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I am planning on having my 2 yr old daughter at my homebirth. I was just wondering if anyone is going to have their kids at the birth, or if you have tried it, and are not this time around. I also will not have back up childcare besides my husband, and midwife assistant.
I am going to have my DD in charge of the water tub.
 

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I'm not planning on it. I think it depends on the maturity of the child. My 2 y/o dd wouldn't handle it well, I don't think. When my midwife died earlier in my pregnancy, she got really upset seeing Mommy crying. So, my mom (who also doesn't need to be present!) will be keeping dd either in dd's room at the other end of the house (in early labor) so she can come check on me periodically or later in labor outside or at Mom and Dad's (just up the road).
At least that's the plan.
 

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DDC crashing to say that I am having both of my kids (ages then will be 2 1/2 and 4 1/2... wow) at the birth. Or, planning to. I've attended births where the children have been there and they are generally unfazed. My oldest is super interested in birth and (since I have a collection of videos for my doula library) has seen Birth As We Know It, The Business of Being Born, I Watched My Baby Brother Being Born, and countless other videos on youtube. He actually requests to watch them! Ha!
Anyways, my advice would be to watch a few on youtube with your daughter and see how she reacts. Most of the time, children are completely fine with being at the birth. But it is important to have someone there other than your DP to make sure that if she's not okay, someone can take her elsewhere. I plan on having both my sisters (as well as my DH) there... one for each kid, if necessary.
 

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I think we will play it by ear. I don't want him to be denied entry if he wants to come in and I am planning on preparing him for what will happen and the sounds mommy will make and that I am not sad or hurting. I do however think it will be difficult for him. He was very concerned about what was going on during the ultrasound and that is nothing compared to birth.

We will have someone else here though in case he can't handle it or if I don't want him there. Either my mom will be here (she is flying in after my EDD but I may go late) or we will call SIL who lives close by.

When I labored with him I wanted no one around including DH. I spent until 7-8 cm completely alone except for when I had my puking moment while standing in the shower. I needed someone to be in the room in case I fell. But other than that no one got near me until I decided it was time to go to the hospital. Since we will be at home this time I am not sure when I will want people around.
 

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Currently I'm planning on having DH stay with DD at the beginning (in case she just needs anything) but then I'm planning on letting her go play at a neighbors house, very close by. I just don't want to be worrying about her while in labor. (concerned whether she feels ignored, is fed.. etc.)
 

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He was very concerned about what was going on during the ultrasound and that is nothing compared to birth.
Just fyi, my son is terrified of ultrasound pictures/ videos, yet is totally unfazed with birth. Maybe try showing him some birth videos (if the possibility of having him there is an option), and gauge his reaction?
 

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I'm not entirely decided, but I'm inclined *not* to have them there (they'll be 4.5 and 2.75 in August). I think it's a fine choice to make, but I've attended a handful of home births with children present in the last year-or-so that I've been apprenticing, and here's what I've noticed:
First of all, and the biggest thing (for me), is that kids just often couldn't care less--especially at that age. In my (admittedly limited) experience, 2-year-olds are not particularly frightened by mom making noises, et cetera (although they are occasionally a little apprehensive, I think, of the fact that there is clearly *something* going on, and maybe some new people, et cetera. But they don't tend to appreciate the "miracle of life" like we might like to imagine they will.
In fact, I feel like I've been at lots of births where mom and dad are like, "Look, honey--it's your little brother/sister!" And the kid just wants to play with the midwife's flashlight or doppler. I haven't seen a two-year-old yet who really seemed to care.
Secondly, it *can* be frightening for some kids. From what I've seen, it's usually the slightly older kids who are frightened--I've seen a couple 4-year-old siblings, and a 6-ish year old niece at a birth, and they were frightened. They are old enough to know moaning and crying means pain, and that pain can mean danger. I know that I've heard my 4-year-old say something about "if you bleed and bleed and bleed and don't stop, you'll die" to my daughter (regarding a papercut, I'll add
). Even minor-to-moderate bleeding looks like an awful lot--especially if you're having a water birth. In those moments after birth, often no one is thinking of explaining things to the toddler/young child in the room (who may or may not understand, anyway)--even if everything is going perfectly, the midwife is likely assessing the baby (even if just visually and from a reasonable distance), watching the mother for excessive bleeding, preparing for the birth of the placenta...whatever. Mom and dad are probably sort of wrapped up in seeing their new baby. I think it has the potential to be scary to an older child or a particularly emotionally in-tune toddler.
And, thirdly, sometimes kids can sort of cause stress to the mother or be a distraction/"get in the way" (for lack of a better word). I was at a birth recently where the almost-3-year-old kept taking off out the back door and running out into the (unfenced) yard. It was a nice, but chilly, March day, and he wanted to play outside. It was just me, my preceptor, and mom and dad there. The baby was born easily, but mom suffered a postpartum hemorrhage that eventually required transport. So as mom is bleeding in the living room and the midwife and I are trying to handle *that,* dad is outside in the chilly air with the 30-minute-old baby, chasing down the toddler. When mom wants to get up to go to the bathroom, her husband and the midwife are helping her and I'm holding the newborn--and the toddler is back out in the backyard. They eventually called someone to come be with their toddler (but only as we were calling an ambulance to take mom to the hospital). We really, at that time, all needed to be focussed on the mother and baby, and we couldn't because the toddler was putting himself in danger.

So while I totally, totally *GET* the feeling that you want your whole family together at that time (and, perhaps, the fear that it will be confusing/traumatic for your toddler to come home and the baby just "be there" when it wasn't there when he/she left), I am personally leaning towards having my kids leave the house with family when I'm in labor, and calling them to bring them back as soon as the baby is born and I'm sort of settled. But I totally get why people might choose to have them there, and I think that's a fine choice.

HOWEVER, I would really strongly advise you to find, if you can, someone to be at the birth *just* for your child/children. It alleviates a LOT (all, really) of the problems I mentioned, I think. If your child is afraid (or just disinterested) there is someone there who can take her out of the room and do something different with her. If he is running out the back door, or getting into something in the next room, there is someone there whose JOB it is to handle the situation and keep him safe. And in the unlikely event that your birth or postpartum becomes complicated in one way or another, you're not scrambling to find care for her so you can get the care you need.

That will be $.02, please!
 

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Yeah, I'm planning on it. My kids are 3 and 4. My husband and I live with a rommate who can possibly take care of the kids when I am in labor, though I do want them to be there when the baby is actually born. I have a friend coming to help me out as well, and she can always support me while my husband deals with them. I also have two midwives who will be there too.

I should add that my kids are super exicted about their "baby sister Emma in mama's belly!" and loved being at the ultrasound. They have seen many birth videos and really get excited watching them.
 

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Make sure to have someone on standby to take the kid(s) if necessary. If (god forbid) you need to transfer for an emergency I'm not sure the kids will be allowed to join you so that means your H will have to care for them.

We planned on having DS1 present at DS2's birth (he was 4.5 when his brother was born) but at the last minute I decided against it. I couldn't fully relax with Ds there because I was worried about his care. He was there for the first hour or so then my mom came over and took him out for a few hours and brought him back a little bit after the baby was born.

This time around I plan on having my mom or MIL come over to care for the boys (unless it is the middle of the night). I'm not against having the kids there but want the option of having them leave if I feel it necessary.
 

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I plan on having my 5 year old son in my home with an extra person to entertain him. He's a very spacial and objective child and I feel can understand the difference of labor pain and other pain. I've explained to him many times that it will seem like it's hurting me, but that it's normal to get the baby out. He's watched several birth videos to help him prepare. I have also been doing hypno-birthing practice, so the goal is for everything to stay very relaxed.

I really think it depends on your child. It doesn't matter to most 2 year old's, but an older child may either be interested or scared. You'll have to use your good judgment.
 

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Redpajama, thank you so much for the insight and the great story. I checked out your blog and I'm so impressed, you have a lot of amazing experience! I think you'll make a wonderful midwife.

I've been avoiding the issue of what to do with DD during the birth. She'll only be 19 months old. She's fine to be home in early labor, but once I'm active I'll need my space and certainly won't have energy to devote to her. Judging by her birth, that will necessitate ~seven hours of her being somewhere else. To date, she's never been away from me for longer than maybe two hours. And she has no other consistent caregiver besides me. That includes Daddy.

I can't handle anybody at my births besides him and the midwife (who was only here for about three hours of labor last time), especially in our 800 sf apartment. Otherwise I could have a doula, or my fifteen-year old sister who lives four hours away and is coming to help from the birth until school starts. But I'm very solitary and quiet in labor and just couldn't handle other presences. Even while pushing all over my apartment last time, I still had a towel wrapped around me ...occasionally... and other cursory nods to decorum. I think any superfluous people would distract me and prolong things. Plus, I'm kind of superstitious and like to turn off my phone when labor starts so people don't know until the baby's out.

Realistically, I'm hoping my downstairs neighbor and her 3-year old will be home and able to take care of Nikita with DB on call to check on them. They go out of town frequently, so I guess I need to talk this over with her pretty soon.
 

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My son will be 5. We're planning on having him at the free-standing birth center with us. The mw liked the idea, but said definitely bring an extra person besides dp to be there for him. I am not excited about the idea of having my mother present at the birth because she makes me so irrational, but I may have to give so that ds can also be there. I may think about who else I could count on to serve in that role.

I'm expecting a quick one this time around, so it'll all depend on whether or not people answer their phones. Last time around I called 3 or 4 people when I was in labor and no one answered! By the time they called me back they had missed it all.
 

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Susan, thanks for your feedback and experience on this. I was just thinking, someone should have locked the back door and put on a movie for that toddler! That is sad that the baby had to have a hard first moment bc there was no one to watch their son.

We are planning on having ds there, if he wants to be. He will be 4 1/2, and has seen just about birth video on youtube, and I love his reactions. I honestly think he is going to be fine, and appreciate more when he is older.

But, I would never take the chance of him being traumatized (and yes, birth is sometimes VERY traumatic, like seeing your mother almost bleed out, or hearing her scream as the baby is making its way through her pelvis). My mom will be there to take care of Elijah, plus we have his day care teacher as a back up. I think we will talk to friends as well and have a couple more people on call just in case.

I also want to make sure I feel okay with screaming or moaning or whatever. And I don't want to have to worry about my son being board, either. And I don't want to have to put on a movie while his little sister is being born. So, he will get grandma and grandma will spoil him either way.
 

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I'm hoping that both my kids (will be 5 & 3) will be "around". It's not important to me for them to be in the room at the moment the baby comes out or anything; however, it is VERY important to me for them not to be "taken away" and come home to a baby out of mama's belly.

That said, I'm definitely of the "there needs to be someone there for them" school of thought. DS1 was around for DS2's birth - my mom was his care provider. I don't want to do that this time mostly because DS2's labor was 6.5 hours and I think it would have been a lot shorter had I not been waiting for my mo to arrive (4 hour drive). I need to wait until closer to the time to figure out who will be the care provider for the kids - it depends on who is working/in school/has back up for their own kids' care etc. But we have a few close people I'd be willing to ask as needed. I know how lucky this makes me!

DS1 is totally unphased by bodily functions of any kind, or me in pain. DS2 is a bit more sensitive; I can imagine him being upset by what goes on at birth and I should start watching videos and stuff with him soon. But if he needs to get away from the intensity of it that's okay with me - I just don't want to send him away (and don't anticipate needing to, based on my knowledge of how I have labored before - I don't need a huge amount of privacy - or at least, not more than is reasonably easy to assure at a homebirth.)
 

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Wow, RedPajama, you really have me thinking now. Thanks for sharing your experience.

I think I am sticking with my change of plans....my inlaws live about 10 minutes from us and my original plan was to have ds stay with them. But then I read so many wonderful homebirth stories in the homebirth forum here, with the toddlers/older children being present, and it made me really want to include ds in the birth, so that he wouldn't have that feeling of "hey, there was no baby here when I left, what's going on?" I'm planning on getting some books to prepare him, and probably have him watch some Youtube videos too. He will be 3 years and 3 months on my due date, and I really think that if I take time to prepare him for the birth and he knows what to expect, he'll be fine. Also, I may have too many people here to keep an eye on him, and he loves all of them. I may have jumped the gun a bit and invited one too many, before I realized my sister might be here, so...
I'm just kinda playing that by ear. I'm hoping that it'll be during the day and he'll just want to be outside anyway, in which case he'll have a choice of who he wants to go outside with.
 

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I'm hoping that both my kids (will be 5 & 3) will be "around". It's not important to me for them to be in the room at the moment the baby comes out or anything; however, it is VERY important to me for them not to be "taken away" and come home to a baby out of mama's belly.

I feel the same way.
 

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Both of mine will be welcome. Almost 5 and 3 yr old. My MIL will also leave with them if they want. UNLESS it is the middle of the night.
 

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When we were planning the hbac I was pretty sure we'd have someone take the girls.

Four year old dd1 is very sensitive and will be upset for hours at the slightest "ouchie" or "oopsie". She may "know" that everything is ok and will be ok, but emotionally charged scenes just wipe her out. And almost two year old DD2 is very physically attached to me... if I am physically present then she needs me to be focused on her. I wont be able to do that during the birth and I wont be able to focus on my birth needs with a two year old screaming and screaming and screaming!

Since it looks like I'll be going with a hospital birth after all it's not as much of a concern, but during the homebirth planning we eventually decided that my MIL would take the girls out in a camper van type vehicle so that they could be nearby but seperate, and they'd come back an hour or two after the birth when everything was cleaned up and ready for "invaders".
 

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Not us. As much as my daughter wants to be there, I've told her she'll need to sleep through it if it's a night birth and haven't mentioned other options.

She asks a million questions, and while she's seen tons of birth films and youtube videos about birth, I would be very annoyed at a time when I need to go inward to be asked all of these questions, one after the other. I know if she was there I would end up yelling at her to leave me alone. She wouldn't understand that, so I think it's better not to have her there. I may tape the birth, and if that happens, then she can watch it later if she wants, but...no, she won't be present.
 

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If ds wants to be here, and is here, then that's fine with me and his godmother will come over and be his "support" person and be around to take him out of the house if he wants to leave. I won't be waking him up if it's a night birth and I won't have anyone go and pull him out of school if I deliver after school starts.
 
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