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Is anybody deciding that they are not going to have an ultrasound during their pregnancy? I am 33, and I am so far having a healthy, low-risk pregnancy. This is my first time being pregnant and I do not have a history of miscarraige.<br><br>
Anyway, I have an early ultrasound scheduled, just to ease my own anxieties about the pregnancy, and am thinking of cancelling it. I also read an article from Mothering that got me thinking: <a href="http://www.mothering.com/articles/pregnancy_birth/birth_preparation/ultrasound-risks.html" target="_blank">http://www.mothering.com/articles/pr...und-risks.html</a><br><br>
I guess I am curious as to how other women are approaching this issue - or if other women are struggling with this at all.<br><br>
I know that all the research indicates that ultrasound is safe, but what about the theoretical risks and ethical concerns? By ethical concern, I guess I wonder - Is is okay to go for an early ultrasound when I have all indications of a healthy pregnancy, just so I can have an estimate of due date and confirmation that all is okay? Or, on the flip side, is it unethical to do this just for me, and therefore exposing my baby to the "theoretical risks" of ultrasound. By not having an ultrasound, am I promoting the healthiest possible womb environment for my little wee one?<br><br>
So, these are some of my ethical (philisophical??) musings regarding ultrasound.<br><br>
I'd love to hear the thoughts of the wise women on this board, and please know that by asking these questions, it is not my intention to judge anyone on their decision to have an ultrasound. Part of me thinks I am making this way more complicated than it needs to be and to just let go, and enjoy. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/smile.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="smile">
 

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Well, I have 3 DDs 14,7,&2. All HBs. I had 1u/s with #1 to check my dates(I wasn't to in tune with my body then). With #2 I didn't have any and even asked my mw to only use the doppler as minimally as possible. I was having a good healthy pregnancy, but LO hated the doppler and we couldn't hear her heart beat until 20wks. It was very obviously bothersome to the baby, she was my easiest labor of the 3. In between my 2nd and third I had severe cervical dysplasia that resulted in a conization of my cervix. So when I got pregnant with #3 my mw had me go to have 3 or 4 over the course of my pregnancy. They were just supposed to check cervical length, but on the 2nd one they had tp do a full workup baby and all. I felt as though that was too invasive for me and my baby. We weren't having any problems hearing her heartbeat and everything else was great too. So I guess for me personally I would only have u/s if it was truly medically necessary, and even then as little as possible.
 

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We don't do u/s without medical reason. Period. This includes doppler. We didn't do any with dd except to allow doppler in labor. We haven't done any with this one.<br><br>
They are NOT proven safe. Not so long ago moms were routinely x-rayed in pregnancy.<br><br>
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<img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/img/vbsmilies/smilies/yeahthat.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="yeah that">: In your shoes, OP, I wouldn't. I did have one to rule out placental issues, with a VBA4C the benefits to catching that, IMO, outweigh the risks. Were it NOT for that I wouldn't. I also have declined doppler. (Did allow it twice, with a clear reason in mind.) I wouldn't even consider any of it without a genuine need, not worth it...<br><br>
It's important though to note that there is NO proof they are safe. MDs "saying so" is just not good enough.
 

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I didn't have one with my first and really didn't need to have the ones I had with each subsequent pregnancy.<br><br>
The only good argument I've heard is that if you have an OB or even a CNM at a hospital, it is beneficial to have a more pinpointed due date that you get from the early ultrasound. In practices that routinely do this, there are way less interventions due to "overdue" babies. Of course, if your practitioner is not going to make a big deal about being overdue anyway, then I don't really see the benefit.<br><br>
I had a level II ultrasound around 22 weeks with this one and the previous just for my own piece of mind. I wouldn't make any medical argument for having it.
 

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I did not have an ultrasound with my son and we won't be having an ultrasound with this child either.<br><br>
At first, my concerns were purely safety-related, but as time as gone on, I feel there is another side to it - the best term I can think of is "spiritual." I have come to have a problem with the idea of 'invading' the baby's space, at least FOR ME, and so even if we could easily have one, and there were no safety concerns whatsoever, I don't think we still would.
 

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I did not have one with my ds, and will not have one with this pregnancy either. There is no legit medical reason for me, and I just do not feel there would be any point except to find out the gender. My mother never ever had one, even when she was 42 and pregnant with my sister. She did not have any tests, just like all women not too many years ago. It bothers me as well that it is so routine when there is no proven safety.<br><br>
For some reason with this second pregnancy I was a little nervous at first and considered one, but I have worked through that feeling and fear and now feel fine. If you are having doubts/fears about your pregnancy/baby, that is something to really look at and address and see what is behind it. Have a great pregnancy whatever you choose! <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/smile.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="smile"> Mary
 

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I did not have one with either of my pregnancies, and my first pregnancy we didn't use doppler either.<br><br>
Due to apparent pregnancy complications with the 2nd pregnancy, I had doppler used, but no u/s.
 

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I didn't have one with DD2, and won't with other pg's either.
 

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We're not getting one unless the midwife thinks there's an indication that u/s would help diagnose and we're declining doppler use completely. It's a little annoying knowing I won't be able to hear that reassuring hb until 18/20 wks and that I may have to get out of comfortable positions to use the fetoscope during labor, but from everything I've read it seems worth it to me.<br><br>
I do have a bit of ethical/philosophical reasoning too in that I'm trusting my body to grow a healthy baby unless proven otherwise, just like I'm trusting my body to give birth normally unless proven otherwise.
 

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Haven't read other comments, but I'm sure someone else has pulled this statement out -- nope, research on ultrasounds hasn't shown it to be safe, and in fact, it has shown that is can affect the unborn child. So, that makes this a pretty easy decision for me, if there is nothing that would justify it, then I won't risk it. Now, I'm not so opposed that I'd skip it if it were medically indicated, but I don't image that situation coming up in my low-risk pregnancy.
 

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I didn't do it with my first child and don't plan on doing it with this pregnancy. I am with many of the others here...I just feel like if the reason for the u/s is unwarranted, then there is clearly no reason for it. The whole use of the routine u/s, to me, is an abuse. It would surely not be such common practice if it weren't for the paranoid nature of our medicalized society.
 

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we have used doppler twice to hear the heartbeat but i am going to request my midwife use a fetoscope or just go by fetal kick counts, which i have read are supposed to be just as good of an indicator of a healthy baby fwiw, for the remainder of my pregnancy. (so i'm hoping the baby quits facing the placenta soon so i can actually feel the kicks. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/lol.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="lol">) i'm not planning on getting an ultrasound but i have decided to not completely rule out having one between 32 and 35 weeks if my intuition tells me that i need one.
 

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I am not having a routine ultrasound, b/c a routine US is not evidence based. It doesn't improve baby's outcomes. Also, I think often they find things that are more worrisome than helpful. If there is a problem with the baby, then I'll deal with it after the birth.<br><br>
I have had two short ultrasounds though. I am a L&D RN, and we got a new US machine when I was 7 wks pg. I was dying to see the baby's hb so one of the Dr's did an US for me. I also asked her to do another one at 15 wks b/c I was/am quite large. I started wondering ab twins. During that US, I found out my placenta is posterior and on the rt (I felt implantation for a few days and was wondering if it was on the rt where I had felt it) and there is a four chamber heart - and the femur measured 15 wks. It took less than 3 min.
 

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I had 3 with my 1st pg. The first to determine dates, the second and third were routine. The Dr told me to do them so I did them. No questions asked.<br><br>
My 2nd pg I had one u/s. It was around week 35/36 to see the placenta. I requested it as I wanted to know that the placenta was not over my scar.<br><br>
I may do the same with this pg....have one late in pg to see placenta placement. I realize that is my hang-up with having a previous c-section. It gives me peace of mind to know the placenta is not near the scar.
 

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I've had 2 m/c and 2 healthy pregnancies and never had an u/s. Personally I just don't trust them. My basic approach to health care is that I don't undergo tests or take medication that isn't medically necessary because all med interventions have some type of risk. During my pregnancies, I've seen 3 different OBs and 2 different midwives. When asked whether the u/s is "medically necessary", every single one said that it was not (in my case anyway).<br><br>
Some pro-u/s drs will tell you that the large scale randomized studies haven't verified that u/s can be harmful. To my knowledge, this is true. However, there have been dozens of small scale research studies showing that it is likely to be harmful. The problem is that the only people who have the $$ to fund these huge med studies are med equipment or pharmaceutical companies. Of course, their tests are designed to show how safe their products are and not an attempt to verify what smaller studies have shown.<br><br>
Most mothers who've had u/s will tell you that their babies became very active and tried to get away from the u/s machine. Just yesterday I was watching "In the Womb" by National Geographic which uses a lot of 4D u/s technology. Though they kept emphasizing how safe it is, they did comment that babies in utero typically grimace and wince when they use the 4D u/s machine.<br><br>
I'm not saying that u/s doesn't have it's place ever, but it's not something I feel comfortable with unless there is good reason. If it's not medically necessary, I prefer to skip it.
 

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I've had one u/s at 12 weeks, to put my mind at ease about the heartbeat (bad experience w/ a friend's miscarriage that really scared me), and confirm the dating and placenta position.<br><br>
I won't get another unless it's medically necessary, but I can certainly understand the desire to peek in at the baby. My next "back-up" midwife appt is tomorrow, and I know she'll offer a u/s. I need to remain strong in my beliefs and convictions and refuse, but I really would love to see the baby again.<br><br>
As for Doppler - I've had it done in three appts. so far, and I'm not sure about any of the research. Honestly, I haven't been able to find much about the effects of it on the baby. If anyone has a good source, please post it or pm me. As soon as the baby can be heard by fetoscope, I'll switch to that, but right now, making sure the heart is still going strong is really important to me.
 

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I had 4-5 with my dd, before I knew any better and before I realized I could decline them. With next baby, I will have none- unless absolutely necessary.
 

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I did not have an ultrasound with my daughter (a homebirth) and don't plan to with any future children, unless there is an indication that something is seriously wrong and needs to be checked out. There is a difference of opinion on the safety of this technology, especially in early pregnancy:<br><br><a href="http://www.unhinderedliving.com/pultra.html" target="_blank">http://www.unhinderedliving.com/pultra.html</a>
 

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I'm on the other side of the spectrum. I will ALWAYS have an ultrasound with all my children. My son was born with a heart defect that wasn't compatible with life unless intervention happened quickly after birth. Because of our level II ultrasound, they caught his heart defect. We have no family history, or had any reason to believe our first child would have a heart defect. Soon after he was born, he was given life saving drugs to keep his PDA open. If his PDA had closed soon after his birth without these drugs, he would have died right then.<br>
For all of my children in the future, I will have level II ultrasounds since the risk of heart defects increases in subsequent children. If I hadn't had an ultrasound, my son may not have survived the first night.
 
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