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AP older kids - what to say

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Hello


Our two older boys are 8 & 7. We've never left them.

My MIL has said two things to me that unfortunately I didn't have any response for, and am afraid of hearing them again and being equally mute.

1. "All our friends and my sisters get to keep their grandchildren."

2. "I feel like you don't trust me."

What is a soothing but solid response to these?
Any helpful input is deeply appreciated!
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ooops! sorry!

"attachment parenting" It seemed like everyone on this site is familiar with the ap concept so I thought it was best to frame my question within that.

Frankly we just believe that our kids belong with us.

We visit my in-laws for days once every month, but the "leave them with us" thing always comes up for some reason.
Sorry I don't have any advice for you. Is there a reason you don't want to leave them? They might enjoy it. My Dd and Ds are both securely attatched to dh and I, but they do LOVE spending the night at grandma's house sometimes. They have a blast, and dh and I have some quality time together along with our littlest Dd. Sure, I miss them while they're away, but I know they are having fun, so that keeps me happy. Just a thought.
You need to do what you're comfortable with. Many children are ready to spend the night at grandma's when they're 4 or 5 years old. Others won't be ready until they're 12 or older.

Of course, if you truly don't trust your MIL for one reason or another, it's reasonable to NEVER allow your child to be there overnight.

If this isn't the case, then you might want to examine your own reasons for not leaving your children with their grandparents, and try to see things from your children's points of view. I personally believe that AP means adapting as our children grow, and doing things based on their level of readiness. If they're not ready to be away from you yet, then simply explain to your MIL that they're not ready yet!
When she says leave them with them does she mean for an afternoon, overnight, week... what is it?
My dd is 6 and has not spent the night away from us and won't until she is ready. We have left her with my parents for a few hours on occasion and it was fine. I have never left her with dh's parents because I don't really trust them and their houses are chaos. Maybe when dd is older... maybe.

You could just say that you love visiting as a family and don't leave your kids with anyone at all yet- if it isn't just them- because you feel they aren't ready.
If you don't want them to stay with the grandparents because you think this somehow "volates the rules of AP", you may be a little confused.

At your children's ages staying with grandparents even overnight or for a few days is perfectly appropriate and does not lessen your attachment.

If you truly don't trust the in-laws or your ds's are really not ready that is different and it is appropriate to decide not to leave the kids with them yet.
My MIL has, sorry to put it so bluntly in this gentle place, a bottom-of-the-bell-curve IQ and EQ, is blessed with an ungovernable temper and generally represents a menace to children. Oh yeah, and she absolutely can't square with our vegetarianism. I wouldn't put a young werewolf into her care, nevermind my own little treasures!!! (Well, the werewolf would at least enjoy getting meat shoved into every possible dish....)

I tell her that when we have free time we want to spend it with our children, and we can visit her with them, but we aren't going to leave the kids behind. Our life is the kids' life too and we don't need to rid ourselves of them. She can like it or not, but that's not my problem, it's hers. Kwim?
I would also question "Why?"

If your children don't want to, you can be upfront with that. "They are not ready to be away from us overnight yet."

If you feel that she is not an acceptable person to be in charge of your children, you'll need to deal with that.

My kids spend the night w/the inlaws (they are 4.5 & 7) and, in fact, will go to two night grandparent camp for the second time this summer. They love it and I totally trust them. When they are older, and can easily sleep by themselves I would *consider* letting them stay with my parents, but for now they don't, so I wouldn't let it happen.
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Is there reason not to trust her? What do your children think? My children didn't stay overnight with my mother until they were about 4, that is HER choice as she doesn't feel she can handle a baby or toddler overnight. That is fine by me.
My FIL has never kept the children because he's an alcoholic (I don't think he'd WANT to keep them anyways), but my dad and stepmom have never kept the kids because my stepmom is a brutal bully.


I agree that AP doesn't mean that they have to be with you constantly until they're adults, will you not let them stay away from home at 16? 17? You have to conform with the age.
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We are ap parents also. The ILs wanted to have dd for the SUMMER starting when she was about 4. They were shocked we said no - they live in another state. They ask every year (Leah is 7.5 now) and I ask Leah, she says "will you be there? We say no, she says thanks, but no thanks.

Bottom line? I have no reason to feel guilty if Leah doesn't want to go. If/when she decides to try it, then I can deal with how I feel about it. The ILs are great - no worries about how they would care for her.

Do what is right for you and yours!
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"I personally believe that AP means adapting as our children grow, and doing things based on their level of readiness." Ruthla

I totally agree with this. My younger children are 8 and almost 7 and they love to spend time with my parents. They spend the night probably once a month with them. But,and this is a *big* but,my parents are wonderful and very supportive of our parenting choices. That makes all the difference in the world. I think grandparents are so very important in a child's life.
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Ruthla, as always, you rock!


My oldest is 7 and is not ready to spend the night anywhere, so that solves that problem. It will become a problem when he is ready because I do *not* trust my IL's. But I'll cross that bridge when I come to it.

I hope you can find the answers for your family!
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We missed the mark here.
Firstly, thank you all for your input.


Actually I do not label myself as AP. I am sorry for any confusion about that. See from posts I've read referencing AP, it seems that keeping your children with you is a major part of it, so my intention was to attract those sorts of parents who may have faced the same uncomfortable situation, and therefore have helpful input on the topic.

To those who raised the point; I am fully aware of my feelings and responsibilities on the issue, my children are not suffering from this in the least.

To the question of others; she means for days or a couple of weeks. No it isn't just her, actually she is quite qualified. We do not, and have never left them in the care of anyone else since they were conceived.
It is simply my personal veiw of parenting. They have excellent quality time with their grandparents when we visit, we just simply do not leave them there.

What I was hoping for is suggestions for tactful responses to her feelings. I simply point out that I feel my children belong with me, but I think it is very difficult for her to grasp, having parented in a much different way with her kids "turning out alright", if you take my meaning. I was hoping for advice on a pleasant way to deal with these comments if they arise again in the future.

I actually tend to get a bit irked over it sometimes. She has plenty of one on one time with each of them and the baby when we visit, but she realy wants us to leave them. I just don't get it. Her recent thing is wanting to take them for walks alone, knowing full well that if they leave the house I escort them and assume full responsibilty for their well-being. She KNOWS this. Though I do follow behind at a distance and let them walk together of course. I am highly protective of my children, but I do make every effort not to "hover" if you follow me.
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Well, now that you've explained, I could see how she thinks you don't trust her, especially if you don't let her take them for walks without your supervision. When you say you "assume full responsibility for their their well being" it sounds like you don't think anyone else can share in that responsibility. Of course, that's your decision.

So I guess all I can say is perhaps tell her what you've said here. It's thoughtful and clear. But it may not change how she feels about the situation.

If I was in this situation, I may think about the bigger impact my choice was having on the relationships in my family and perhaps show my MIL I do trust her by allowing her to take the kids on walks or to the playground or whatever. I would see it as a little to give in order to give my children's grandmother some happiness and to bring us closer. Just my .02.
Your ds is 8 and you don't let him take a walk with a grandparent you trust alone? And not because of his feelings or concerns, but because of yours?

You are not going to find many parents, even here, who agree with this. Your MIL parented in a different way? I think almost everyone parents is a different way.

I think that this is not a helathy form of attachment on your part. It sounds like you are terrified of the world and are engaging in some "magical thinking" about your need to always have your children in your sight outside . I am not trying to be rude or snarky, but I really think that you need to talk to someone professionally about this,

I think that this is sort of sad for your kids. Children deserve to form bonds with loving trusted relatives other than their parents. While I don't think that an overnight is absolutely necessary an hour or so of true alone time (without mama being on their heels) is.

What are you telling your child about people by doing this?

At what age will you allow your child to be alone with a loving trusted grandparent?
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aulait (love the name) what do your kids think of this? Do they know grandma wants to have them overnight? Have they been asked what they think of the idea?
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Originally Posted by maya44
Your ds is 8 and you don't let him take a walk with a grandparent you trust alone? And not because of his feelings or concerns, but because of yours?

You are not going to find many parents, even here, who agree with this. Your MIL parented in a different way? I think almost everyone parents is a different way.

I think that this is not a helathy form of attachment on your part. It sounds like you are terrified of the world and are engaging in some "magical thinking" about your need to always have your children in your sight outside . I am not trying to be rude or snarky, but I really think that you need to talk to someone professionally about this,

I think that this is sort of sad for your kids. Children deserve to form bonds with loving trusted relatives other than their parents. While I don't think that an overnight is absolutely necessary an hour or so of true alone time (without mama being on their heels) is.

What are you telling your child about people by doing this?

At what age will you allow your child to be alone with a loving trusted grandparent?
ITA with maya
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Originally Posted by aulait
Actually I do not label myself as AP. I am sorry for any confusion about that. See from posts I've read referencing AP, it seems that keeping your children with you is a major part of it, so my intention was to attract those sorts of parents who may have faced the same uncomfortable situation, and therefore have helpful input on the topic.
I consider keeping your children with you until THEY are ready to spend time apart to be part of AP. When my children were very small they were not left with other people. As they got older they slowly spent more and more time away from me. Now, they go to friend's houses, spend the night with grandparents occasionally, go to school, etc... They know we (DP & I) are always here for them and they can explore and expand their world at their pace.

How do your children feel about this? Do they do other things on their own (lessons, school, playdates, etc...) or are you with them all the time? Is that what they are comfortable with or do they want to be left with their grandparents?
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