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I heard about this yesterday on Democracy Now!. It sure seems like the recruiters are, shall we say, out of control?<br><br><a href="http://www.wftv.com/news/4515943/detail.html" target="_blank">http://www.wftv.com/news/4515943/detail.html</a><br><br>
I did a google search to find an articlew about his, b/c I know some people would prefer a source other than DN! And, i that search, I also turned up this:<br><br><a href="http://www.notinourname.net/youth/recruiter-sex-assult-1mar05.htm" target="_blank">http://www.notinourname.net/youth/re...ult-1mar05.htm</a><br><div style="margin:20px;margin-top:5px;">
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<table border="0" cellpadding="6" cellspacing="0" width="99%"><tr><td class="alt2" style="border:1px inset;">Indiana National Guard Sgt. Eric P. Vetesy, 36, Westfield, was jailed Monday, accused of sexually assaulting six female recruits -- most of them Noblesville High School students -- he met during his 18 months as a full-time recruiter. Hamilton County investigators said Monday he is accused of raping at least one recruit.<br><br>
Nationwide, military recruiters reportedly have been linked to at least a half-dozen sexual assaults during the past few years, since the creation of the federal No Child Left Behind Act. This broad education law requires, among other things, that high schools give military recruiters greater access to students</td>
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Just in case anyone wants to claim that the incident in Florida was an isolated case. It wasn't.
 

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<img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/censored.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="censored">:<br><br>
Just so sad. I have no words.
 

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Disturbing yes, but unfortunately just because these men and women are in the military doesn't mean they are perfect. I hate that so many people think that because someone is in the military means they are more trustworthy than other citizens. I see it on base out here a lot. V. frustrating.<br><br>
Being a recruiter doesn't require any special skills or training (at least not in the Navy). With access to children, they should be going through some sort of screening process, anything would be better than the whole nothing they got going on now.
 

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How horrible!<br><br>
Sadie, given the information you quoted here, we cannot pass judgement as whether recruiters are getting out of control or not:<br><br><div style="margin:20px;margin-top:5px;">
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<table border="0" cellpadding="6" cellspacing="0" width="99%"><tr><td class="alt2" style="border:1px inset;">Nationwide, military recruiters reportedly have been linked to at least a half-dozen sexual assaults during the past few years, since the creation of the federal No Child Left Behind Act. This broad education law requires, among other things, that high schools give military recruiters greater access to students.</td>
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How many total sexual assualt have there been during the "past few years?" Are military recruiters among the top offenders? How about once the numbers normalized for access to children (For example, if 2 teachers sexually assaulted kids and one recruiter did, recruiters would still be the "bigger offenders")? What is the conviction rate for recruiters vs non-recruiters (are there more false alarms?)? Even better (and unknowable)--how many of them are actually guilty when compared to other accused sexual predators? Have these numbers changed at all since the passage of the No Child Left Behind Act?<br><br>
Statements like this piss me off--especially when they are used in a way that generall supports my point of me. Military Recruiters, as far as I can tell, really do have no scruples. Sexual assualt--especially on kids, and super-especially on kids over whom you have some amount of power is horrible. The "Let No Child Get Too Far Ahead" act is pure devilry. But it is irresponsible for the author of this article to make a statement--design specifically do draw us to the conclusion that "recruiters are getting out of hand"--without giving us sufficient facts to back it up. It makes me think that the facts don't back it up--if they did, they would print those facts to support their implication.
 

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Of course recruiters are getting out of hand, it's the nature of the business. Can press gangs be far behind? <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/irked.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="irked">:
 

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When you put together the rapes with all of the other recruiter misconduct, which was at a serious enough level that the military called on all recruiters to "stand down" last Friday for re-training, that to me means out of hand. I was thinking of all the different elements, not just the ones connected to these particular instances.<br><br>
Hmmm, it is a situation, I think, where the situation is more severe because of the powerful positio of the recruiters. Abuse of power gets my back up.
 
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