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"DEAR AMY: You have run some letters from people commenting on breast-feeding and how some breast-feeders lack discretion.<br><br>
I agree wholeheartedly.<br><br>
I work in a small community hospital in the maternity and newborn area. Rooms are designed with window blinds, curtains and doors for the privacy of all. Often mothers don't close these while breast-feeding, and any unsuspecting soul who might walk in can get an eyeful.<br><br>
Just because the woman "doesn't mind" someone seeing her topless, doesn't mean anyone would like to look. How would she like her husband or teenage son to walk past and see full frontal? Flash people like that on the street, and you would get arrested.<br><br>
As for the old and tired excuse that it is "nature's way" to breast-feed, so are other bodily functions, but you wouldn't necessarily perform them in front of strangers. How about a little privacy for everyone?<br><br>
Cover up! We know you're a good mother without the "peep show."<br>
-Seen it All and Then Some<br><br>
DEAR "SEEN IT ALL": It's official. I have now heard everything. You're criticizing women for breast-feeding their babies-in a maternity ward?<br><br>
I'll venture a guess that men and boys who are visiting women on maternity wards and see women breast-feeding might get a proper education about what mothers do to feed their babies. I'll venture another guess that no man or child has ever been traumatized by such a sight. It's only a "peep show" if you make it one.<br><br>
From the mountain of mail I have received on this topic, one would think that there is some sort of epidemic of public breast-feeding; and yet, because a recent study by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention shows that only 14 percent of American women nurse their children, I'm wondering where these women are congregating. I can't remember the last time that I saw a woman nursing her baby in public.<br><br>
Hmmm. Maybe I just don't notice. Maybe you shouldn't either."
 

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Hey, cool!<br><br>
I think she should have written "only 14 percent of American women nurse their children to 1 year." The rates of bf newborns are thankfully higher!<br><br>
I love the line "epidemic of public breastfeeding"! :LOL
 

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<b>"As for the old and tired excuse that it is "nature's way" to breast-feed, so are other bodily functions, but you wouldn't necessarily perform them in front of strangers"</b><br><br><br>
OHMYGOD!!!!<br>
Was the author of that letter seriously trying to compare bfing w/ a bowel movement or something?<br>
WTF???????<br><img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/angry.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="angry"><img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/banghead.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="banghead">
 

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Hey, I was just coming here to post about this! My whole family, including my grandma, got in a huge uproar about this letter this morning! We couldn't believe someone could be so perverse. The crazy thing is that the author works in a maternity ward. If you're that upset about seeing breastfeeding, how could you possibly handle seeing a baby come out of a vagina! :LOL
 

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I am getting to like this Amy person though.<img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/orngbiggrin.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="orange big grin"> Wish our paper carried her column.
 

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Her writings have replaced Ann Lander in the Oregonian, which is where I saw this letter.<br>
You can see more info on her column here:<br><a href="http://www.tmsfeatures.com/tmsfeatures/subcategory.jsp?custid=67&catid=1843" target="_blank">http://www.tmsfeatures.com/tmsfeatur...=67&catid=1843</a><br>
It has her E-mail address if you want to write her a letter of support and thanks.
 

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That letter--<img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/img/vbsmilies/smilies/eyesroll.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="roll"><br><br>
As if a newly PP woman should be jumping up and closing doors and curtains and blinds every time baby wants to nurse (which as we know, many newborns need to be more on than off the breast)! Yes, nurse in this little closed booth so heaven forbid you don't shock a man or perverted maternity ward worker!<br><br>
I hope Amy posats a correction about the bfing rates tho. It is up to about 70% initiation in the US and we have worked hard to get it there. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/clap.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="clap"><br><br>
In fact as you can see <a href="http://http//www.kellymom.com/writings/ross-data.html" target="_blank">here</a> , 11% of babies in 2002 were still <i>exclusively</i> bfing at 12 mos! 19.7% partially! <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/bouncy.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="bouncy"><br><br>
Well, I could go on about it should be 100% initiation and 100% bfing some at 12 mos, but that is another topic.
 

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The letter I E-mailed to Amy:<br><br><div style="margin:20px;margin-top:5px;">
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<table border="0" cellpadding="6" cellspacing="0" width="99%"><tr><td class="alt2" style="border:1px inset;">Dear Amy:<br>
I applaud you for the recent letter in your column about breastfeeding. I can't believe that this person is working in the maternity area of the hospital, and is complaining about women breastfeeding! It is also silly to compare breastfeeding with other bodily functions that you wouldn't do in front of other people. (I'm assuming this person is talking about urination, defication, ect.) Those are waste products, while breastmilk is certainly not a waste. It is a normal way to feed a baby, and should be treated as such.<br>
However, I would like to correct you on your statistic from the CDC, in which you stated that only 14% of women in America breastfeed.<br><br>
According to a study by the CDC (<a href="http://www.cdc.gov/breastfeeding/NIS_data/" target="_blank">http://www.cdc.gov/breastfeeding/NIS_data/</a>), breastfeeding rates are highly regional. For instance: In Oregon, 88% of mothers have ever breastfed, compared with only 46% in Louisiana.<br><br>
The official numbers for 2003 were:<br>
Nationally, 68.9% of babies are breastfed at the age of 7 days, dropping to 36.2% at the age of 6 months, and 17.2% at 12 months. The AAP recommends that infants be exclusively breastfed (meaning no solids or liquids other than breastmilk and water) for at least 6 months.<br><br>
The numbers are getting higher each year, and we need to stop seeing breasts as sexual objects that were made only for the ogling of men.<br><br>
Thank you again!<br>
-B</td>
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Kudos to Amy for that response. I cannot believe the writer of that letter! I am so tired of people comparing breastfeeding to other bodily functions. It is so annoying. Sure breastmilk is a liquid that comes from a woman's body but in no way is it the same as other items that come from our other oraphaces (sp?).
 

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YAY Amy!! <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/thumb.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="thumbs up"> Your response was well written, bravofrenchie!
 

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I thought for a second that letter was a satire.<br><br><br>
But you know, when I was nursing my ds as a newborn in the hospital, one nurse suggested to me that I use those slits in the gown for nursing thru instead of unsnapping the shoulder of the gown and dropping it off my shoulder. In my room. With the curtain drawn.<br><br>
I'm like, look lady I just had my UTERUS laying out on my abdomen for all to see and no one complained about that. Now I'm supposed to be shy about showing a little boob????<br><br>
(didn't say that, darn it, just thought it.)
 

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Oh, dear Gourd, please do not tell me that letter writer acted like it would be bad for a woman's HUSBAND to see her breastfeeding their baby! <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/shake.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="shake"><br><br>
I wonder if she also thinks men shouldn't watch their wives give birth? (It destroys marriages, yanno. There just can never be any romance after a man sees THAT. [/dripping sarcasm])<br><br>
Awesome answer tho! Woohoo!
 

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I'm glad she has a brain <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/wink1.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="wink1"> (not the one who wrote in, ofcourse!)
 

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I wonder if she also thinks men shouldn't watch their wives give birth? (It destroys marriages, yanno. There just can never be any romance after a man sees THAT. [/dripping sarcasm])<br></div>
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Yes, my dh saw me being cut up (c-section) and then 3 years later, push a baby out. No romance since then, I beg him, but no, that picture still haunts him, the abdominal muscles, the blood, the uterus. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/img/vbsmilies/smilies/eyesroll.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="roll"><br><br>
Seriously, my dh thinks I'm sexier <i>after</i> I had our kids. And he does NOT leave me alone! (ever! arg!) <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/wink1.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="wink1"><img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/orngbiggrin.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="orange big grin">
 

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:puke To the author of that letter!!!!! Argh, I think s/he may be the long-lost nurse who I had first thing PP. The one that threatened me because I DARED to suggest that ds would better be "warmed" naked at my breast that under some warming light and also told me not to have my support person lay in bed with me b/c she'd squash the baby (I think she thoguht we were lovers??) Yeah, that one got an EARFUL............<br><br>
Great response!! And a weird question............Is that the same Amy from "Ask Amy" at Feminist.com??????????
 

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she did write a good response EXCEPT she should have suggested that the woman needs a new line of work and needs to be as FAR away from new mothers as possible.<br><br>
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<table border="0" cellpadding="6" cellspacing="0" width="99%"><tr><td class="alt2" style="border:1px inset;">The crazy thing is that the author works in a maternity ward. If you're that upset about seeing breastfeeding, how could you possibly handle seeing a baby come out of a vagina!</td>
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Haha, exactly what I was thinking. Maybe she drapes a blanket over the women as they are giving birth, so that they don't offend the male doctors. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/img/vbsmilies/smilies/eyesroll.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="roll"><br><br><div style="margin:20px;margin-top:5px;">
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<table border="0" cellpadding="6" cellspacing="0" width="99%"><tr><td class="alt2" style="border:1px inset;">But you know, when I was nursing my ds as a newborn in the hospital, one nurse suggested to me that I use those slits in the gown for nursing thru instead of unsnapping the shoulder of the gown and dropping it off my shoulder. In my room. With the curtain drawn.</td>
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That's so sad. And such a drastic difference from my experience. I had several nurses giggle at me for fiddling with trying to be discreet in the recovery room (I ended up with a c-section), and just undid my gown for me and whipped it down. :p Being shy, I was a bit shocked at first, but ended up with three of them holding various parts of me, showing me how to get a proper latch. I got over my "shyness" pretty quickly, and realized how silly it was to be concerning myself with discression, when I should have been more concerned with learning how to breastfeed. :p<br><br>
I loved her response to the letter. I only wished she had let the woman know that maybe she should find a new line of work, if she's not mature enough to see a breast for what it really is.
 
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