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No, CNM's are not required for birth centers.
 

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from what I understand of Florida laws an LM actually has a better scope of practice- a CNM I know of changed to LM status because of this
 

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Well you can add me to the list. Ive been a doula since October 2002. My goal since Oct 03 has been becoming a CPM.<br><br>
I was attending a hospital birth as a back up doula and the mom wanted me to use a warm compress during the 2nd stage. When I felt the babies head on the perineium I was in awe! Once the babe was fully crowning the OB asked me to step aside and she streached the mom w/ her fingers.( <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/mischievous.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="mischief"> ) (before I moved I helped the mom feel her baby too <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/smile.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="smile"> ) The mom pushed so well, had a teensey tear that was NOT stitched <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/bouncy.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="bouncy"> and I was hooked. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/orngbiggrin.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="orange big grin"><br><br>
Well, I have a 4 yr old and a 3 month old, but we are pretty sure we aer done having our own babies. I had our daughter at home...unplanned unassisted birth. When my kids are older I plan to apprentice w/ one of the CPMs, Im hoping that my midwife is still practicing then. According to state law kids have to be 13 to babysit or stay home alone, so when ds is at least 13, but that will depend on their maturity and how they get along. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/lol.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="lol">
 

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Memiles~ I thought I was just stuck with the one school in my state also until I found out about Frontier (<a href="http://www.midwives.org/)" target="_blank">http://www.midwives.org/)</a>, its the oldest and largest midwifery school in the country and they have a distance learning program. People from all over the world get there CNM there. I don't know if you are only interested in the CPM route, but it might be another option for you.
 

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True, the only thing we don't have that a CNM does have is prescription and hospital privilidges. But we don't need an OB to sign our protocols, and we don't need back up unless Mama has certain risk factors which are outlined in our rules.
 

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I heard the <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/luxlove.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="throb"> for the baby on my mom with the threatened miscarriage today. Since she has not had any significant bleeding for a little less than a week, this is very encouraging news. I really had my stomach tied up in knots about it, so it is a huge relief. I think I'll go get a massage tonight. (Which won't help my stomach, but the rest of me will feel just fine . . .)<br><br>
My study group is all aflutter because there is an OB in rural Michigan who is trying to whip up one of the local physician's groups to support a bill in the Michigan legislature requiring lay midwives to file birth certificates and death certificates. This isn't a big deal in and of itself, because all of the midwives I know do that every time. What he is trying to do, though, is create the impression that homebirth midwives are hiding deaths. He wants to make it easier for midwives to be prosecuted (and in MI, an alegal state, we would be charged with manslaughter or negligent homicide, I believe) because the parents don't want to be part of prosecuting them. So, I am not afraid of this potential bill, but rather of the lobbying that presents us as reckless and dishonest.<br><br>
The thing is, I can't imagine it would be very easy for a midwife to be criminally prosecuted for a stillbirth -- even if she made mistakes in prenatal care it would be hard to prove that she was responsible in a criminal way for a baby that died in utero. All other babies we would do CPR on until they got to the hospital and the babies would "die" there if they were going to, leaving the death certificate to the responsibility of the hospital.<br><br>
The only exception I can think of with this would be Amish births -- sometimes those families have a philosophical opposition to heroic measures to save babies. But if he is going after Amish midwives, he is going to just drive the mamas further underground. They will often have unassisted births if there is no midwife to serve them.<br><br>
Sorry to ramble . . . what do you think?<br><br>
Stacia
 

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My first doula client is in labor!! She called me this morning, she had false labor last week and this morning she's having strong and hard cntx. She's having to breathe through them and said they are stronger than any cntx she's had before. She's on her way to the hospital to be checked by her OB, she's going to call when she gets checked in and I'll head over. I'm really excited, and a little nervous since this is my first birth as a doula. I'm pacing the floor like an expectant father, waiting for her call <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/lol.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="lol"> It's her first baby, a girl, and she's determined to go natural <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/smile.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="smile"><br><br>
Wish me luck!
 

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Thank you Sevenkids and mwherbs for correcting my misconceptions. I don't know where I heard that from. I've been thinking/researching some more in the past couple days and am leaning more toward a LM/CPM. Although I still have plenty of years before I take the plunge so I guess I don't have to decide now.<br><br>
On a side note: I just got hired as a birth assistant at a local birth center. I am so excited!!! It is the birth center that I had my homebirth through, so I know all the ladies there well. It is very part time...only 1 day a week in the office and 5 days a month on call for births. It is so perfect for me b/c I get to work in the preg/birth field and still get to be home with my babies. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/thumb.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="thumbs up">
 

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Jilian ~ How exciting!!! Have fun!! Looking forward to hearing all about it!<br><br>
mama2annabelle ~ Congrats! <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/thumb.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="thumbs up"><br><br><br>
Aspiring or current doulas....what organization are/did you go thru? I will be going with CAPPA (hopefully the distance learning program). <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/smile.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="smile">
 

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Thanks, I'm still waiting to hear from her. She's at the hospital now. I'll let everyone know how things went.<br><br><div style="margin:20px;margin-top:5px;">
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<div style="font-style:italic;">Aspiring or current doulas....what organization are/did you go thru? I will be going with CAPPA (hopefully the distance learning program). <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/smile.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="smile"></div>
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I did CAPPA and really liked the training. They were also really helpful in answering any questions. I've heard nothing but good things about CAPPA
 

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I attended a CAPPA/DONA trainging (the last one DONA accepted from CAPPA)<br><br>
I personally prefer DONA
 

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Hi mama's - I'm an aspiring miswife also. I just received my admissions package for National Midwifery Institute. I have a bunch of questions before I fill it out, so I am waiting for their response.<br><br>
Can we apply for FAFSA with NMI? If, so...I will. I know they have a payment plan option, but I am still looking into the details of it.
 

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Hello, all!<br><br>
I recently made the decision to become a midwife as well! Hopefully, next year I will be attending the Oregon Midwifery School in Ashland. I am really excited and looking forward to chatting with others in my shoes.
 

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Nosebite: Nope, no federal aid available for NMI . . . unfortunately. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/greensad.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="greensad"> That is one of the stumbling blocks for me in my quest for a midwifery certification; coming up with $12,000 out of pocket is going to be difficult.<br><br>
mama2annabelle: Great news! Let us know how it goes . . .
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;">Hello, all!<br><br>
I recently made the decision to become a midwife as well! Hopefully, next year I will be attending the Oregon Midwifery School in Ashland. I am really excited and looking forward to chatting with others in my shoes.</div>
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No s*** mama!! <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/thumb.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="thumbs up"> That is the midwifery school I am applying to in March! It's the only one on my list and I am thinking of doing the distance program first, to up my chances of getting in.<br>
We should talk some more!!<br><img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/love.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="love"><img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/love.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="love"> to ALL you beautiful magical birth honoring womyn!
 

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Aspiring Midwife, struggling doula ...<br><br>
I've certified through CAPPA as a CBE (though I've yet to teach classes) and a birth Doula. I'm in south western OK and am looking for a midwife to apprentice under. I really feel like for me the best option is a lengthy apprenticship as opposed to formalized schooling. I may take some school, like I feel I need an anotamy and medical terminiology class but I think hands on learning from an "old school" midwife is where I'm headed.... just hope I can find someone.
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;">My first doula client is in labor!! She called me this morning, she had false labor last week and this morning she's having strong and hard cntx. She's having to breathe through them and said they are stronger than any cntx she's had before. She's on her way to the hospital to be checked by her OB, she's going to call when she gets checked in and I'll head over. I'm really excited, and a little nervous since this is my first birth as a doula. I'm pacing the floor like an expectant father, waiting for her call <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/lol.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="lol"> It's her first baby, a girl, and she's determined to go natural <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/smile.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="smile"><br><br>
Wish me luck!</div>
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Still nothing. She was sent home from the hospital for "failure to progress". She's still at 3 cm and having pretty regular cntx. She's getting discouraged. She's almost 42 weeks now and her OB is hoping to schedule an induction. Can you wise mamas offer me any advice for this mama? I've suggested several natural induction methods. It seems like she's already in early labor but just neeeds a little extra "push" to go into REAL labor.
 

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To relax, stop *trying* to have the baby, and just enjoy being pregnant, at home with her husband for one more day (or two or three)<br><br>
Get as much sleep as she can, watch movies, eat good foods, take long warm baths and RELAX.
 

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BTW, around here, "failure to progress" (aka failure to wait) would have NOT ended with her being sent home...rather to the OR...so she's a lucky mama!
 
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