If he could pull the baby out with forceps, she could've birthed the baby just as fine if he had given her the time. Her pelvis didn't get any bigger when he put the forceps in. Fat is squishy and I don't think people realize that. Expect in very rare cases, your body will not grow a baby bigger than it should.
Babies are getting bigger and pelvises aren't?
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I'm puzzled by this too. Isn't the head circumference what makes a baby "big"? The rest of the body pretty much slides out (save any kind of shoulder dystocia).
It's really ridiculous that OBs are saying this sort of thing. People are likely to believe them
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It's really ridiculous that OBs are saying this sort of thing. People are likely to believe them
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Exactly. That OB was a quack, pure and simple. Pretending that he knows something about the birth process and how women's bodies work, when he really knows nothing about it at all.
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| If he could pull the baby out with forceps, she could've birthed the baby just as fine if he had given her the time. Her pelvis didn't get any bigger when he put the forceps in. |
CPD is a crock in the first place, but for the very few (and i mean VERY few) cases where this is legit, its the size of the head that would matter, not the squishy, fleshy, maleable fat. Head circumferences generally stick within a set range, poundage notwithstanding. what BS!
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maybe they should "let" these mamas, you know, MOVE a little bit.
maybe they should "let" these mamas, you know, MOVE a little bit.
Interesting. This thread caught my eye because one of my friends who had two c-sections (after trying VERY hard for vaginal births both times) is always asking me about baby size and if I've heard anything about it.....which I never have.
She was told by her MW that more c-sections are needed because babies are getting "too big" in utero because our diets are so much better now.
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I don't know about our diets (in general "our") being any better but certainly babies are getting bigger compared to previous generations when women starved themselves to stay under the 17 pound weight gain limit.
I notice that the older women at church (70s +) always make the BIGGEST deal about how *huge* I am and how I'm never going to make it to my due date etc. And when I say that DD was 8.8 their eyes bug out of their head. Then they usually tell me about their 4, 5 and 6 pound babies.
Doh...DD is awake.
She was told by her MW that more c-sections are needed because babies are getting "too big" in utero because our diets are so much better now.
I don't know about our diets (in general "our") being any better but certainly babies are getting bigger compared to previous generations when women starved themselves to stay under the 17 pound weight gain limit.
I notice that the older women at church (70s +) always make the BIGGEST deal about how *huge* I am and how I'm never going to make it to my due date etc. And when I say that DD was 8.8 their eyes bug out of their head. Then they usually tell me about their 4, 5 and 6 pound babies.
Doh...DD is awake.
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fast food and junk food generally have a ton of calories and i think a lot of pregnant moms are getting more calories than their babies need. sometimes "healthy" extra calories just end up becoming fat on the mom, but unhealthy extra calories can probably be over utilized by the baby and end up with a too large baby.
Originally Posted by alexisyael Actually, I think that *some* babies may be getting too big because of all the junk food their mamas eat. That happened to my sister - you eat a half gallon of ice cream every day (plus a lot of other sugar and junk food), and your body may end up growing a baby that's too big to even engage, let alone be birthed. Yeah, fat compresses, but a baby with a huge fat head may not compress enough, KWIM? |
fast food and junk food generally have a ton of calories and i think a lot of pregnant moms are getting more calories than their babies need. sometimes "healthy" extra calories just end up becoming fat on the mom, but unhealthy extra calories can probably be over utilized by the baby and end up with a too large baby.
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I am a little bit skeptical about this. I ate a lot of ice cream while pregnant. (Good protein!
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) I also ate my share of chocolate and cookies and macaroni & cheese... okay, okay, I wasn't gorging on these things all day long, and I don't usually eat pre-packaged foods (meaning not a lot of the *really* junky stuff like hydrogenated fats and high-fructose corn syrup.) But heavens, I certainly wasn't eating a low-sugar low-calorie diet by any means. (And for the record, I'm "clinically obese" at 5'6" and 200 lbs.)
My largest baby was 8 lb. 2 oz. and my smallest 6 lb. 10 oz.
In contrast, my husband's grandmother who was just a little wisp of a thing with hardly an ounce of fat on her body, had 9-11 lb. babies.
I think it's mostly genetics.
Out of curiosity, how was your sister's birth managed?
| Actually, I think that *some* babies may be getting too big because of all the junk food their mamas eat. That happened to my sister - you eat a half gallon of ice cream every day (plus a lot of other sugar and junk food), and your body may end up growing a baby that's too big to even engage, let alone be birthed. Yeah, fat compresses, but a baby with a huge fat head may not compress enough, KWIM? |
My largest baby was 8 lb. 2 oz. and my smallest 6 lb. 10 oz.
In contrast, my husband's grandmother who was just a little wisp of a thing with hardly an ounce of fat on her body, had 9-11 lb. babies.
I think it's mostly genetics.
Out of curiosity, how was your sister's birth managed?
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I do agree with this for the most part, but my sister was probably eating double to triple the amount of calories she should have been, all from processed/ junk foods. She has probably the worst diet (in general) of anyone I know, which is saying a lot.
I'm not following a low-calorie/ no sugar diet by any stretch of the imagination (tho I do *try* to stay away from a lot of sugar, but sometimes the pecan tarts at the grocery store call my name, ya know
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) nor am I a food purist (I love me some mac and cheese!), but my sister takes the cake (literally) for worst diet. Actually, sometimes I wonder if she's bullemic or anorexic, b/c she goes through phases where she binges and then phases where she doesn't eat anything (she binged throughout the pregnancy then stopped eating after she delivered and she still follows that cycle, 5 years later), which is how she "maintains" her weight... but that's neither here nor there.
She has other issues, too (fused discs in her back, emotional instability, incredible stress, no good support system) and her labor was not managed well at all. All of that combined I think is what led to her c-section, so no, I don't think it was just one thing... But certainly, she had a much bigger baby than anyone else in our family has ever had, and she's the shortest/ most petite boned of all of us. So, I do think her baby was a lot bigger than she might have been.
But yeah, my family does tend towards big babies and large weight gains (hers was just the biggest)... so genetics definitely plays a part!
Originally Posted by fourlittlebirds I think it's mostly genetics. Out of curiosity, how was your sister's birth managed? |
I'm not following a low-calorie/ no sugar diet by any stretch of the imagination (tho I do *try* to stay away from a lot of sugar, but sometimes the pecan tarts at the grocery store call my name, ya know
She has other issues, too (fused discs in her back, emotional instability, incredible stress, no good support system) and her labor was not managed well at all. All of that combined I think is what led to her c-section, so no, I don't think it was just one thing... But certainly, she had a much bigger baby than anyone else in our family has ever had, and she's the shortest/ most petite boned of all of us. So, I do think her baby was a lot bigger than she might have been.
But yeah, my family does tend towards big babies and large weight gains (hers was just the biggest)... so genetics definitely plays a part!
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