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This is disturbing on sooooo many levels.<br><br><a href="http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/OnCall/story?id=2640591&page=1" target="_blank">http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/OnCall/sto...2640591&page=1</a>
 

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<table border="0" cellpadding="6" cellspacing="0" width="99%"><tr><td class="alt2" style="border:1px inset;">First, depressed babies do not exhibit a lot of emotion. Second, depressed babies may have trouble eating or sleeping, and may be irritable</td>
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ahh well ahhhhh<br>
oh hell<br>
give me a got damn break, he described ALL babies right there.
 

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If people actually took care of their babies and held them and rocked them and nursed them instead of being scared to spoil them I wonder how many babies would actually be depressed...
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;">If people actually took care of their babies and held them and rocked them and nursed them instead of being scared to spoil them I wonder how many babies would actually be depressed...</div>
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Um yeah! Isn't that common sense though? Are people really that wrapped up in conforming and the sad belief that children are nothing more than manipulators and need to yield to the power of the almight "expert" who may have had years of schooling but who may never have worked with a child in his/her life? If this weren't from ABC, which is generally a reliable new source, I'd say this is a joke! I already think that psychological drugs use is rampant, many times unecessary, and out of control in children, but this brings to a whole new, somewhat unbelieveable level. BTW, I thought "baby depression" already has a name: "faliure to thrive", which already has many treatments depending on the many causes, anything from heart defects, to genetic disorders, to neglect, to allergies, to reactions to medications, ext. I think it's scary to suggest "depression" in babies, because you could miss a very real and very dangerous disorder. This already happens in adults, as doctors just diagnose depression in the snap of their fingers, write out a prescription without even sending the patient to a pshychologist, and then move on, sometimes missing very real physical disorders. Do we now want this to happen to our children? This is very scary.
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;">If people actually took care of their babies and held them and rocked them and nursed them instead of being scared to spoil them I wonder how many babies would actually be depressed...</div>
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<div style="font-style:italic;">If people actually took care of their babies and held them and rocked them and nursed them instead of being scared to spoil them I wonder how many babies would actually be depressed...</div>
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Additionally, I wonder what affect nutrition has in all this. If poor maternal nutrition can contribute to maternal depression, it follows that poor maternal nutrition can contribute to infant depressison as well.
 

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Lets also not forget the very traumatic and horrific way our babies are brought into the world. Birth Trauma is very real, and frankly if I was ripped from my mothers womb, had tubes thrust down my throat and was left in some cubical taken care of by masked strangers - I would be depressed too!
 

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I can only quote Comic Book Guy: "There's no emoticon for what I'm feeling!!"<br><br>
But this <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/img/vbsmilies/smilies/dizzy.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="Dizzy">: comes closest.
 

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I agree with Ruthla and WendyC both -- nutrition and birth trauma are probably greatly involved...of couse, like everything in this country, we don't bother looking at causes when we can just pop a pill. Poor babies.
 

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unbelievable - what will they come up with next, in-utero drugs for the depressed fetus?<br><br>
perhaps babies who seem unemotional are that way because their emotions have been ignored while they cio or are left in a swing or bucket all day staring at a plastic toy face <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/shrug.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="shrug">
 

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I can just see the logical process that led to this research...The baby is crying, and only sleeps for a few hours at a time, and he seems rather listless...Maybe he is depressed.<br><br>
hmmm, maybe, or maybe he's, oh I don't know, A BABY!?<br><br>
Hellooooooo?!<br><br>
God forbid parents be inconvienced by the sleep patterns and needs of their infants...no no, glaze them over and shut them up and if they still won't sleep well there' valium for that, too...I'm sure someone will figure out the dosage for a new born eventually.<br><br><br>
This is just so pathetic. Hey, I have an idea, instead of giving children prozac (and further f'ing with brain chemicals in developing children's bodies), how about we give them real nutrition, real attention, and real nurturing...ya think it'll work?<br><br>
Why do I foresee a whole generation of pre-teens with prescriptionally balanced psyches and surgically carved faces and bodies.
 

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Funny though. The article said infant depression is likely caused by neglect. How many neglectful parents would think, "oh, baby is depressed, let's go see the shrink" ? Bit oxymoronic the whole thing
 

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Oh, my ....what kind of world am I bringing my kids into? I am so scared for the future of humans...<img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/img/vbsmilies/smilies/gloomy.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="Gloomy">:
 

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There's an article about the "Babywise" parenting books by Gary Ezzo (which promote very strict scheduling of feeds for infants and other sad things) called "Getting Wise to Babywise" by Katie Allison Granju. It's at salon.com and nospank.org (?) among other places. This article says that using this type of parenting method can lead to depression symptoms in babies (not to mention dehydration and failure to thrive.)<br><br>
I know I've read that dehydrated babies can sleep TOO MUCH and be mistaken for a "good baby." I wonder if some babies sleep too much from depression, like an adult with depression sometimes sleeps too much.
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;">There's an article about the "Babywise" parenting books by Gary Ezzo (which promote very strict scheduling of feeds for infants and other sad things) called "Getting Wise to Babywise" by Katie Allison Granju. It's at salon.com and nospank.org (?) among other places. This article says that using this type of parenting method can lead to depression symptoms in babies (not to mention dehydration and failure to thrive.)<br><br>
I know I've read that dehydrated babies can sleep TOO MUCH and be mistaken for a "good baby." I wonder if some babies sleep too much from depression, like an adult with depression sometimes sleeps too much.</div>
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If that's true, then I must have had some super great adjusted babies. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/winky.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="Wink">
 

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I'm just waiting for someone to come ream us out for "judging" parents who put babies on prozac because "some babies really need it and it saves lives!"
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;">Funny though. The article said infant depression is likely caused by neglect. How many neglectful parents would think, "oh, baby is depressed, let's go see the shrink" ? Bit oxymoronic the whole thing</div>
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Well, that's the funny thing. I read an article not too long back that was talking about how this woman took her 11 month old to the shink and neurologist for intervention, because she was so nonresponsive. They found that it was because the mother hadn't been responding to her cues (the girl would lift her arms to be picked up, the mom would ignore her, she had a couple of older kids too and was suffering PPD). When the mother was shown her behavior, she did change and started responding to her daughter...and the kid became a totally different baby.<br><br>
I don't think it would be bad for many people to get help if they were doing things like this, but how sad if the doctors look at the outcome (depression) rather than the underlying issue (neglect or nonresponsiveness) and prescribed rather than treated.
 
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