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My milk is drying up, my baby is on strike, I'm terrified he's going to get dehydrated and have to be hospitalized. I'm pumping every other hour but I only get about 15-20 mL a session and I found a formula (mathematical, not beverage) that says he should be getting around 20 oz daily. I'm trying to drink and eat more but I'm not seeing a change yet and I'm feeling so discouraged. I just don't know what to do and the hormones are raging on top of all this.<br><br>
Any advice will be much appreciated.<br><br>
And I just realized that the above doesn't give you many detail to think over. The little guy is 12 days old, 7 lbs at birth and has not nursed in 30 hours now. He has been really fussy while nursing from the get-go but was starting to get good at it. Then a few days ago he started getting fussy again and it kept getting worse until he just stopped trying. He'll open his mouth and put it on my nipple but won't suckle. I'm pumping what I can and feeding him by eye dropper. I'm pretty sure he stopped trying to nurse due to frustration from low supply and slow let-down.
 

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I'm pumping every other hour. Our LC is out of town until Friday. My midwife called me last night after I posted and gave me a huge list of suggestions to try. At least some of them are working. Ky decided to nurse once last night and I'm pumping an ounce each time now so we're improving a little.
 

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Arelyn,<br>
I saw a similar thread to this yesterday. I'm going to give you a link to a sticky at the top of this board. It contains a couple of posts from me with Supply and Pumping tips.<br><br><a href="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/showthread.php?t=718189" target="_blank">http://www.mothering.com/discussions...d.php?t=718189</a><br><br>
I'll emphasize the basics here. Are you drinking at least 8 to 10 glasses of water? Are you getting enough protein, healthy carbs and a good amount of fat (healthy or otherwise)? Are you getting about 500 more calories a day than you did pre-pregnancy? Have you tried co-sleeping as a way to get enough rest while encouraging intake at a time when your Prolactin levels are higher, so he doesn't have to work as hard?<br><br>
Try eating oatmeal. Check out the herbal milk boosters.<br><br>
Try the Marmet/massage technique and enhancement technique in my post on pumping. Also, try compressions during pumping and while nursing.<br><br>
I will post back with info on how many wet and poopy diapers he should have and dehydration signs to look for. If he is not getting enough wet and poopy diapers and shows any signs of dehydration get him to the doctors ASAP. I realize how important BF'ing is and how wonderful a pristine gut is but first and foremost you want to avoid brain damage and death.<br><br>
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Arelyn,<br>
Please, please, please, if there is any question about whether your DC has enough wet or poopy diapers, or if there are any signs of dehydration do not wait to see the LC. At that point this is no longer purely an important BF'ing issue but an urgent medical issue.<br><br>
Is Baby Getting Enough Milk? Birth to Six Weeks<br><a href="http://www.kellymom.com/bf/supply/enough-milk.html" target="_blank">http://www.kellymom.com/bf/supply/enough-milk.html</a><br><br>
My baby is sick - should I continue breastfeed? See section on Dehydration <a href="http://www.kellymom.com/health/illness/baby-illness.html" target="_blank">http://www.kellymom.com/health/illne...y-illness.html</a> EXCERPT Following are signs of dehydration:<br>
•fewer than 2 wet diapers in a 24-hour period<br>
•baby not behaving normally (more irritable, less active, sleeping more)<br>
•lethargy<br>
•listlessness<br>
•weak cry<br>
•no tears (in an infant older than 3 months)<br>
•dry mouth<br>
•skin that stays wrinkly-looking when pinched (pull up the skin on the front of the hand; it should pop easily back into place - not stay pinched or wrinkly-looking)<br>
•eyes that look sunken<br>
•cool, clammy extremities, especially the fingers and toes<br>
•fast breathing, or a heart that is beating faster than usual<br>
•fever<br><br>
Take care and please keep us posted.<br>
~Cath
 

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Thank you for posting the dehydration symptoms! He doesn't have any of them and he's still generating plenty of wet diapers so I guess I'm just being an over-worried first time mom. You have`no idea how relieved I feel. Also thanks for suggesting the marmet technique...my let-down is so much faster when I do the massage first. Now I just need to find a way to get my little boy to try and nurse otherwise he'll never realize the improvements we're making here (and it's just one more day till the LC get's back in town...phew).<br><br>
And to answer your questions:<br>
-I'm good about drinking water.<br>
-I think my diet is sufficient though I'm honestly not sure.<br>
-We do co-sleep but he generally refuses to night nurse. He'll only wake up if he's wet/poopy and will scream until he's purple if I try to nurse him after his diaper change. Maybe he's going to change that though since he did nurse last night around midnight (the only time he's nursed since going on strike).
 

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When you say plenty of wets does that mean 5 to 6 a day; and is he having 3 to 4 dirty diapers a day?<br><br>
If so, whewwww!<br><br>
As far as a a good diet, it doesn't need to be perfect but --as an example-- if you naturally tend towards a minimal meat and/or low fat diet you may need to work on your protein and/or fat intake.<br><br>
I'm glad the Marmet Technique is working for you. Did you try the "enhancement" technique? That can make a big difference as well.<br><br>
Regarding nursing at night, this may defy your natural instincts but you might want to try nursing him before changing the diaper. He may get so jazzed up by getting undressed and changed that he's not receptive to nursing. How quickly does he fall back asleep after you change him?<br><br>
Good luck, ~Cath
 

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We're NAK actually and it's harder than I thought. OK, he's done, we'll work on that skill another day.<br><br>
My MW called the LC and got some tips and came over for a few hours to try them out. You're right. He get's too worked up and that's a big part of his not nursing. Now we know to help him calm down before we even mention food (which he was starting to associate with "bad things" like diaper changes and being woken up).<br><br>
Thank you so much for the advice and support. It is very much appreciated!
 

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arelyn,<br>
I'm so glad to hear your good news. Keep up the good work.<br>
~Cath
 
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