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<p>I know doctors are to know more than us, but I'm doubting this one. I went in last week at 15 weeks and said I feel it moving. I feel like little fingers tracing from inside stomach or like my shirt is slipping on belly only it's not. It's usually when I'm sitting quietly or lying down. If lying on my side it's typically on the spot between belly and bed.</p>
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<p>Doctor says it's GAS. Gas doesn't feel like that. :| He tells me no movement is to be felt til 20-25 weeks. Well, gee, I felt it at 4 months with my first, why would it be LATER with my 2nd? He says that whole feeling it sooner with another pregnancy only works if it's closer together not 8 years apart, so I'm basically at square one.</p>
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<p>I spoke with others this weekend at a party for my son's friend and they all said he was nuts. One had a kid 5 years after her last and said at 15 weeks that's the baby, as I thought it was.</p>
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<p>I was also told my baby is measuring a week larger, so it's not that unreasonable to me that I'd feel it at 15 weeks. I don't always feel it not every day, but I'm certain he's wrong and this is the baby moving. What do you all think?</p>
 

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<p>I've never heard anything about distance between pregnancies affecting when you feel movement. ??</p>
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I don't think it's a stretch to say that you're feeling movement right now. 25 weeks definitely seems late. </p>
 

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<p>Doctors will also tell you that you feel movement later if you're fat and that's a load of, um, baloney. With my 1st, I felt around 16 weeks. With my 2nd, it was 13 weeks. With my 3rd, I was very worried because at 20 weeks I still hadn't felt anything certain.</p>
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<p>So, it can vary and doctors aren't in your body feeling what you feel :)</p>
 

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<p><span class="pmenuShow" id="user_pMenu-16638"><a href="../../../user/nova22" id="user_poster_16067595">nova22</a> that's what I thought. I mean gee 20-25 weeks that's more than half the pregnancy not feeling anything? I asked DH and he said I felt DS at 4 months. Granted I was a good 20 pounds lighter and younger with him, but I was not overweight when I got pregnant this time either.</span></p>
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<p><span class="pmenuShow">Gas just doesn't feel like fingers and it's not only at the times we are told babies are more active - later at night, when sitting or lying down quietly.</span> DH said gas usually hurts, well, not always but it certainly does not feel like what I described. I've also had days where I was very gassy and I did not feel the above feelings. So, that to me kinda proves it's not really gas.</p>
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<p><span class="pmenuShow" id="user_pMenu-55106"><a href="../../../user/elisheva" id="user_poster_16067606">elisheva</a>it it does vary, I just think that the whole if there's a lot of years between it's just like the first time hard to believe. I'll have to switch providers in January after the 20 week u/s and will likely be going to a midwife. Here's hoping she doesn't say goofy things like this.</span></p>
 

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<p>rubbish!  I felt my first at 16 weeks definitely.  How would he know anyway?  Is he in your body?  Has he ever felt a baby move inside him?  It doesn't really feel like gas to a lot of women.</p>
 

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<p>This is my 2nd pregnancy and there are 6 years between them.  I felt this one move around 15-16 weeks.  I've been feeling almost constant movement since 19-20 weeks. </p>
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<p>I think your doctor is full of rubbish.</p>
 

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<p>its hilarious that this male doctor is telling you that you couldn't possibly be feeling movement. maybe it was different for him when he was pregnant lmao.</p>
<p>with my first, i didnt feel movement until about 20 weeks..</p>
<p>7 years later with my second, i felt definite. not gassy. real movement at 12 weeks. even i was shocked at how early and i honestly brushed it off as gas at first because my midwife told me its way too early to be feeling anything, but she made it really clear that she wasn't going to totally deny that it was possible and that obviously its my body so i would know! sure enough, as the weeks went on, i felt the same movement just stronger and stronger and at 22 weeks she's still going nuts in there. i just have an exceptionally strong girl in me!</p>
 

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<p>Totally rubbish.  With this one (my first) I could feel movement at 14 weeks, see it at 18 weeks, and videotape it by 22 or 23.  I had my baby shower at 25 weeks and he pushed out hard enough that people on the other side of the room knew he was kicking.  There's no way I could have not felt it.</p>
 

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<p>He's wrong.</p>
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<p>At 20-25 weeks with my first, my husband could SEE the baby moving.  I had darn well been feeling him for quite awhile before then.</p>
 

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<p>He's insane.  And, while I try not to be an extremist, I'd consider a new hcp.  Seriously.  If he's that ignorant on something so little, what about the big things?</p>
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<p>I didn't feel much movement until nearly 20 weeks or so with this one, but that was mostly due to an anterior placenta.  Even with that extra padding, it was like a mosh pit in there by 25 weeks!</p>
 
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<p>I felt movement around 12 weeks with my first!  We'll see when I feel movement with this little bean, I'm 4 -5 weeks currently.</p>
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<p>I think, that if you think the sensation you are feeling is the baby then it probably is!!  </p>
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<p>Your doctor should be congratulating and celebrating with you! Also, it would be more accurate to say that it is still normal for women not to feel anything until 20-25 weeks, but many feel the baby earlier!</p>
 

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<p>It's definitely funny to me that just because they are doctors, men think they can be experts at what it feels like to have a baby moving inside you. Sorry, buddy, but you've never felt it before and never will so keep your opinions to yourself. Sounds condescending to me.</p>
 

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<p>I'm only 13 weeks and my doc has been asking if I've felt any movement yet ( Ihaven't). Yours sounds full of it.</p>
 

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<p>Thanks all. My husband even believed it was the baby. He knows gas doesn't feel like I've been feeling. It happens 9pm or later (not every night, though, so that makes me wonder) and when I'm quietly sitting or lying in bed. My husband feels it moving, too. He can lay his head on my belly and he claims he hears the heartbeat (he says it's the baby as it moves around and he can feel it sometimes, too)</p>
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<p>When he said it was gas it was in a rather condescending manner. Here I read at 16 weeks it's totally normal to feel the baby and I hit that tomorrow. I just kept thinking he was wrong.</p>
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<p>As for getting a new HCP I have to without choice. We are making a big move this weekend and I can't travel this far to my apts. I'm looking into a midwife that comes highly recommended. I'll stay here with him for my next apt in January (trip kinda put that off a bit) and then for the sonogram that will follow, but after that it's the new midwife (hopefully) for me.</p>
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<p>Thanks for verifying what I thought was him being nuts. <span><img alt="hammer.gif" src="http://files.mothering.com/images/smilies/hammer.gif"> I remember the same as most of you for the first time. By 20-24 weeks it was solid, hard kicks, not the beginning flutters. (Which maybe he thought I meant, but really, I described it the same as I did here. Little fingers tracing the inside of tummy and clothing slipping on tummy. That's a lot different than LO playing soccer in there at 20-24 weeks xD</span></p>
 

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<div class="quote-block">Originally Posted by <strong>prothyraia</strong> <a href="/community/forum/thread/1281280/baby-s-movements-i-think-i-feel-it-doctor-say-no-not-til-20-25-weeks-with-my-second-child#post_16068012"><img alt="View Post" class="inlineimg" src="/community/img/forum/go_quote.gif" style="border:0px solid;"></a><br><br><p>He's wrong.</p>
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<p>At 20-25 weeks with my first, my husband could SEE the baby moving.  I had darn well been feeling him for quite awhile before then.</p>
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Yeah, this exactly. I'm pg with my first, and I could feel little movements at 18ish weeks. By 25, you could clearly see from the outside that there was a party going on in there. wth is with that doctor? </p>
 

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<div class="quote-block">Originally Posted by <strong>macandcheese</strong> <a href="/community/forum/thread/1281280/baby-s-movements-i-think-i-feel-it-doctor-say-no-not-til-20-25-weeks-with-my-second-child#post_16068768"><img alt="View Post" class="inlineimg" src="/community/img/forum/go_quote.gif" style="border:0px solid;"></a><br><br><br><br><div class="quote-container"><span>Quote:</span>
<div class="quote-block">Originally Posted by <strong>prothyraia</strong> <a href="/community/forum/thread/1281280/baby-s-movements-i-think-i-feel-it-doctor-say-no-not-til-20-25-weeks-with-my-second-child#post_16068012"><img alt="View Post" class="inlineimg" src="/community/img/forum/go_quote.gif" style="border:0px solid;"></a><br><br><p>He's wrong.</p>
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<p>At 20-25 weeks with my first, my husband could SEE the baby moving.  I had darn well been feeling him for quite awhile before then.</p>
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Yeah, this exactly. I'm pg with my first, and I could feel little movements at 18ish weeks. By 25, you could clearly see from the outside that there was a party going on in there. wth is with that doctor? </p>
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I haven't a clue. I thought he was crazy, but wanted to be sure I wasn't the crazy one for thinking otherwise. I mean really. I know what gas is. There's been days I've been unbearably gassy and I did NOT feel these movements as well as days without much or any gas and I felt them. I'm positive he's..... mistaken. Maybe I'm glad I'm switching providers in January afterall.</p>
 

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<p>I'm 17 weeks pregnant with my third and I have felt it earlier with each pregnancy.  With dd1, at 20 weeks (granted I was very thin back then) I could literally see her little knees and her back pushing out hard enough to know exactly what I was looking at.  And that was late at night when I was lying down in a quiet room.  I felt dd2 moving around 16 weeks, and I have been feeling this LO moving around since 13 weeks (just flutters at first, but definitely NOT gas).  Now at 17 weeks, this baby loves the big kids and kicks me whenever I am standing with my 3 older children talking at belly level.  And I feel it moving almost all day long. </p>
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<p>It doesn't make sense to me that you would feel it later with subsequent pregnancies... wouldn't you feel it sooner since now you really know what you're feeling (unlike the Dr!)?  My midwife seems to think after one you will notice sooner... she wasn't at all surprised I felt movement at 13 weeks. </p>
 

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<p>Thank goodness you're getting a new HCP!!! That is completely absurd and incorrect.</p>
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<p>OF COURSE you can feel movement well before then. It's not distinct in many cases (at, say, 18 wks), but it can be and if you're sure then it IS movement.</p>
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<p>Honestly. I realize this person is male, but give me a break! Is he older? That's pretty out of touch...</p>
 

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<p>PS - My hubby has already felt a kick or two by 20 weeks (or maybe sooner, but not by much).</p>
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<p>I wonder if your Dr. has ever heard of Google? Or the internet... Even BabyCenter.com would be an education for him. :)</p>
 

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<p>After 20w with my first, you could see my belly twitch when I got kicked and DH felt it soon after, so IMO your dr. is full of crap.  This is my 2nd pg too and I started to feel definite movement just before 14w.  I was surprised but I was sure.  My ob and midwife did not bat an eyelash when I told them at the 14w visit.</p>
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<p>Yay for you feeling movement!</p>
 
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