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OK...I have never had a problem with milk production before but I have also never been under so much stress. I have been nursing now since my oldest was born almost 30 months ago. I am tandeming my 30mo and 9mo though the 30mo nurses once a day. Day care told me that my 9mo needs more milk. I am currently sending her with about 8-10oz for a 10 hour day - that is simply all I can make at this point. They told me she was crying and grabbing for the other kiddos bottles and needs more milk. She has been in two other day cares and her father watches her but they never said anyhting; just this new place. For a little history - I have been working full-time now since the beginning of July; before that I was a SAHM/srudent and was gone 15 hours a week tops. I have tried Mother's Milk tea and oatmeal and it just is not helping. I did not start puimping until Devin was 7mo consistently since there was not a need to. She has never had formula and I am at a loss. How can I avoid supplementation? Is there anything I can do? Has anyone else dealt with supplementing an older baby? Thanks...<img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/greensad.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="greensad"><br><br>
As a saide note: I began pumping with my oldest when she was born and could pump 8oz at a time when she was this age so I know it is possible. I usually pump once at work during lunch, once after I get home, once in the middle of the night, an d once in the am before work but I only get 1-2 oz no matter how long I pump. I use the Pump in Style if that helps.
 

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My DD is the same age as your kiddo. I send 14 ounces a day, plus several servings of solids. When I run short, I make one of the smaller bottles goat milk, which DD takes readily and with no ill effect. She won't take formula at all.<br><br>
Is she takes solids yet? With a baby that age, I'd lean in that direction over formula.<br><br>
As for pumping, your schedule sounds kind of all over the place. I pump 2-3 times a day, while I am away from DD. Each session gets less productive as the day goes on. If I try to pump while I am at home, I rarely get more than an ounce or two. I also found that renting a Medela Symphony helped immensely.
 

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I had to send to formula at that age with both of mine.<br><br>
I'm a low producer and working and pumping never did it for DD1 (I could pump 12 max, and she needed 16). I also got PG when she was 8.5 months, so my milk was gone before she was 10 months. So, she was on formula from 9-13 months. She still nursed, but there was no milk.<br><br>
DD2 was okay with 10-12 oz until around 9 months, but then she needed more, so we started her on the 9-24 mo formula (I got a free can in the mail exactly when she needed it). She was on that along with whatever I could pump and tons of solids until 15 months when we transitioned to whole milk.<br><br>
I know it's not ideal, but in order to reduce your stress and increase your milk, it may be the best solution. Hopefully, you can take some "nursing vacations" on the weekends and get some good rest.<br><br>
(Also, make sure you aren't pregnant <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/img/vbsmilies/smilies/duck.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="Duck">: When I got PG with DD2, my first sign was dropping milk supply. I was convinced my pump was broken until I took the PG test. . . )<br><br>
Good Luck!<br>
--LEE
 

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I had to supplement as my DS got older. I wasn't happy about it, but I just couldn't pump enough and oatmeal didn't help enough. My first priority had to be making sure he had enough to eat, even if it wasn't all mother's milk.<br><br>
Fenugreek wasn't an option for me, due to family history of nut allergies, and I hadn't heard of the More Milk tea at the time.<br><br>
Also, have you changed out the little white plastic thingies on your Pump in Style? That may be affecting output. Those little white deals seem to run the whole pump sometimes!<br><br>
Good luck.
 

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I think 8-10 oz for a 9 month old is not enough, especially if she's not a big eater of solids. My kids weren't eating tons of solid food at that age so I'm just going off my experience. My kids needed 12-15 per day till at least a year old. And I was gone 9 hours and nursed right before leaving and right when getting home.
 

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8-10oz doesn't sound like enough to me either; DD was reverse-cycled after I went back to work FT at 3 months, and she still drank probably 12-14oz at 9mo.<br><br>
Is there any way you can add a pumping session at some other time of the day, such as before bed, over night, or in the morning?<br><br>
And don't forget to drink, drink, drink water, as much as you can. That's really the only thing that ever affected my supply much -- the amount of water I was drinking.
 

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My dd is 9mo and she takes 8oz in an 9 hour day. I was a bit nervous as well, but she is growing and doing great. DH has her during the day and he just ups the solids if shes hungry. I would go the solids route before formula.<br>
Also, have you tried chaste tree berry? 15 drops a day for 2 days and I was a milk machine! Is there any way you can get another pumping in at work? I find it easier to get more milk away from home. Or try pushing your pumping back a little later in your work day, I get the same amount in one late session that I do in two (one early, one mid day) sessions.<br>
Maybe she is just grabbing at the others bottles because she wants what they have, not just because she is hungry? Maybe offer water if she starts grabbing? Are they splitting the 8-10oz?--If not, maybe two small bottles, instead of one big one, will help?<br>
I know it must break your heart to think that she may not be getting enough! <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/img/vbsmilies/smilies/hug2.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="Hug2"> It will be ok!<br>
Good luck!
 

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Hi,<br>
I pumped with both of my kids until ds was 17 and a half months and until dd was 16 months. With the second, it is much harder to pump as much. There were a couple of things I did to try to get as much milk as possible:<br>
1) I drank a full glass of water 5-15 min before pumping. I also made sure I was drinking like 10 full glasses during work...maybe more<br>
2) Avoid caffeine<br>
3) I brought pictures of my kiddos and had them in my pump in style so that I could just bring them out while I was pumping<br>
4) I really found that I had to de-stress right before pumping because I have a very demanding job that causes a lot of stress...SO, I meditated for about a minute or 2 right before pumping so that I could clear my mind of stress and think positive thoughts about my kids<br>
5) Don't concentrate on how much you pump...I found that if you are looking at the amount that you are pumping while in action, that in itself causes stress..Close your eyes and focus on positive thoughts<br>
6) Do talk to a la leche leader - but make sure it is someone with experience with someone who works outside the home. they tend to be a little biased towards sahm.<br>
7) Make sure you are eating really well.<br><br>
Wishing you all the luck! It's really hard, but you are almost there. Remember, at a year, she can take milk, etc...<br>
At the time, I was also tandem nursing...so I know how hard it is...I am still nursing my 20 month old, but just at home...She doesn't need it at daycare.
 
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