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I'm going to try EC with our new baby (coming in August or September--yay!) and trying to sort out supplies right now. I know it can be done with not too many supplies but I think for me the supplies will help...I think EC is fantastic and tried it before with both dds but then got tripped up in breastfeeding issues and stress over pee and let it go. I tried the pre-folds under the baby and was driven crazy from them sliding around as I adjusted the baby and then rivers of pee on my slings. So...I'm looking for some sort of underwear-type of thing that lets me know instantly when the baby is wet (not waterproof covers) but doesn't result in so much pee everywhere.<br><br>
I checked out the resources thread and Poquito pants looked good to me but I can't figure out how/where to order them and also wanted to check how people found them to use with newborns. I'm needing really really easy on and off and washability/care. I also need cotton next to the baby--had huge rash issues with Fuzzi Bunz and dd2 and still wonder if it was the synthetic fabric causing the issues.<br><br>
TIA for and help on this!
 

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They sell poquito pants at theecstore.com but they're limited in supply. The EC store also carries their own non-waterproof trainers:<br><br><a href="http://www.theecstore.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=168&products_id=1644" target="_blank">EC store trainers</a><br><br>
We have two of these and they're very absorbant, maybe too absorbant for a tiny baby in my experience. The elastic has gotten a little tattered in the wash, and we use them only occasionally, so I'm not sure how well they would hold up to everyday washing. BUT I know people say they use these on subsequent children and everything, so I'm probably just not nice enough to them when I wash them!<br><br>
You might want to try the trainers at continuum-family.com, they have them in cotton and bamboo:<br><br><a href="http://www.continuum-family.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=11_32&products_id=234" target="_blank">Cotton Trainers</a><br><br><a href="http://www.continuum-family.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=11_32&products_id=235" target="_blank">Bamboo trainers</a><br><br>
I haven't tried these, but I've tried lots of their other products and love them all. If you have any questions, just contact Deirdre...she's so helpful and lovely to work with!
 

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Thanks for sharing your experiences and for the tips. I will give Deirdre a call as well. Thanks!
 

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I love trainers from about 4 months on, but before that I think most people really prefer prefolds and a waterproof cover only when you plan to put clothes on over. Around the house a prefold wrapped around the baby with a wool blanket (or fleece) under/around it is sufficient waterproofing, and cheap enough to have plenty available for all those newborn pees.
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;">I love trainers from about 4 months on, but before that I think most people really prefer prefolds and a waterproof cover only when you plan to put clothes on over. Around the house a prefold wrapped around the baby with a wool blanket (or fleece) under/around it is sufficient waterproofing, and cheap enough to have plenty available for all those newborn pees.</div>
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How do you stop everything from sliding all over the place? Last time between fiddling with breastfeeding (a few issues along the way) and keeping track of the placenta, the prefold generally ended up nowhere near the baby's bottom and it drove me nutty to have to fiddle with that too. I sometimes think I am not so coordinated in the early post-partum days!
 

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Perhaps a prefold belt would suit your needs? It's basically a fabric covered elastic waistband. Just tuck the prefold under it at the front and back. You can buy them new from various places, sew your own, or cut the waistband off an old pair of baby pants and use that.
 

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You could also try fitted diapers. Then you could ensure they would fit by buying the newborn size. Just dont put a cover over them. I get all my cloth diapering stuff now at diaperswappers.com
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;">Perhaps a prefold belt would suit your needs? It's basically a fabric covered elastic waistband. Just tuck the prefold under it at the front and back. You can buy them new from various places, sew your own, or cut the waistband off an old pair of baby pants and use that.</div>
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Thanks. I'd read about that but it seems more difficult than the other. Maybe I'll experiment on a teddy bear and see for sure.
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;">You could also try fitted diapers. Then you could ensure they would fit by buying the newborn size. Just dont put a cover over them. I get all my cloth diapering stuff now at diaperswappers.com</div>
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Ah...great idea! Thanks. I'm checking them out now.
 

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you can also secure a prefold with a snappi fastener. that's generally what i do if she's going to be in a carrier or in the car or something. if we're going out i can throw a wool cover or a PUL cover over it to keep her from getting her carseat wet. prefolds with a snappi was pretty much her uniform in the early weeks. my babies always grow so fast (she's 9 weeks now and probably close to 15 pounds and the other two grew similarly) so i don't like to spend a lot on newborn/small size stuff.<br><br>
now that's she's a bit bigger, i've also got some cheap fitted diapers which are very nice to have around. i got a ton of kushies ones used on diaperswappers for next to nothing, and i'm not sure i'd like them if i wanted them to perform like a real diaper, but they're perfect for my needs ec'ing so she's been mostly wearing those around the house these days. even new those are pretty reasonable, though i'm not sure if they make a newborn size? the ones i have start at 10 pounds, and even that i think is a bit of a joke - they were huge on her when she was 10 pounds. i think they fit like most Medium size CD's.<br><br>
the links lexmas gave you are all great for trainers. i'm planning on getting some from the ec store once her growth slows a bit and also when she's going a little less frequently and we're catching more poos (we catch some but not all at this point).
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;">you can also secure a prefold with a snappi fastener. that's generally what i do if she's going to be in a carrier or in the car or something. if we're going out i can throw a wool cover or a PUL cover over it to keep her from getting her carseat wet. prefolds with a snappi was pretty much her uniform in the early weeks. my babies always grow so fast (she's 9 weeks now and probably close to 15 pounds and the other two grew similarly) so i don't like to spend a lot on newborn/small size stuff.<br><br>
now that's she's a bit bigger, i've also got some cheap fitted diapers which are very nice to have around. i got a ton of kushies ones used on diaperswappers for next to nothing, and i'm not sure i'd like them if i wanted them to perform like a real diaper, but they're perfect for my needs ec'ing so she's been mostly wearing those around the house these days. even new those are pretty reasonable, though i'm not sure if they make a newborn size? the ones i have start at 10 pounds, and even that i think is a bit of a joke - they were huge on her when she was 10 pounds. i think they fit like most Medium size CD's.</div>
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Thanks for the tips! I think I could handle prefolds with the snappi fasteners but hadn't thought of it and the fitted diapers are a great idea. I was having sticker shock at the trainers prices and this sounds much more manageable financially. Thanks!
 

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I have to say fitteds worked great for us when dd2 was still very little. Prefolds snappied without a cover worked too, but the snappi would always get lost in the shuffle and end up sticking to something. Dd2 will be 6mo on the 12th and we've moved to just undies in the house, and fitteds with a cover out of the house.
 

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i'm also due in Aug/Sept! we are so psyched to try EC!<br><br>
right now, i'm planning on a combo of things.<br><br>
first, i'm going to get a few prefolds to use as a simple barrier when reclining, being held, etc. this may or may not include the use of a belt. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/smile.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="smile"><br><br>
second, i'm going to use some fitteds (probably motherease) without covers for general use when more mobile and still learning cues (eg, when out on walks, a diaper that can hold more and not leak, but still be obvious when wet would be helpful, i think--as i'm learning signals).<br><br>
third, i plan on getting a couple of covers to use when in the car seat, when being held by others trying to learn EC (like my mom), or watched by friends (such as my yoga studio friend) so that it's easier on them.<br><br>
i'm also having pants split and looking into trainers for later. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/smile.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="smile">
 

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I never found a fitted I liked. Granted, I didn't look that hard because they are so expensive and so not really what I wanted or needed. They are super bulky, full coverage, etc. And really expensive!<br><br>
I got medium trainers when my son was about 4 months, and he's 14 months now and still fits into those same mediums (snap sides so they are on the biggest snap setting now). And I use them every day all the time - I wouldn't do the same thing with fitteds because they don't have the same versatility or trimness.
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;">I got medium trainers when my son was about 4 months, and he's 14 months now and still fits into those same mediums (snap sides so they are on the biggest snap setting now). And I use them every day all the time - I wouldn't do the same thing with fitteds because they don't have the same versatility or trimness.</div>
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I have found that emiLy's trainers last a really long time...DS is pretty small, so it's not the same thing, but with the 3 rows of snaps, we got him our nb/small trainers when he was 2 or 3 months old, and they were big, but they still fit, and they still fit him now, at almost 20 months! They still hold a big pee now, which is why I found them too absorbent when he was little, but that's not the worst thing, better that than the other way around! Plus, theecstore has thinner trainers, so those would probably be better for a little baby.<br><br>
If you're thinking of using fitteds, I don't really think trainers are that expensive...I'm a prefold and cover girl so they're too expensive for <b>me</b>... on that note, you could always use a trim cover like the SIMPLYcover and thin prefolds...we used preemies for a long time, and then thin gerber prefolds...waterproof, but since you know the diaper is thin and don't want your baby sitting in a puddle...) That's the trimmest cover out there that I know of at the moment.
 

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alrighty, so i'm looking at the EC store again (in general, i find the web site difficult to use, but now that i'm taking my time, i guess it's not so hard! <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/smile.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="smile"> ).<br><br>
it is strange how i find this whole process rather difficult. i think a large part of that is due to the fact that i'm not "doing" it yet, nor do i know how large/small the baby is going to be.<br><br>
i suppose my best bet would be to start with prefolds, and then using the measurements of the actual child once born, get whatever form of trainer/etc i would like.<br><br>
i like mother-ease diapers because they fit for a long time (infant to toddler), but they are more like a normal "diaper" than these 'slimmer' options at the EC store such as the poquito pants or little beetle learners, or the simply cover with inserts and/or prefolds.<br><br>
the truth is, i would really like for my child to mostly use the potty--i would prefer to use a minimum amount of diapers of any sort. i think it's great for preventing "accidents" but i hope to be able to communicate with my baby and 'catch' most everything.<br><br>
i think this is partly why the conversations about which diapers/trainers to use and how and when is so daunting to me.
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;">it is strange how i find this whole process rather difficult. i think a large part of that is due to the fact that i'm not "doing" it yet, nor do i know how large/small the baby is going to be.<br>
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the truth is, i would really like for my child to mostly use the potty--i would prefer to use a minimum amount of diapers of any sort. i think it's great for preventing "accidents" but i hope to be able to communicate with my baby and 'catch' most everything.<br><br>
i think this is partly why the conversations about which diapers/trainers to use and how and when is so daunting to me.</div>
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Yeah, I've been agonizing a bit too about getting all this "equipment" when EC should be pretty easy. It feels pretty silly to be spending tons of money on trainers and the like when part of the point is to NOT have to use all that stuff! But with my history on this I think having something to catch the pees when I'm not aware will help me to relax better to focus on the communication part. I'm really hoping I can sort it out this time. I've always thought it's a great thing to do.
 

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i'm really lucky to have a diaper free baby group here. we're meeting at valley forge park on july 26th.<br><br>
it will be nice ot see EC in action, and then see what works for different folks in action. at least, i think it might. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/orngbiggrin.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="orange big grin">
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;">alrighty, so i'm looking at the EC store again (in general, i find the web site difficult to use, but now that i'm taking my time, i guess it's not so hard! <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/smile.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="smile"> ).<br><br><b>it is strange how i find this whole process rather difficult. i think a large part of that is due to the fact that i'm not "doing" it yet, nor do i know how large/small the baby is going to be.<br><br>
i suppose my best bet would be to start with prefolds, and then using the measurements of the actual child once born, get whatever form of trainer/etc i would like.</b><br>
i like mother-ease diapers because they fit for a long time (infant to toddler), but they are more like a normal "diaper" than these 'slimmer' options at the EC store such as the poquito pants or little beetle learners, or the simply cover with inserts and/or prefolds.<br><br>
the truth is, i would really like for my child to mostly use the potty--i would prefer to use a minimum amount of diapers of any sort. i think it's great for preventing "accidents" but i hope to be able to communicate with my baby and 'catch' most everything.<br><br>
i think this is partly why the conversations about which diapers/trainers to use and how and when is so daunting to me.</div>
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yes! definitely wise, IMO, to start simple and figure out what you want to do from there. my babies are always freakin' gigantic, DS was in a large diaper by 6 months if not earlier. but then he started mostly growing taller and not getting any wider, so he didn't change much trainer-wise from that point until we went diaper-free at around 20 months. i don't have any of those trainers anymore, but i wouldn't be surprised if they still fit him, actually, as he's only gained like 7 pounds since he was 1 yo - just gotten taller and taller! DD2 seems to be following in those footsteps, she's probably about 15 pounds at 9 weeks, and i imagine we'll be out of the 3-6 month clothes by the time she's 3 months (and DD1 was the same as well). so for us, prefolds and OS diapers are the only things that make sense early on. once she slows down, and also starts peeing and pooing a little less frequently, i think it'll be time for trainers. but i dont find it all that difficult to remove an aplix-closure diaper, in fact until they're crawling it seems easier than the kind that pull up and down.
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;"><br><a href="http://www.theecstore.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=168&products_id=1644" target="_blank">EC store trainers</a><br><br>
We have two of these and they're very absorbant, maybe too absorbant for a tiny baby in my experience. The elastic has gotten a little tattered in the wash, and we use them only occasionally, so I'm not sure how well they would hold up to everyday washing. BUT I know people say they use these on subsequent children and everything, so I'm probably just not nice enough to them when I wash them!</div>
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I'm not gentle when I wash our EC Store trainers and they've held up great with no signs of wear (same size for more than a year) <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/thumb.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="thumbs up">
 
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