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nak.<br><br>
lots of different questions.<br><br>
1. when i pump, notice there's only a thin layer of hindmilk on top (like 1/4 oz per 3 oz total bm). is this ok & if not, how do i increase it?<br><br>
2. i'm taking fenugreek, blessed thistle, & nettle capsules AND goat's rue tincture. is this the same, better than, or worse than only taking motherlove's more milk special blend? should i just add the special blend to my regimen or is that overkill (or overdose?)?<br><br>
3. i'm also taking domperidone (high stress life right now-can't avoid). i take 3 caps 3x a day. i noticed an increase in how much i pump, but it's not enough to stop supplementing. should i increase the dom? how much? should i just increase the frequency only (2 caps 4x per day?).<br><br>
i never seem able to satsfy my little guy. he can't get that full belly, milk drunk, going to sleep at the breast feeling. please help! <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/img/vbsmilies/smilies/dizzy.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="Dizzy">:<br><br>
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<div style="font-style:italic;">1. when i pump, notice there's only a thin layer of hindmilk on top (like 1/4 oz per 3 oz total bm). is this ok & if not, how do i increase it?</div>
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It's fine. The amount of fat in breastmilk varies according to baby's age, and can vary from one feeding to the next. You could try pumping longer, or pumping after your baby nurses.<br><br><div style="margin:20px;margin-top:5px;">
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<table border="0" cellpadding="6" cellspacing="0" width="99%"><tr><td class="alt2" style="border:1px inset;">2. i'm taking fenugreek, blessed thistle, & nettle capsules AND goat's rue tincture. is this the same, better than, or worse than only taking motherlove's more milk special blend? should i just add the special blend to my regimen or is that overkill (or overdose?)?</td>
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Personally, I would increase nursing and pumping sessions instead of adding more herbs or supplements. Getting more milk out is the best way to start making more (see this: <a href="http://www.bflrc.com/ljs/breastfeeding/MakeMilk.html" target="_blank">http://www.bflrc.com/ljs/breastfeeding/MakeMilk.html</a> )<br><br><div style="margin:20px;margin-top:5px;">
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<table border="0" cellpadding="6" cellspacing="0" width="99%"><tr><td class="alt2" style="border:1px inset;">i never seem able to satsfy my little guy. he can't get that full belly, milk drunk, going to sleep at the breast feeling. please help!</td>
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Babies are all different--some never act that way even though they are getting plenty to eat. What are your signs of low supply? How is he growing? Does he seem active, alert and healthy?
 

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I nurse or pump a minimum of 14 times a day. I've been counting. I'm a student, so I have to leave. i can't build a stash yet because i'm constantly using what milk i have to supplement.<br><br>
his weight gain is fine, but that's because i'm supplementing. on weekends, i try my best to only nurse, but he gets fussy, angry and pulls at the breast repeatedly to get more milk. he nurses every hour and can't fall asleep, so he's frustrated. his poops lessen. these are my concerns. am i right to be concerned?<br><br>
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1) how old is yur baby?<br><br>
2) how much water do your drink? sleep do you get?<br><br>
3) do you pump while he is nursing, after, or at a different time?<br><br>
4)do you have any help?
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;">on weekends, i try my best to only nurse, but he gets fussy, angry and pulls at the breast repeatedly to get more milk.</div>
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Sometimes a baby that gets angry, fussy and pulls at the breast is a sign of nipple confusion or bottle/pacifier preference.
 

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The baby's 5 weeks old.<br>
I'm probably not drinking/sleeping nearly as much as i need to; it's just me most of the time. my MIL comes to watch them while i'm at school, but usually i'm alone.<br><br>
i can't pump while i'm holding him. he's a big baby and i just don't have the strength to wrestle them both (he's squirmy and i'm so uncoordinated with the pump). my breasts are small, so i have to dedicate my efforts to keep the horns on while pumping.<br><br>
didn't know that about the nipple confusion. i'm trying to go this weekend without a bottle; i'll post more as the day goes on.<br><br>
thanks for the input, ladies. i really appreciate it.<br><br>
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Have you looked at <a href="http://www.kellymom.com" target="_blank">http://www.kellymom.com</a><br>
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There's a wealth of bf info there.<br><br>
Here too. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/luxlove.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="throb">
 

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Hi Eva,<br><br>
You will be able to make this work. Keep looking for help until you are successful!! It is out there!<br><br>
My suggestions are:<br>
The more you put him to your breast, the more you can rest assured that he is going to get as much milk as he needs. If you are supplementing with formula, you may need a couple of days to get your supply up to what he is taking, but unless there is some really strange problem, you should be able to do this. If he acts still hungry after feeding, put him to your breast again. As long as he is peeing enough each day, you probably don't need to worry that he is not getting enough - let him stimulate your body to increase your supply. I suggest ONLY giving him a bottle when you are not available. (Of couse, depending on how much you are supplementing, you may have to do this more gradually - you may want to speak to your local La Leche League.)<br><br><br><div style="margin:20px;margin-top:5px;">
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<div style="font-style:italic;">i'm so uncoordinated with the pump</div>
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You should definitely try to pump hands-free. There is a technique using ponytail holders looped around your bra (find on kellymom) and there are bras sold that you can wear that hold the pumps on (such as easy expressions). Or you can make them by cutting holes in sports bras apparently. This made pumping SO MUCH easier for me!<br><br><br>
Hope this helps!<br>
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Thanks, adrienne. I use the rubber band trick. My left breast is still so small that I have to use both hands to keep the horns in place. I only get about 1/4 to 1/2 ounce from that breast, max. The right breast does better.<br><br>
He's been extremely fussy and awake all day. Won't sleep, constantly nursing. I'm letting him, but he gets so frustrated and cries. He won't take a bottle, either. So, we keep going to breast and rocking and walking and breast, etc.<br><br>
I'm hoping it's the start of a growth spurt (he's due) so I can take advantage of it. I'm still worried about his latch, though. He clicks while he's nursing, so I think there are still some lingering latch problems which may be contributing.<br><br>
Thanks to everyone for all the advice and words of encouragement. I really need them right now. DH is in Iraq and I'm alone with the boys most of the time (in other words, when I'm not at school).<br><br>
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You're right that the clicking is a sign of poor latch. Do you have a LLL near you? A Leader might be able to help you straighten out his latch. Kellymom has good latching advice here: <a href="http://www.kellymom.com/bf/start/basics/latch-resources.html" target="_blank">http://www.kellymom.com/bf/start/bas...resources.html</a><br><br>
It's important to ehave a good latch in order to establish a good milk supply.
 

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I've had an LC out twice, and both times, DS2 latched on perfectly. Nuts! It's only when he's in a hurry or frustrated that he starts clicking. My let down is fast, so he pulls back and starts clicking. I try to get him to relatch, but I'm not always successful.<br><br>
If I honestly had time to go to an LLL meeting, I would. I know where and when they are around here; I just don't have the time in the week to go. Hell, I'd go for a massage if I had time (or accupuncture) to relax! <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/lol.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="lol"><br><br>
I'm still working on it. We're wrapped today. He won't sleep unless he's in my arms and he's willing to stay in the wrap today (not yesterday, though). Still not getting much sleep, but at least I'm not having to hold all his weight in my arms.<br><br>
Thanks again for all the great advice and tips!<br><br>
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For fast let down . . .<br><br>
You can try having his head higher so he is eating "uphill" - that can slow down the flow. I've been having the same issue . . . so I've also been having him bf just on one side at a time so he gets a balance of fore and hind milk. This seems to have settled his system a bit.<br><br>
Good luck!
 
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