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Wow. I didn't know prostitution and selling drugs were violent crimes. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/img/vbsmilies/smilies/dizzy.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="Dizzy">:
 

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We have cameras in our city...it has helped in a few cases to be able to get identification of the perpertrator when no witnesses were willing to come forward. Personally - I don't care...you might catch me getting my underwear out of my tush but thats about it.
 

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Hmmm... or you could just legalize drugs & prostitution and bring safety (and personal liberty) that way. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/irked.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="irked">:
 

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In Chicago you can tell you're in a "bad" neighborhood when you see the flashing blue strobe light on the police camera. Cuz' you know, crime doesn't happen in upscale areas. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/img/vbsmilies/smilies/eyesroll.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="roll"><br><br>
The CPD makes no apologies about using them to target drug deals and prostitutes.
 

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Wow. I didn't know prostitution and selling drugs were violent crimes. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/img/vbsmilies/smilies/dizzy.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="Dizzy">:</div>
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I am, in no way, an advocate for the Big Brother type of mentality that considers these cameras appropriate. I do not like them and would be much happier if they did not exist.<br><br>
However, I am not sure that I completely agree that selling drugs is not a violent crime. I think that the effect drugs can have on a person's mind and body can be likened to something rather violent. With that being said, I think it is also important to differentiate between types of drugs. MJ--Not necessairly violent. Crack and Meth--Pretty dang violent, IMO. As a social worker, I have seen the horrible effects of those two drugs on people.<br><br>
I think it is also important to consider the ramifications and increased potential for violence that comes with selling drugs. Shootings and murders are often the direct result of drugs and selling drugs. Notice I did not say always, but often. On the side of town in which I live, murders are common (5 or so per week) and most of them are found to be drug-related.
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;">However, I am not sure that I completely agree that selling drugs is not a violent crime.</div>
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A violent crime would be capturing the shooter on camera or the rapist. One dealer or runner gets caught, another just replaces them.<br>
That is not true about rapists and killers.
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;">A violent crime would be capturing the shooter on camera or the rapist. One dealer or runner gets caught, another just replaces them.<br>
That is not true about rapists and killers.</div>
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Perhaps it is because I have a horrible cold and my head is really fuzzy, but I do not quite understand what you mean. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/img/vbsmilies/smilies/sneeze.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="Sneeze">:<br><br>
I do not know what you mean by saying that a violent crime would be capturing the shooter on camera or the rapist. What do you mean by that?<br><br>
I agree that is a dealer or runner gets caught, there are plenty more people to step up to fill his or her position. By the same token, I think that if a dealer or runner kills or hurts someone and is incarcerated, there will be another to fill his shoes. Someone else waiting to fill the empty niche in the market, regardless if the empty niche is due to imprisonment because of the act of selling or a violent act.<br><br>
Even with rapists and killers, the cycle is apparently never-ending. Society can convict and imprison sexual offenders and murderers every day and still have many more left on the streets. I do think that, to an extent, murderers replace each other. Murderer A gets caught on Tuesday and arrested. However, another murder occurs Wednesday and Murderer B is arrested. The next day, another murder occurs. In a way, they do replace each other. I do not believe that all murders and sexual offenders will ever be off the streets, which means that they are being replaced.<br><br>
Not sure that I am clearly articulating what I am trying to think of, probably not. My head feels as though it is somewhere in the clouds right now.
 
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