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These are the three brands I'm looking at for laundry, dish soap, cleaning prodcuts, etc. We currently use Ecover dish tablets for our dishwasher and LOVE them. We use 7th Gen for dishsoap/handsoap, but I just found out it has SLES in it. We use Arm and Hammer in our laundry (we did BS for a while but it got too expensive) but the Arm and Hammer isn't cleaning at all.<br><br>
SO...people who use these 3 brands- which one is the best? I did a search, but had a hard time really finding a lot of info. Specifically I want a really good laundry detergent and stain remover and really good dishsoap that we can use as handsoap.<br><br>
And please, if you don't use these brands, please don't reply. I'm not really looking at anything else- just these specific brands.
 

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WHAT??? Oh man! I love Seventh Gen's lavender dish soap <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/img/vbsmilies/smilies/gloomy.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="Gloomy">:<br><br>
I've been using Ecover dish soap for awhile now and it's just as good as Seventh Gen. We do use it in a pump bottle as hand soap in the kitchen (Dr. B's in the bathroom foamy pumper) and it's just fine. I also use it to mop our kitchen floor and it works fine there too. I'd recommend it. No help with the laundry stuff--I'm still working on finishing off a huuuuge stash of Arm & Hammer.
 

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I use the Ecover liquid laundry soap and absolutely love it! I get coupons all the time ($1 off) from the company (sign up for the mailing list: <a href="http://www.ecover.com" target="_blank">www.ecover.com</a>) It's the only laundry soap I've used since we bought our new house in May and DH bought me an incredibly awesome set of LG front-loading washer/dryer. The Ecover laundry soap has a fragrance-free scent...very, very subtle, yet clean smelling. And it cleans like a champ (I buy it either from Whole Foods ($11.99 for the big, honking size, $5.99 for the smaller one). I absolutely recommend it.<br><br>
I used the Ecover dish soap for our dishes and love it. I use Dr. B's in our hand soap dispenser though (diluted with water, natch).<br><br>
I haven't tried the Ecover dishwasher tabs yet....<br><br>
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All those brands are excellent for laundry. I'd buy whichever is cheapest.<br><br>
I haven't tried Biokleen for dishes, but the other two brands are excellent.<br><br>
For general cleaning, the only one of those I've tried is Orange Plus from Ecos. Wonderful stuff! I dilute it 1:8 for spray cleaning of kitchen sink, counters, etc. We also use that spray for grimy areas of our hardwood floors: spray lightly, then rub with cloth or mop. Diluted a little less, in hot water with a shot of vinegar, it's great for mopping tile or vinyl, or for grimy seldom-cleaned things like the outside of the refrigerator. Full strength with steel wool, it is an excellent oven cleaner. (But rinse thoroughly unless you want your next baked goods to taste like burnt orange peel!) And it smells wonderful, in a very natural non-fakey way.
 

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I love Ecover powder for the dishwasher and the dish detergent for handwashing. Both work great.<br><br>
I recently purchased BioKleen for laundry and so far so good, but I've only used it twice.
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;">These are the three brands I'm looking at for laundry, dish soap, cleaning prodcuts, etc. We currently use Ecover dish tablets for our dishwasher and LOVE them. We use 7th Gen for dishsoap/handsoap, but I just found out it has SLES in it. We use Arm and Hammer in our laundry (we did BS for a while but it got too expensive) but the Arm and Hammer isn't cleaning at all.<br><br>
SO...people who use these 3 brands- which one is the best? I did a search, but had a hard time really finding a lot of info. Specifically I want a really good laundry detergent and stain remover and really good dishsoap that we can use as handsoap.<br><br>
And please, if you don't use these brands, please don't reply. I'm not really looking at anything else- just these specific brands.</div>
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dishwashing soap: we use method brand available at targets<br><br>
dishwasher detergent: love cover tablets and their rinse aid.<br><br>
hand soap: method brand at targets<br><br>
laundry detergent: method brand at targets. i add a scoop or so of baking soda for stain power.<br><br>
laundry stain remover: just bought ecover's. not sure how well it works yet.<br><br>
cleaning products: mainly vinegar and baking soap. we do have 2 all-purpose cleaning products from method too.<br><br>
i like the method products just fine. i stocked up on their laundry detergent (on clearance) so we still have quite some to go through.<br><br>
they work fine for me. i may switch from method to ecover or seventh generation so i can order at wholesale prices through frontier though.
 

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we use the ecover tablets, too.<br><br>
I have been using Ecos for laundry. I used Ecover, but I didn't think it worked as well and you need to use too much, imo.<br><br>
I also like the Earth Friendly products dish soap. I use a separate hand soap (burt's bes), but i imagine it would work just fine.
 

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I just started using Biokleen's laundry detergent based on the positive feedback I read about it and their BAC-OUT Stain & Odor Eliminator. I purchased the liquid laundry detergent (w/o the added oxygen bleach) to see how well the detergent performed on its own.<br><br>
So far, I'm <span style="text-decoration:underline;">very</span> pleased with its performance. It cleans every day dirt, grease and odor extremely well (for tough stains I recommend pre-treating with the BAC-OUT or adding Oxygen Bleach); and you only need two tablespoons per load! It has a very light and pleasant citrus fragrance that does not linger on your clothes after washing, but instead leaves them smelling very fresh.<br><br>
An added bonus: The Biokleen detergent leaves my laundry so soft that I no longer have to use fabric softener or add vinegar to my rinse cycle. This saves me money and time-less items to carry to the laundry room. This laundry detergent is a keeper for me.<img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/thumb.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="thumbs up">
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;">We use 7th Gen for dishsoap/handsoap, but I just found out it has SLES in it.</div>
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You have an objection to sodium lauryl ether sulfate? What's the nature of your objection, and compared to what else that might serve its function?
 

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It's a known skin irritant. My kids have very sensitive skin and eczema. I'm trying to cut out anything that can be an irritation to their skin until we can get their eczema under control.<br><br>
I know some people believe it's a carcinogen, but I don't have enough evidence to have an opinion one way or another. I'm just trying to do what's best for my children with the information I have.
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;">It's a known skin irritant. My kids have very sensitive skin and eczema. I'm trying to cut out anything that can be an irritation to their skin until we can get their eczema under control.</div>
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That's true, it is an irritant, but how <span style="text-decoration:underline;">much</span> of an irritant <span style="text-decoration:underline;">compared to</span> what's in the others?<br><br>
I know this well because an earlier version of <a href="http://users.bestweb.net/~robgood/lather.html" target="_blank">my foaming formula</a> contained some sodium lauryl ether(3) sulfate, but it was less irritating when I subbed disodium lauryl ether(3) sulfosuccinate for that and for some of the diammonium lauryl sulfosuccinate. But there are also <span style="text-decoration:underline;">more</span> irritating ingredients I could've used. So if you switch to something other than 7th Generation for hand soap on that basis, it'd better be something less and not more irritating.<br><br>
And it's tricky. For example, ether sulfates <span style="text-decoration:underline;">in combination with</span> betaines can be less irritating than some other surfactants that don't get the mutual irritation reduction with betaines. And sometimes different ways of measuring produce different rankings. In most tests, alpha olefin sulfonates are more irritating than ether sulfates, but at one test had them as less so.<br><br>
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<div style="font-style:italic;">Biokleen mamas- do you use it on diapers? The laundry detergent, that is.</div>
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I use Biokleen products for everything...dishes, dishwasher, soy cleaners for bathroom and kitchen and all laundry, including diapers (prefolds). I love the stuff. You can request coupons by emailing them.
 

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i like Ecover and Seventh Gen. dish washing liquid both.<br><br>
i think i heard on MDC that Bi O Kleen has something "bad" in it. Not sure what...i can't remember. I did use the Bac Out on mama pads and dh use 1 1/2 whole bottles to get the stains out of me birthing pallette. It worked really well. (i think he went a little overboard on the amount he uses, but oh well, the poor DH had to do laundry for a week straight trying to clean up that birthing mess)
 

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I think that in the premium Biokleen powdered laundry detergent there are enzymes, which can build up on your diapers and lead to diaper rash. But if I'm correct, the regular detergent doesn't have the enzymes.<br><br>
I think I'm going to give the Biokleen and Bac-Out a go. They have good reviews and are the cheaper of the three. If that doesn't work I'll try Ecos next. And I think I may try the Ecover dishsoap. We LOVE the Ecover dishwasher tablets, so I think I'll be pleased with anything Ecover (and thanks for the web address for the coupons!).
 

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Drugstore.com has all Bi-O-Kleen laundry products on sale now for 30% off. Just click on <i>Natural Store</i>, then click on <i>Natural Laundry and Fabric Care</i>.
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;">Drugstore.com has all Bi-O-Kleen laundry products on sale now for 30% off. Just click on <i>Natural Store</i>, then click on <i>Natural Laundry and Fabric Care</i>.</div>
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Thanks!
 

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the fragrance 'herbal formula with chamomille and marigold' smells really good
 
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