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Biotene contains 4 antibacterial enzymes which boost the defense system normally found in your saliva. Together, they help protect your teeth and gums.
Active Ingredients: Lysozyme (40mg), Lactoferrin (15mg), Glucose Oxidase (2,500 units), Lactoperoxidase (2,500 units)

Inactive Ingredients: Water, Xylitol, Hydrogenated Starch, Propylene Glycol, Hydroxyethylcellulose, Aloe Vera, Natural Peppermint, Poloxamer 407, Calcium Lactate, Sodium Benzoate, Benzoic Acid.
Anyone heard of this?
Is it any good?
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There are a couple ingredients that raise big red flags for me.

Proplylene glycol and xylitol. The PG should always be avoided since its petroluem derived and caused cancer. Xylitol when extracted from veg. is no big deal but it is almost always extracted from woodpulp with chemicals.

What about rinsing with probiotics?
 

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Xylitol when extracted from veg. is no big deal but it is almost always extracted from woodpulp with chemicals.
Really? I know the xylitol that I checked out was derived from corn. Hmmm. It would then be important to find out the source of whatever xylitol you are using. Cuz it sure has a lot going for it.
Definitely the "unknown" ingredients in it made me question.
 

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IMO, simple is better. If the salt water is working, go with it! The body will heal itself, the salt water is keeping the site clean while the healing happens. I would be more inclined to boost the system as a whole with Vitamin C and A.
 

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Hi Andrea.. Just make sure the probiotic has at least 5 strains of bacteria. It would be great if it had A.Salvarius. Just break open 3- 5 caps and put in a little water and apply to area.

Rinsing with a tea tree, clove essential rinse (diluted in colidial silver and/or echinacea ) also would work.

Sea salt rinse is super healing too!

And of course support immunity inside too...VIT A, C , EFA's and probiotics and ZINC daily.

take care
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MM, would you mind linking to the studies that show any of that "would work"?

Maybe I'm overthinking this, but does "would work" mean it does anything, or simply that it can be used?

As for the xylitol, "almost always .... with chemicals" -- do you have a list of the products that contain xylitol extracted in this way? Or companies that make use of it? I'd be interested in seeing the differences.

Andrea, Biotene products are wonderful. They are very safe (no "unknown ingredients" here
) and effective, especially for people who suffer from xerostomia ("dry mouth"). First Teeth toothpaste is from this company as well.

My opinion in general is that mouthrinses do little in the absence of effective oral hygiene, but can be a nice adjunct in specific cases. I'm with Malamamama on this one!

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I had maxmilofacial surgery (both jaws broken and reset and wisdom teeth removed surgically all in one fell swoop
) and all I ever used was sterile saline. It worked great! No infections, no yuckies
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My dental surgeon actually recommended the saline over anything else! I don't think the mouth rinse would *hurt*, but, if it ain't broke, don't fix it!


T Thanks Smilemomma. I was 18 at the time and had a lot more stamina
. It wasn't nearly as bad as it sounds (not nearly, but close
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Oh, yes. I recommend plain saline myself, and only if the patient wants to do it. We don't need chemicals to heal something like this.

And
T, I've known lots of people who've done this and it's certainly not a little thing. Definitely dealable, but still.


And I love your sig.
 

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As far as the information about xylitol, this is a common fact about xylitol and can be sourced several places but I will quote the most recent information derived from Alive magazine issue number 261 July 2004 Page 13

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Editors note: In our February 2004 issue our ariticle on artificial sweeteners, listed xylitol as an aritficial seetener. Although found in natural sources including fruits and vegetables , the low concentrations of xylitol make it uneconomic to produce commericially form these sources. Instead, it is mainly extracted form waste products from the pulp industry. Contact a product's manufacturer to determine how and where the xylitol in the product was obtained.
End quote.

With regards to the probiotic suggestion I suggest you start with this website. www.udoerasmus.com and follow the links to the probiotic section where there is information regarding the benefits of probiotics on dental hygiene.

With regards to the information regarding essential oils and oral health there are several books and websites for you to research. All essential oils contain a alcohol content and then special other consituents that make them highly infection fighting.
Start with any information written by Jeanne Rose or Jean Valnet, MD. They have very informative info regarding the chemical compostion of essential oils and why they have the action on the body that they do.

Finally I get the impression that my post irritated you, that perhaps you found it too vague. I get this impression due to the way you quote my statement of "would work". I applogize if I was not more specific, but I have answered many posts of Andrea's and felt that she would understand my suggestions.

And lastly, in my opinion, that of a herbalist, the deterioration of the dental health is a sign that the digestive system is in dire need of cleansing and toning; that there is too much acidity in the body and that the immune system is under attack. It is another angle, one that a holistic dentist will back up.
 

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It would be great if it had A.Salvarius.
What is A. salivarius? Is that a typo? (just curious! I've heard of L. salivarius and S. salivarious, but not 'A')
 

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Colleen, don't get all defensive. How can I find information if I don't ask?

I use herbs, homeopathy, probiotics, essential oils, and acupuncture every day in my dental practice. I'm on your side!

I'm sorry, but I just don't take anyone's word on science. It's either documented, or it's not. The magazine editor's note, I'm afraid, doesn't count as science. Neither does one guy who wrote a book (your link). I agree with much of what he purports, incidentally, and love probiotics for many purposes.

As far as my question about what "would work", I was trying to determine "work". Just that it's rinsable? Or that it has a therapeutic effect? Does Andrea's dh have an infection? I didn't see that, so I was wondering what the purpose was. Is his health deteriorating? Is it acidic? What is attacking his immune system?

I didn't intend to get your back up about this. I am a very precise person, and was looking for more information. I'm sorry I didn't find anything except perhaps to research on my own the potential benefit of merely rinsing with probiotics rather than consuming them.
 

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My backs not up.

I gave the most obtainable source of information regarding xylitol or should I say the most current item I have read. I will search for a more specific source.

I did not source Udo Erasmus's site for his information regarding his book, I sourced it as a place to obtain a PDF file regarding probiotics and within that is a section regarding the effects on dental health. In that section he offers references for his points and I though that would be a good place to start.

In regards to Andrea's dh, it is my understanding that there was a history of infection in the site.

I enjoy and trust the fact that you are precise.
 
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