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Anyone else hate this term and wish other birth professionals never used it? (Or perhaps even never felt this way?) I don't feel like my work is about "birth" per se, it is about helping families transform their experience of expanding their family. I frustrates me every time I hear it and I feel like it sounds like the person saying it is really just in the work for the high of seeing a birth, not for the women who are laboring and birthing. Anyone else hate it or is it just me?
 

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LOL! I have mixed feelings and it really depends on the situation. I have used the term in reference to myself and my crazy hunger for birth knowledge ... it's very much an addiction in my case ... I just can't get enough. In a professional capacity I don't use it at all as I do think it gives a bit of a hippy dippy flavor to what we do.<br><br>
But then "doula" bothers me too ... I don't actually like the word "doula" but I use it because that's what professional labor support is most widely recognized by.
 

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I'd never given it much thought. I guess if you think of most anything in "literal" terms, it might not be attractive? It does give me cause for thought, though!
 

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I can't stand the term "birth junky" it just seems to have a negative connotation for me. It makes me think of someone that is so addicted to something that it is to their own detriment.<br><br>
I prefer the term labor assistant to doula but doula is the most recognizable term.
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;">I can't stand the term "birth junky" it just seems to have a negative connotation for me. It makes me think of someone that is so addicted to something that it is to their own detriment.<br><br>
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I'm glad to hear that I am not alone in hating this term! It is such a huge turn-off for me if I hear someone else refer to themselves in this way. I hear it so often, though, that I started to wonder if I am the only one that hates it!
 

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It definitely sounds a little less professional to me, but definitely doesn't offend me. Like, I don't mind someone referring to themselves that way when they're talking about how much they enjoy birth videos on youtube or reading birth stories, but think it lowers the level of the discussion if a CBE, doula, or midwife used it as a key phrase to identify themselves. It doesn't offend me, but it doesn't scream "competent," either.
 

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I have often referred to myself as a birth junkie, not to potential clients, more when speaking with other birth workers. I never gave it strong consideration, and it felt okay. I do get a "high" from a birth, the power, the magic, the strenght of the woman...hence I used the term.<br><br>
It would be interesting to do some more casual inquiries on how this is perceived, because above all I am a professional, and it is important to have that be clear...<br><br>
interested in other thoughts, thanks for starting the discussion Megan.<br><br>
Sharon
 

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Hi Megan,<br>
I'm right with you on this one!<br><br>
You and Barbara Katz Rothman (PhD's think alike), this was a huge thread last year. The thread got started because Barbara Katz Rothman, was at the MANA conference in October, this was her topic:<br><br><b><span style="text-decoration:underline;"><span style="color:#000000;">"</span><span style="color:#000000;">Birth</span> Junkies: Working Through Our Relationship to Birth"</span></b><br><br><span style="color:#000000;">"Barbara Katz Rothman, PhD; Mary Doyle, CPM—The Midwives Model of Care vs. Birth Junkie. Who owns thebirth experience?</span><br><span style="color:#000000;">Strategies for maintaining a non-addictive relationship with midwifery, responding to clients concerns about their own birth addiction, and ways of responding to the “birth junkie” term in the birth/midwifery community."</span><br><br><br><a href="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/showthread.php?t=944622&highlight=birth+junkie" target="_blank">http://www.mothering.com/discussions...t=birth+junkie</a><br><br>
Maybe we can get you to give a talk to the Metro doula group one Sunday aobut language and it's importance when working with birth an breastfeeding women.
 

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I also hate this term.... I think the addiction connection is innappropriate and unprofessional.
 

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thank you so much for the link to that thread... good reading! lots of food for thought there. I've used the term before, but never liked the sound of it coming out of my mouth... well, I will never have to hear that again! Birth advocate or birth enthusiast sounds much more appropriate. So glad I'm not the only one who cringed whenever I would hear that.<img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/thumb.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="thumbs up">
 

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I love the term. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/shrug.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="shrug"> It just makes me think of someone who really can't get enough of birth...
 

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I'm another one who hates it. I find it offensive. I am a professional, not a junkie. I am not all about "seeing a birth" but about empowering women and families.
 

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I hate the term as well and never use it. I think it has very negative connections.
 

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I don't like the sound of it either. It makes birth service professionals seem like they're just "fans" of birth. Or fanatical. Junkie has connotations of being crazy.
 

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Once upon a time I really didn't mind the term, but one time it was used in a way to insult me and I haven't liked it since that time. The person used the term in a way to say that they didn't believe I was serious about studying or practicing midwifery.... that I was just a birth junkie or a big lover of birth, but not someone who really took it seriously at all. If someone uses the term towards me now, I don't get all offended or anything, but I don't like to use the term myself.
 

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I also cannot stand this term. It implies a negative depandancy relationship with birth. Birth isnt crack.<br>
Sure, birth hormones permiate us and often birth workers get an oxytocin rush when leaving a birth. It gives me the stamina to stay post partum and make it home before passing out into my bed.<br>
I am dedicated to my work and fascinated endlessly, and it is a big part of my life, but I am not a junky. Birth work is one important facet of myself, but not the only, and my relationship with it, I feel, is healthy. Boundaries are really important to me and somehow I feel this term challenges boundaries.<br><br>
Actually, I cant even really explain WHY I dont like this term but it has annoyed the heck out of me since the first time I heard it. A lot of the doulas from my DONA training use this term and it really gets under my skin. Its just not the way that my mentors taught me to perceive birth....<br><br>
I really wish I could attend that lecture. The first time I saw that some birth workers were addressing the issue I was quite pleased.<br>
Come to think of it, my midwifery school actually probably has guidelines discouraging the use of the term. My school is very careful about language and its implications and I am almost certain they would look unfavorably on the term.
 

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YES. THank you for pointing this out. I find that term soooo offensive! It seems to me that it totally demeans the effort and love that goes into each birth. It would be like calling an OB a Cesarean NUT. It is rude and offensive. But what really worries me is the fact that I am untrusted by some nurses because they've encountered this unprofessional "birth junkie"...she's a real problem for us all.<br><br>
I could see myself jokingly refering to myself as a junkie...but to actually be one is very unprofessional it seems.
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;">I love the term. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/shrug.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="shrug"> It just makes me think of someone who really can't get enough of birth...</div>
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This.<br><br>
Anything can be taken as unprofessional or offensive. Intent is important. Is someone saying this to discredit or is it being used to express passion.<br><br>
"Junky" is not exclusively used to describe unhealthy addicitions. I can be used to describe an extreme enthusist, partisan, etc... I'm a meditiation junkie... I love it, it gives me a high and I want to learn as much about it and do as much involving in my life as possible. I also see myself as a birth junkie. I cannot get enough of reading birth stories and books about birth, I think of nearly everything in life as it relates to birth and I hope to always be able to work in a field related to birth. I find incredible personal gratification in attending births as a doula and I'm not afraid to say it. It energizes me in a way that nothing else ever has... That DOES NOT = attending with my own agenda, just that I grow and gain everytime I am invited to attend a birth.<br><br>
I'm not sure how that makes someone else in the birth field look bad? I have a very strong internal locus of control, so I suppose that is why I'm missing the issue.
 

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I completely completely despise this term. It seems very emotionally detatched and manic like. I have an ex best friend who said this all the time and it made me cringe every single time.
 
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