Is anyone familiar with the Birthing From Within Mentor Training? I'm really interested in following their CBE philosophy, but their program seems awfully expensive, so I want to do as much research as possible before making my decision.
I read the book late in pregnancy and wished I had found it sooner and been able to take one of their classes. They sound amazing!<br>
From what I understand so far the entire certification process (both levels 1 & 2) is around $1,350, if you pay all at once. I guess level 1 on it's own is $700-800. I think the level 2 workshop is $800, but I'm not sure about the homestudy portion.<br>
Another thing I was concerned about was the location of their workshops. I live in Northern CA and the only level 1 workshops left this year are in NH and San Diego CA. So we could either drive for 12 hours or try to save money for a flight. Both would be a little hard at this point, so I'm not sure what to do, although I heard they may offer level one as a distance learning program - no workshop required - sometime this fall.
I am interested in hearing from mentors as well. We took Bradley classes when I was pregnant, which were great because I am an information vacuum, but I found myself going back to the Birthing from Within book many times near the end.<br><br>
I am looking at many CBE options, including ALACE and Bradley, but BFW is really tugging at me.<br><br>
Anyone out there a mentor and want to give some perspective?
i just wanted to say that this program allowed my vba2cs and i love it! good luck to all of you! <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/smile.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="smile">
I agree with the other posters here. I would love to do that program, but it is just too expensive to be feasible. If their prices don't come down, I'll have to wait until my business is better established before I pursue it. Until that point, I plan to certify with ICEA and as an independant person, I can be free to integrate Birthing From Within philosophy into my classes. I find it upsetting that a program so great at empowering women is so far out of reach for so many of us!
I find it interesting on the BFW website there are very very few Certified Mentors listed. However, they do say somewhere that in order to GET certified, you have to teach a BFW class..they also mention that Pam is not certified. So I think they are fairly open to letting you use their book and philosophy.<br><br>
I also used BFW for my second birth and thought it was brilliant. I'm currently working on my CBE from CAPPA but also want to be able to teach a BFW class once I am up and established.<br><br>
Ironically, Pam herself is teaching a BFW for Parents class in NYC one day in December. I soooo want to go, but I'm not pregnant nor planning to ever be pregnant again. And I doubt that taking the class would count towards certification, but it sure would be powerful.
I've wanted to do this program since I started looking into programs in 2002. I worried that the cost of the program wouldn't be easily recovered in my area, which is very entrenched in either Bradley P) or medicated. I love the book and loan it to just about every client. It's a well-worn copy by now!<br><br>
Being a BFW Mentor is DEFINITELY on my "someday" list, though...
Birthing From Within is on the more expensive side. I did my first training in 2002. Despite having moved to a new state less than 18 months ago, I am now currently teaching classes with 4-6 couples, who are paying between $200-300 each (my area has a high cost of living!). For a weekend class, I am making about $1500. Private classes provide additional income. Midwives, doulas, and prenatal yoga teachers love my classes and I get a lot of referrals from them.<br><br>
I cannot stress enough that Birthing From Within is so much more than learning how to teach childbirth classes! The first workshop was life-changing for me! Truly! The book, wonderful though it is, is just a drop in the bucket compared to the amazing discussions, processes, visualizations, and perspectives of the 20 hour workshop.<br><br>
The home study period has been equally amazing. I had my own personal advisor, whom I could call or email for support. Now there are monthly conference calls on various topics. This organizaton is as much (if not more) about personal growth...for me as a woman/doula AND for the expectant moms and dads I work with.<br><br>
There are not a whole lot of Certified Mentors because there are 2 levels of training. Due to the intense personal work that I needed and wanted to do, it took me almost 3 years to complete the whole program. But it has been the most transformational and rewarding thing I have ever done.<br><br>
There is nothing out there that offers what BFW does. I am so glad to be a part of it.<br><br>
Greetings birth junkies!<br>
I am a Certified Birthing From Within Mentor and Advisor to mentors journeying through the certification process. I would like to validate the feelings that have been shared here in this forum about time and money commitments that BFW request of women. It is a long process and it does take a finacial commitment. That being said, I'd also like to motivate each and every one of you to continue on the path of BFW and follow what your hearts have already told you.<br>
A little background: Pam began to really give birth to BFW along with the birth of her first son. Her son was birthed by Cesarean and it was about that time that Pam discovered that she needed to learn about herself what it was she needed to know to give birth like a mother and not a midwife. Pam was also strongly influenced by M. Odent who would simply spend Tuesday evenings with his clients and their family and friends by a piano singing - as questions would come up they'd answer them and entrain the families and friends into the mothers' wishes for birth! Oh so brilliant!! Now, I'm really synopsizing the creation of BFW but it's really more enticing to hear Pam tell it anyway!<br>
Secondly, BFW is not just childbirth education. This class or immersion that we mentor is about approaching your birth as a rite of passage, knowing ahead of time that you WILL be taken to depths never before experienced, embracing that idea, and then loving your process for all that it brings you...*ahem*...no matter the outcome. We initiate women and men into parenthood and we serve them up entrees and desserts that are so tasty that cannot forget them in labor...and sometimes we even do that separately so that each parent is really experiencing his and her rite of life. We even celebrate with them postpartum when we welcome them back...back from the most difficult thing they've ever done. We welcome back those who are smiling and intact, those with scars and those who might even be empty handed. And we take this time to remind them how what they learned to prepare for birth will now prepare them and be used in parenting.<br>
It's just so lovely, gals. There is no better way to prepare for birth...for life...and for what comes next.<br>
Pam's workshops and retreats are the therapy women are looking for today. Part of why the process is long is that Pam will not have someone mentoring to parents who is not ready. She, herself, must journey, must let go, must find her answers. And Pam and her facilitators show you how!<br>
So, in closing, a big, BIG two thumbs up for me!<br>
Barbara in TN
Ooooh Im going to the level one training in two weeks. Im even more excited after that post<img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/smile.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="smile">
Thrilled to see this thread - I know how deeply birthing from within has touched the lives of women in my community (Vancouver, BC), both clients and birth professionals, and it is good to know how many future mentors are out there, waiting for the right time.<br><br>
I picked up Birthing From Within when I was pregnant with my first babe. I had already been teaching prenatal classes and working as a doula for years, and when I first read the book my entire perspective on pregnancy and birth shifted. I attended the level one in 2002 when my first was five months old, and was certified in the fall of 2003. As other mentors have described above, it has been a life changing experience for me, deepening not only my practice with pregnant clients, but also my sense of who i am and how i want to live in this world.<br><br>
I taught my first class with some skepticism, not sure if I would sign up for the certification program. After a single session, the difference i saw in those couples was enough to convince me that this was my life path! I have mentoring for four years now, and despite certification three years ago, i am continually growing and changing as a mentor. One of the most rewarding aspects of Birthing From Within's program is the ongoing mentor development and support, including a phenomenal online mentor discussion board and monthly conference calls.<br><br>
I understand that it is expensive, and may seem out of reach. But it is an investment, and one that comes along with tremendous support and community. I did ICEA certification process before entering the BFW program, and received little more than a binder with some worksheets. My process with BFW has included personal support of the advisor team, in depth homework involving journaling, experiential learning, book reports, etc..., participation on the mentor discussion board, and several workshops offered in wonderfully nurturing places that allowed for me to open in ways that i could not have imagined when I began this journey.<br><br>
After four years of mentoring, I now offer 4-5 workshops each month, and am able to earn enough to support my family even without including my dh's income. So yes, the investment has been well worth it! It takes time to establish yourself, but people respond so passionately to what we offer that the word of mouth will carry you over time.<br><br>
You can visit the birthing from within website at <a href="http://www.birthingfromwithin.com" target="_blank">www.birthingfromwithin.com</a> to learn more.<br><br>
Vancouver, BC <a href="http://www.dancingstarbirth.ca" target="_blank">www.dancingstarbirth.ca</a>
From the BFW website:<br>
"We have more workshops planned for 2007, including: San Francisco, Los Angeles, Minneapolis, Austin, Bristol (UK), and London (UK). Stay tuned for more information!"<br><br><span><span style="font-size:x-large;"><span style="font-family:'Arial Black';">AUSTIN! I CAN ACTUALLY GET TO THAT ONE!!!!</span></span></span><br><br>
Now, for the money...
I've been involved with BFW training since 2002, and they've been amazingly flexible accomidating life changes that I've gone through since then, and that includes financial flexibility.<br><br>
As far as the price tag goes... given that it's much more than a set of instructions and a toolbelt, and instead teaches practices that'll impact *you*, as well as being life-changing for expectant moms...I'd say it's well worth it.<br><br>
Nothing else out there really gives parents the skills to be ready for labor physically and emotionally, from inside themselves. BFW doesn't hand them data and say "do this and you'll get through labor", it shows them the strength they already posess, and how to tap into that.
Oh, I sooooo want to become a BFW mentor! I was signed up to go back in March, but because of money issues, I didn't make it. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/img/vbsmilies/smilies/gloomy.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="Gloomy">: But reading this makes me want it even more. Maybe in 2007! *crossing fingers*
Here's my quick take on my journey with the Birthing From Within process so far:<br><br>
Level One Training - $350<br>
Travel Expenses and Room and Board - $250<br>
Level One Homestudy and Advisor Fee - $120<br>
Books for Required Reading - $100<br>
Level Two Training, Room and Board - $1088<br>
Travel Expenses - $300<br>
Seeing myself grow and change and reach out with compassion in ways I never thought possible and watching the women I teach develop a deep and powerful sense of joy, openness, readiness and strength - PRICELESS<br><br>
It has cost a lot of money, but I don't regret a single cent of it. I couldn't put a price on the positive impact it has had on me and on so many others.<br><br>
And as for the more practical matters, it was three and a half years ago when I first decided that I wanted to teach Birthing From Within classes. We were making about $300 less each month than our set expenses. There was absolutely NO WAY I could have afforded to do this. But, then my husband got a new job, I started working as a doula, and after taking my Level I, started teaching. And somehow it's all worked out and I have been able to pay for the majority of my expenses with my birth work. I'm not entirely sure how we managed it, but we did.<br><br>
So, it may not be feasible for someone right now. Reality is reality. But, I'd encourage you to not give up on the idea. In the long run, it will work out.<br><br>
And I'll echo the comments above about value. BFW certification costs so much because it's worth so much, even when you put the intangibles aside. You will have a constant support system comprised of your advisor, continuing opportunities for learning and development of new skills, access to a wonderful mentor discussion board where you can pick the brains of mentors around the world day and night, monthly conference calls to review and learn new processes and ideas, newsletters, retreats... It is just really set up to help you succeed.
I just want to say thank you for all of the recent activity on this thread. BFW is simmering in me, simmering until I can figure out how to make it happen. Reading these posts has moved thoughts more to the forefront and makes it sound not only doable, but that it is definitely worth it.