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wanted to know what everyone thought of this, i really dont want to do it- testing for lead and full blood workup- can the pedi call cps for delaying vaccines and avoiding bloodwork? it makes me sick to have to feel like I am doing something wrong by wanted to protect my son from these unnecessary medical procedures at such a young age.
 

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I vax (delayed) and I wish I'd skipped this with DS. There was no need for lead testing (we've only lived in new constructions) and a CBC was meaningless and useless for a healthy baby. I'd absolutely pass on it.
 

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Well, I haven't vaxed yet but I did it. My daughter is slightly anemic. Playing phone tag with doc in terms of determining the numbers and what it means. My daughter seems quite healthy aside from bouts of illness though.
 

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Well I don't vax but I'm certainly not anti-testing. So yeah I do the anemia and lead work up. I don't vax because I believe the vaccines could potentially damage my child. Using that logic, I do the blood work up because having dangerous levels of lead or being anemic can damage my child.
 

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I haven't done the lead screening yet, but the doc will order it at the next visit. We live in a 100 year old house, so I'll definitely do the testing.
 

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I'm also anti-random testing of healthy humans. Seems so big-brotheresque to me, too. We said we'd like to research it before we made any decisions and left without.<br><br>
If you're concerned about the house, there are test strips to test the paint, and if you're concerned about iron, I suppose you could talk to the ped about your DS's diet. Both are less invasive.
 

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You can get blindsided by lead exposure. It happened with my gd. But I think they did the lead test after they realized she had been exposed...I'm not sure.<br><br>
Anyway, lead exposures can come from soil, too. I knew someone whose children got excess lead from eating veggies from their garden in Chicago. Heavy traffic with leaded gasoline over many years had left their garden soil toxic. Who would have thought?<br><br>
So, if you are absolutely sure that your child has had no lead exposure then skip the test, but if there are any doubts, it isn't a big thing and it could be very valuable.
 

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If they can find a vein, it appears that the regular blood draw from a vein in the arm is LESS painful than the finger prick. (DS has had both, and it seemed like the finger prick hurt him more.) They do hate being held still for the regular blood test (typically, my kids have sat on my lap for those draws). Also, there's a chance that the finger prick test might be inaccurate (false positive of lead exposure) due to touching things beforehand (like crayons? or something like that).<br><br>
I would recommend doing this--even if your house doesn't have lead paint, friends' houses might.
 

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my ped doesn't do a full panel but tests for anemia and lead.<br><br>
my friend was blindsided when her son came back w/ a 14 lead level. they live in a new home, have all natural toys, etc.<br><br>
to me, it's worth it to do these 2 tests, esp b/c there are no symptoms.
 

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ok thanks for the input, it looks like I will be doing the test- I hope it hurts me more than him!
 

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There can be lead in tons of products today that many aren't aware of...Those soft insulated lunch totes, cooler bags, toys. I think lead paint is probably the least likely exposure these days.
 

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We don't vax and didn't do the blood work at 1 y/o. Our doctor was supportive of our decision.
 

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I was going to have DH take my DD in as I was afraid to see her in pain. But circumstances ended up with me taking her. I held her on my lap. I had my eyes scrunched closed. I was waiting to have to hold down a thrashing screaming child. The lob. leans in to start the procedure. Then pulls back. I thought something was wrong and he didn't do it. Turns out, he had the needle in and was pulling blood. My daughter didn't even flinch. NO reaction whatsoever. She just calmly watched him and was curious about who he was and what was going on.<br><br>
So it CAN go so easy. I, too, have heard of stories of kids coming back overloaded with lead of unknown origin (not from any paint in house).<br><br>
This is taking something out of their body, not putting in and as tests and procedures go, it's pretty benign. And it might be good, who knows, to have a nice baseline of your child's "health" at that level. Glad you are going to do it. I would have been upset at the forum if people urged against doing it.
 

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I do not vax our kids, before I knew about vax reactions my oldest had one and it had taken us years to overcome the damage. So we do not vax, but we do have lead checks for the first 2 years and I will have a cbc done. I am very glad that we had a lead check for our youngest, it was a 12, we live in a house that has no lead, it was most likely from soil and other random exposures. I know that he was not exposed in our house, dh and I have tested every available surface and they are all negative, but we live in CT and our soil is not so good.<br>
I am also happy that we had a cbc done last month because it has shown us that Finn is indeed sick and we now have a test to compare to when we go in to the rheumatologist and other specialists this month, if we didn't have a previous cbc to compare to we would not have as much information to help us figure out what we are looking at. I also know that sometimes childhood illnesses such as leukemia often have no symptoms and the way they are usually detected are with routine bloodwork such as the 1yo cbc.<br>
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<div style="font-style:italic;">There can be lead in tons of products today that many aren't aware of...Those soft insulated lunch totes, cooler bags, toys. I think lead paint is probably the least likely exposure these days.</div>
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I was in Ross one day and my DD was chewing on my keys. Aside from the germs, not a big deal to me. One of the employees went by and she told me that DD was chewing on the keys. I said, "yeah, it's ok." She grimaced and said, they told her that when she took her child to the doctor that there is lead in keys. My DD chews on my keys all the time. It's something I give her to keep her busy while I shop.
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;">If you're concerned about the house, there are test strips to test the paint, and if you're concerned about iron, I suppose you could talk to the ped about your DS's diet. Both are less invasive.</div>
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Everyone's makes their choices, but as folks pointed out, lead can come from many sources. And my DD has a decent diet for a 15 month old. And she is happy, energetic and fantastic looking. And she is slightly anemic and I wouldn't know if it hadn't been for a blood test. Having this information is making me more aware of focusing on getting her to like foods high in iron.
 

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I don't vax but I don't have a problem with blood draw. I don't believe we need it but it is one of those things I hope don't have known side effects like vaxes (they just taking blood instead of putting stuff in him).<br><br>
I just food out my 20month old is slightly anemic. I think I hear the numbers should be 11-14 (I see some say the lowest is 12 others 10) he is an 8. His 12month own was fine and he didn't even had solids yet, now he is eating he is anemica<img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/img/vbsmilies/smilies/dizzy.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="Dizzy">: I do know he does need more iron rice foods. I think next time I will just get the one anemic test and later just gave the next child some floridax as to not worry about getting tested a 2nd then a 3rd time. They checked his iron a 2nd time because he is bowlegged so they want to check his vit. D levels and decided to just check his iron again.
 

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Let us know how it goes!<br><br>
We haven't done any vaccines and haven't seen Gwen's doctor since she was a month old. But we asked our dr to call in a lab order for iron and lead test, which she did, without even seeing Gwen! (I asked for me too, so we will both have both tests.)<br><br>
We live in an old house and have covered (painted) as much lead paint as we can find, but don't have the $$ to replace all of the windows that I think might be generating paint dust (hopefully not leaded). And our diets are pretty low in meat, so I want to make sure she's getting enough iron.<br><br>
I will be relieved to have the information from this test. I'm trying to think of anything else to test for, that would be relevant to our particular life style and situation, as long as she's having the blood drawn.
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;">I was in Ross one day and my DD was chewing on my keys. Aside from the germs, not a big deal to me. One of the employees went by and she told me that DD was chewing on the keys. I said, "yeah, it's ok." She grimaced and said, they told her that when she took her child to the doctor that there is lead in keys. My DD chews on my keys all the time. It's something I give her to keep her busy while I shop.</div>
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Yep lots of keys have lead in them.
 
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