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Did anyone read this article? It was the cover story of the Boston Globe magazine that discusses why women would voluntarily have a drug-free delivery. It suggests at the end that women who choose this way are trying to bring attention to themselves as a heroine and be part of a "highly selective sorority". This same doctor wrote an article about how breastfeeding is overrated after his wife couldn't breastfeed.

http://www.boston.com/news/globe/mag..._lode_of_pain/
 

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Blah! Only a man could have written that!! What a disturbing interpretation of natural childbirth.
 

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Yes! I read it first thing this morning with my coffee and I was so pissed!!!!!!!!
I'm so pissed I can't even articulate my thoughts clearly yet. He is such an arrogant a-hole; the article would have been useful if he had started with his query that he throws in at the end "why do some women choose not to use medical intervention?" and gone from there to try to answer the question. Instead, he tries to "prove" himself superior and correct using anecdotes and hiding behind medical science. Ugh. I can't stand it. I really can't.
 

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Yeah, my mom warned me about that article and after hearing her description of it, I decided not to read it. My blood pressure's high enough already, thanks.
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Originally Posted by cgmom
Yes! I read it first thing this morning with my coffee and I was so pissed!!!!!!!!
I'm so pissed I can't even articulate my thoughts clearly yet. He is such an arrogant a-hole; the article would have been useful if he had started with his query that he throws in at the end "why do some women choose not to use medical intervention?" and gone from there to try to answer the question. Instead, he tries to "prove" himself superior and correct using anecdotes and hiding behind medical science. Ugh. I can't stand it. I really can't.
I've been pissed all day too!!! To think such a shallow article ended up as a cover story is outrageous!
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You know....

A year ago, I was natural-leaning but still trusted doctors. Now almost everything I read by so many of them seems to be more about proving themselves correct, infallible and necessary.
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When it comes down to it, it really is "the economy, stupid." Let's take nonmedicated birth to its logical conclusion. If medical birth were used only when it was truly needed (and don't get me wrong-- sometimes it is!!!), how many anesthesiologists, L&D nurses, ultrasound technicians, and obstetricians would be out of a job? How much would the profits of the manufacturers of pitocin, cytotec, cervidil, the GD sugar drink, and all the painkillers decline? There's an entire blog out there, ostensibly to "debate" about the relative safety of homebirth, that amounts to nothing more than an obstetrician bashing natural-birth advocates.

I'm at the point where my gut is NOT to trust-- I've been burned so many times, mainly by specialists. I love my FP and loved my last FP (who switched to emergency medicine), and I think in general emergency medpros of all types are lifesavers. But honestly that's about it.
 

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I read the article and have to agree - leave it to a man to write that. Sad thing is, now more people will probably be pushing for medicated births. Who cares how a woman choses to labor, as long as it's safe for her and her child/children?
 

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His whole perspective is that women choose natural childbirth because of how we are perceived by others - as heroic. I know my choice has nothing to do with how anyone sees me. It is about my experience and the best thing for my baby. I so resent his whole comparison to "rationalizing" pain with the way religion explained pain. Like we are zelots of a new order. And then he fiinishes off by saying that pain is an archaic vestage of reptilian or lower mammalian life. Is he daft? As a doctor, you'd think he'd understand that pain has a specific role in biology. Talk to any woman who was so numb she had to have a mirror and someone else telling her when to push and how ineffective it was to understand that when we numb the senses, we lose our ability to respond effectively to our bodies.

If the article had been in some esoteric periodical, whatever. But on the cover of the Globe. I feel like I'm in the twilight zone more and more these days.

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Heidi
, mama to Yarrow Rose (4/17/04)
and to Jerry Sage any day now, at home with NO MEDS!!!
 

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I'll have to let my sister, who homebirthed my niece, that she was really just competing in Extreme Childbirthing as though it was a contest.

I knew I shouldn't read the article, but I did anyway. I was glad to know that there are no downsides to epidurals!
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What a buffoon as a writer. Why don't they do some stories on home birth!
 

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Originally Posted by HeidiYarrowMom
UGH!

Heidi
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and to Jerry Sage any day now, at home with NO MEDS!!!
I'll double UGH 'ya Heidi!!!
 

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I so resent his whole comparison to "rationalizing" pain with the way religion explained pain.
Especially strange, seeing that I'm an atheist!
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Originally Posted by HeidiYarrowMom
I so resent his whole comparison to "rationalizing" pain with the way religion explained pain.

Ok, I just read this article and I had to laugh at the comparison of women who opt for natural birth with Christ and suicide bombers!???

"It's an interesting secular variation on a religious narrative where unbearable pain suddenly transmutes to boundless joy - just as it is believed that the brutal crucifixion of Christ led to the opening of heaven's gates, or, for that matter, just as men blowing themselves to bits with suicide bombs think they will immediately appear in a paradise of virgins."

Is that just a tad bit over the top? (I know it isn't a direct comparison, but just putting that out there to get people fired up!)
 

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Huuuuuuuuuuuuurrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrl.

ETA: My response, although I would have liked to have mustered the energy for a better one:

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What an offensive load of crap. I chose a drug-free birth because it was the safest choice for my baby and for me. I have seven graduate-level courses in research methodology and statistics, and I wrote my dissertation about childbirth. I am extremely well-educated about this topic; moreso than you are if you think the only reason to birth naturally if to have and enjoy the martyr experience. Your articles tend to be defensive rationalizations for the choices your wife makes, but they are not in line with research and have no business being published as fact.

Dr. Rachel ...
 

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Choosing not to read that article, don't want to waste my time even reading that trollop!
 

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Wow, I didn't know it's heroic to have a natural birth. I had my first baby UC. Yay, I must be a SUPERHERO!!!!!!!!! (oops, is it hero or heroine? lol)
 

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I haven't read it, yet... I just saw the cover and was already composing a response in my mind.
: I want to read it and then write a scathing letter... if I can make time between stuffing boxes, reading picture books and pushing swings... I'm sure I can find a way to put my own experiences into a good letter... if/when I do, I'll post it here.

We can bombard the Globe with letters; they'll have to print at least a couple of them!
 

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You know, I loved my epidural, and I still found this to be the most patronizing article I remember reading in quite some time. According to the author the only reason a woman would want to forego epidurals would be if she was completely misinformed about the risks involved.
: Cause it's completely safe! And yet MA has a 30% c-section rate. Hmmm... wonder why?
 

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I couldn't stop myself:

Dear Boston Globe Magazine Editor:

Dr. Darshak Sanghavi's article "A Painful Choice: Why do some women still embrace a drug-free delivery?" completely misses the mark.

Given Dr. Sanghavi's credentials as a medical doctor, he could have used his forum as the cover story of the Boston Globe Magazine to have a legitimate discussion about the different models of maternity care and why they produce such dramatically different results.

Instead of having a medical discussion as to why Ina May Gaskin's midwifery approach results in a 2% caesarean rate versus the standard obstetrical model used in the United States that results in an approximately 30% caesarean rate (along with plenty of malpractice suits), he chose to play amateur psychologist, sociologist and anthropologist and concludes that women who choose natural childbirth are trying to be a "heroine", "create drama" and gain entry into a "highly selective sorority".

Dr. Sanghavi is the same doctor who chose to reasearch the inconclusiveness of the benefits of breastfeeding only after his wife could not successfully breastfeed. (Boston Globe 2/3/04) I wonder if this recent article is in response to his wife's non-inclusion into the "highly selective sorority" of natural childbirthers. Although I respect his dedication to his wife, please don't subject the rest of us to these shallow and narrow conclusions
 
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