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hi all...tomorrow dd will be seeing her new ped for her 6 mo well-baby visit. the reason we are starting with someone new is our old ped wouldn't continue to see dd if we stopped vaxing or delayed. she said our child would be a risk to others in the office and she couldn't do that to her patients. whatever. she told me that since we vaxed dd at 2 and 4 months (<img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/redface.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="Embarrassment"> i didn't know i had a choice and i feel soooooooo badly that i was such a follower and hurt my dd) if we delayed vaxing then those vaxes she already had would no longer work. so....now that i'm seeing the new doc i'm wondering how i should approach telling her where we stand on vaxes. i'm still not completely sure where i stand, but i still have lots of research to do and i refuse to have anyone put anything in her body i haven't thoroughly researched. that being said, what do i tell her? is she going to expect to vax her? is it true that if i decide to delay vaxes the 2 and 4 month vaxes no longer work? was she just trying to scare me? i'm leaning more towards not vaxing, but i'm getting alot of pressure from the whole darn world <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/guilty.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="guilty"> they are trying to make me feel like a bad mama...anyway, what do i say??? any suggestions?? TIA!
 

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Just tell her that you would like to research vaccinations a little more before making the decision. If she starts to drill you about it repeat yourself. Tell her that you dont feel comfortable making such a big decision until you know more about it.<br>
Another thing, is there any reason why you HAVE to go to the doctor? If there is nothing wrong with your child I see no point in going to the regular checkups if you have to get so nervous about doctors trying to push vaccines on your child.
 

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seeing as she's a new ped, i thought it would be a good idea to go in and meet her, that's all. just in case there's an emergency or something, at least she'll have met dd, kwim?
 

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Your ped was giving you misinformation. Even the CDC says that if you stop vaccinating you can pick it up at any time again and continue where you had stopped.<br><br><b>What I would tell the ped is that we won't be vaccinating. Period.</b><br><br>
This is your child and if your child suffers a vaccine reaction, what do you think your ped would say to you?<br><br>
You are coming to him for his services. You don't have to explain if you choose not to take some of his serviced. Vaccines are not a law they are simply a suggestion. Only when your child goes to school do you need to explain, in other words, sign an exemption.<br><br>
If he give you a hard time, pick up your child and leave. Don't let him treat you with disrespect. Tell him right off the bat that you demand respect. You want his opinion but not his bullying.<br><br>
Good luck. BTW, do you need to take your child to wbv? We don't do them at all.
 

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I don't understand that at all. If there is an emergency she will not remember your dd in her healthy state. She will simply do what needs to be done. Besides you would take your child to the ER. This ped may not even see your child.
 

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I'll tell you what I did..I simply stopped going, that was 4 years ago. I have not had a sick child in those 4 years, not even a mild fever, nothing. If there is an emergency, go to the ER. Once you get over the fear and trust yourself, you'll be fine. Don't be afraid of fever, etc and trust your DD body and your instincts.
 

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First off unless there is a reason you need a ped I'd go with a family physician instead, the ones we have used haven't had the god mode going on like the peds I've been exposed to. Second off I only took dd to the Dr when she was sick enough to need medical attention or I wanted their advice, we stopped doing well child visits. It's pretty easy to avoid the whole vax topic when the child is sick, since you are focused on that and it's a convienant excuse for not allowing vax at that moment. Last thing was the few times I was pressed I took the chicken way out and told them we got vaxes at the county health dept. Since we were uninsured when dd was little they never questioned it.
 

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when i found my new ped, before I even went in, I made a phone call. it went like this: "are you accepting new patients?" "yes." "do you take such and such insurance?" "yes." "do you have a problem seeing children who aren't vaxed?" "no, not at all."<br><br>
personally, I wouldn't even bother getting into the "i'm not sure if we will vax or not" discussion with your ped. First of all, more likely than not, all the ped will do is reassure you how safe vax is and why you should do it, and second of all, if you do get a religious exemption and you tell your ped you're not vaxing for any other reason than "it's against my religion," you may jeopardize that exemption if they really want to go after you. You can be unsure, and just tell your ped you're not vaxing, period. if you ever do decide to vax in the future, it's not like they will hold it against you. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/thumb.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="thumbs up">
 

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This is what I recommend:<br><br>
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In accordance with the provisions of [Your State} Public Health Law [Your State Health Law Section #], we hereby affirm that the administration of vaccines, immunizing agents and PPD tuberculosis skin testing to our child, [Child's Name], is contrary to our genuine and sincerely held personal religious beliefs.<br><br>
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Give this to your new ped and refuse to discuss the subject. You can always change your mind later if you decide to vax. Do not mention delaying, researching, or ask questions about diseases or vax ingredients.<br><br>
Keep a copy of this letter in your handbag in case you need to take your child to the ER. Each time you go see your pedi, take a signed copy with you since things like this tend to fall out of medical files. Do NOT sign any waiver the doc may ask you to sign. This letter should suffice for their lawyers if they are trying to cover their butts.
 

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We have not made DS's 15 month appt because I'm not ready to face the Dr yet. Could you cancel? It sounds like maybe you should, or as one of the PP's mentioned just call and ask before hand, that way you can cancel and find a new doc or go ahead and see the doc. I'm just not going back until I become more confident in myself not to cave..which who knows when that will be. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/winky.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="Wink"><br><br>
Good luck.
 

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My almost 4 yo has been to 2 doctors appts in his life. One at about 4 months since we were about to leave the country for a year just to have a check up. That was at a FP office where they were non-vax friendly and then when he was 2 and had whooping cough. I only had to tell the doc we weren't avaxing family.<br>
My 6yo dd has been once with an ear infection and twice to the ER she stuck a peanut in her nose at around age 2 and just last month had an extremely high fever that wasn't coming down. They did ask at this last visit and I simply told them we do not vax. One nurse said what will you do when she starts school. I told her we homeschool. I wish I had educated her on exemption. I am going to print something up to have on hand. Because honestly in an emergency the last thing I want to do is defend my reasoning for not vaxing.<br>
I like the pp idea of having a copy of your exemption in your purse. Here in Idaho it can be medical, religious, or philosophical reasons for exemption. The law also states they cannot inquire anymore beyond that.<br>
DD has been to the clinic for follow up and she also stuck a bead in her ear and had to go in fo rthat. Both times they didn't ask about vaxs
 

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ok...so i went. i really wanted to meet her in case i needed her for some reason. i am a new mama and i guess until i feel i can trust myself more, i like knowing there is someone out there, just in case. anyway...i think i got REALLY lucky! dd's ped is amazing. when i filled out the forms at check in, i didn't sign anything for the vaxes. no one asked me about it. when i saw the ped she asked me...i said i wasn't going to. her response was, i don't blame you! she then went on to talk about an article she'd just read about babies being pincushions for pharmacutical companies. her babies aren't vaxed...she said she hates having to give them to parents that want them, but it's her job. she said if we don't want them, we won't get them. i'll only have to deal with the school, not her. she then checked her out and told me dd is VERY healthy. i asked her about starting solids and she said she's doing great on BM so why force her to eat. she suggested waiting until dd could eat finger foods at 9 months. i was so happy about this cuz i've been getting pressure to start solids and it just doesn't feel right yet. anyway...when i left she gave me a hug and said to call if she gets sick or if i want her to be seen, otherwise, see you sometime.<br><br>
thanks for all your help girls. i think i just got lucky here. i feel much better. next...tackling the school thing. good thing it's not for a few years yet.
 

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Wow, that is awesome!!!<br><br>
What a great Dr!<br><br><br>
I'm totally jealous!!<img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/winky.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="Wink">
 

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Wow!!! What a great doctor!!! I'm glad you found someone who respects your wishes and is actually looking out for the best health for your child. PS The advice to wait on solids is a GREAT one (most doctors would be pushing for solids--it's great she suggested waiting)!<br><br>
Lucky you!<img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/thumb.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="thumbs up">
 

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Wow that's great! May I ask, what state are you in?
 

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That is so great, where do you live? I am desperately hoping you say Austin, TX <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/lol.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="lol"><br><br>
-Crystal
 

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cjarvis, I've got a family doc who has a lot of unvax'd kids in her practice (to the northwest of town). And her babies were born at home, so she's fine with that as well. PM me if that part of town is okay and you want any more info.
 
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