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DD and I have the opportunity to travel to Spain (Madrid) with DH on a business trip next month. DD will be 9 ½ months when we go and everyone thinks I should leave her behind. Aside from missing her too much, I’m afraid that being gone for 7-10 days will ruin my supply. I’m already having supply issues now. Everyone thinks it will be too much work and not fair to her to take her along with the long flight (15 hours from Texas) but I think it will be too much work for me alone if I don’t take her, because I will have to pump every few hours. Coordinating that seems like a nightmare to me. What are your thoughts? Am I crazy for wanting to take her? Would you take your child? Thanks!
 

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Who is "everyone"? I'm betting it is one or two people who hold strong influence in your life. There is no way that I would leave a child that young for that long. I have traveled frequently with DS, now 11 months, and it hasn't been a problem. I would try to book a flight for her most sleepy time of day, take plenty of snacks and distractions, and do it. There is no reason to leave your baby. And you are right - pumping would be a nightmare, it would be hard to transport bm (you can't carry on with out a child), you risk plugged ducts and mastitis, your child may wean prematurely, your supply may go way down, etc etc etc.
 

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I can't imagine leaving one so young behind. That age is generally the height of separation anxiety and if you're already having supply issues could be the last straw for your nursing relationship.<br><br>
I'm not sure who "everyone" is, but you might want to assess their attachment-parenting-friendliness. Do these same people advocate "early independence" for babies (such as crib sleeping, bottle feeding, mother-baby separation)?
 

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I did take my child! We all went to Japan when my son was 9 months old. It was a 10 hour flight plus an additional 5-6 hours on the train once we arrived. The trip out was rotten, but the rest of the time it was great! It's a really fun age to travel with - he was crawling but not much more mobile. I actually hauled him half-way across the country by myself. I'd stick him in the Ergo and wander the Tokyo trains, etc.<br><br>
Bring her along. I've heard they love little babies in Spain <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/smile.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="smile">
 

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It can be done if your child takes a bottle and you are able to pump very well. I took a weekend trip to Canada without DS. I travelled out with an empty cooler, and came home with a full one. I check my milk when I'm traveling without DS, in a medium Igloo cooler full of ice marked "Human Milk, this end up!" in sharpie.<br><br>
However, that's a long time to be away. If it were me, I'd take my child along. I can only spend 48 hours away from DS before I start to get really unsettled.
 

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take her. i took mine to spain when she was 4 mths. (and many other countries her first year!)<br><br>
Spaniards LOVE babies and NIP is no problem there. Get a good sling to battle the cobblestones, call the airline and ask them for the bulkhead row and a bassinet & show her the world!
 

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Traveling with children is SUCH a joy - what a wonderful opportunity you have there!! Spain is a very child-friendly country, I'm sure your DD would get a lot of attention and you would have so much fun together. Breastfeeding makes the flight easier too, you can nurse her to relieve ear pain during take-off and landing. We've traveled a lot with our child, and have positive experiences only - even flying across the Atlantic several times, long train rides, flying around Europe - it's a wonderful family opportunity.<br><br>
My parents left me and my younger sister for 12 days when I was 4 and she was 11 months old - when they returned, she was so unhappy and miserable! She cried all the time and the attachment process between her and our parents was really traumatized.<br><br>
Good luck, and have a wonderful trip if you go!
 

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First things first: GET HER PASSPORT, EXPEDITED EDITION, RIGHT NOW. It can take a long time. Start today, even if you end up not going. Just some random advice. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/smile.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="smile"><br><br>
Okay, now on to the point:<br><br>
You absolutely do not need to leave her behind and I cannot IMAGINE doing that, myself. Take her! She'll love it! You will have so much fun together experiencing another country with a baby. It's so interesting to see how different cultures treat babies. Don't forget the baby carrier, though. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/smile.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="smile"><br><br>
I took my DD on a 18 hour flight, 36 hours of travel altogether. She was great. It was no trouble at all. You can buy diapers along the way, or if you EC, pee the baby anywhere. There is absolutely no place where I couldn't nurse her.<br><br>
"not fair to her to take her along with the long flight (15 hours from Texas)"<br><br>
Babies generally don't mind planes. What they mind is when they do not have unrestricted access to mommy's boobies during that time. My DD didn't cry or fuss at all for 3 out of 4 intercontinental plane flights. Only for one, I didn't pay attention that she had stayed up way too long, and it was hard to get her to sleep with all those people so she fussed. However she didn't mind being on the plane at all.<br><br>
Do try to get her her own seat, if possible, though.<br><br>
(By the way... who is this everyone telling you it's hard to travel with the baby and to leave her behind? Have they traveled internationally? Have they breastfed exclusively? It seems like odd advice to me.)
 

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Are you sure about the 15 hours??? That sounds wrong, unless it includes a layover or something then I can see 15 hours. But if you're flying direct it really shoudn't take that long. And I would not leave a 9.5 month old either, breastfeeding or not. My 2.5 year old has yet to spend a night away from me. If it were me I'd either take her or stay home. I think she'd be better off sitting through a long flight than being without you for more than a week.
 

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It took 11 hours for us to get from DFW to Frankfurt. So I can see 15 hours.<br><br><br>
Take her. Babies are fine on planes. She'll be nursing so she'll be happy. The only tricky part is going to be changing her. Those bathrooms are not made for mamas and their babies!
 

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Oh, yeah, the changing tables! However the newer Boeings do have changing tables. Please, though, do not change baby in the seat. We eat in our seats. I don't want to offend anyone who's done that but it's absolutely disgusting.
 

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Another vote for going! We took our then 11 mo. old to Germany and had a blast. He nursed or slept at the breast most of the flight and did wonderfully. It was also easy travelling with the sling and like other posters mentioned, nip and babies in general are welcomed. All of the older German relatives were so happy he was nursing and kept saying that mother's milk was the best- but they also wouldn't let me drink any orange juice to upset him!! (They didn't have a problem with the occasional beer either!)<br><br>
I really think you have to take opportunites like this when they come. And- kids love telling their friends places they've been when they're a bit older, so you're helping her out now!
 

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There's no way I'd leave her, breastfeeding or not. We've travelled extensively with DC, and travelled abroad with DD1 twice. I don't know who the "everyone" is that's telling you to leave her home, but they are completely wrong. It's not too much work to travel with child, it's an incredible experience. The long flights are not bothersome to most children at all. We are taking both children to Ireland, Amsterdam, and Italy this summer, and I'm so looking forward to it.<br><br>
One thing we try to do is schedule our flights over so that it will be in the middle of the night and the kids sleep most of the way (it's more difficult to do this returning to the US, because of time differences most flights coming back are in the middle of the day). I guess all children are different, but both of mine have always slept well on the planes, and have been generally well behaved on every flight we've been on.<br><br>
If you decide not to take her, one thing you should consider is the new restrictions on bringing liquids onto the plane. It will restrict how much EBM you can carry on with you when you return, and 15 hours is a long time for frozen milk to stay frozen in your luggage. My husband and I took a weekend trip together about a month ago and I did get past security with several bags of EBM (more than the limit), but I've got plenty stored and was willing to have to throw it away if necessary, so you'll need to consider whether you are willing to throw away your milk or not.<br><br>
Hope you take her, it will be an incredible opportunity for all of you.
 

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Thank you all for your advice. I truly appreciate it. I guess I asked you all because I knew that you would support my decision to take her. DH was a little apprehensive to take her, but he fully supports whatever I want to do. My mother told me that I should leave her behind (because she would get to keep her overnight…which she’s been dying to do), but she’s backed off now. Those are the only two opinions that were really weighing on me. Most of the other people who say we should leave her do not understand what it would do to our breastfeeding relationship and cannot comprehend why breastfeeding is so important to me, so I don’t really think much of their opinions anyway. I know we’ll have a blast. If nothing else it will be an adventure.
 
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