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So, I just had my son's one year check-up and the pamphlet that they handed out said, "now you should begin feeding your child whole milk or 2% milk because the fat contained in this milk is essential for proper brain development". Of course, the visit was so fast I didn't have time to have a discussion with the ped about how breastmilk fits into this theory, but am wondering how many of you have addressed this issue. Am I missing something? Do I need to be adding more fat in my sons diet by means of a cow??<br><br>
I feel like I already know the answer to this question, but I'm bothered that this pamphlet, which is supposed to help parents, doesn't really contain all the facts. Thanks for any input!
 

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fat is important, but your milk is still primo!<br>
i think they have to assume that a 12-month-old isn't being nursed anymore, because let's face it, the vast majority aren't.<br>
don't worry about the cow's milk. i think the important thing to remember is not to worry about giving our kids skim or low-fat stuff in fear of them getting "fat."
 

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Who published this pamphlet? Or paid for its publication? The American Dairy industry?<br><br>
It should say: <b>"If you are not breastfeeding</b> you should give your baby whole milk for brain development."<br><br>
Well, if you are not vegan, either!!! :LOL
 

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Breastmilk contains a *lot* of good fat...certainly more than cow's milk, from what' I've read. It's much better for brain development than cow's milk.
 

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Unless your son has 4 stomachs and chews grass in a field all day, your milk and the healthy, brain building fats in it are still perfect for him beyond 12 months.<br><br>
Here are lots of reasons mom's milk is better than cow's milk for toddlers:<br><a href="http://www.kellymom.com/bf/bfextended/ebf-benefits.html" target="_blank">http://www.kellymom.com/bf/bfextended/ebf-benefits.html</a><br><br><i>"Talking to patients about dairy products is a lot easier than it used to be because the “problems with milk” are better known than just a few years ago. Still, it’s hard to combat the $400,000,000 annual advertising budget available to the purveyors of dairy products.....<br><br>
Children (and their parents) get healthier when they have fewer dairy products and are healthiest when they have none." -Dr. Jay Gordon:</i><br><br><a href="http://www.drjaygordon.com/pediatricks/dairy.htm" target="_blank">http://www.drjaygordon.com/pediatricks/dairy.htm</a><br><br><i>"All of the studies done to date on the health benefits of breastfeeding show continued health benefits and IQ increases up to 2 years of age. Beyond two years of age? There haven't been any studies yet. But it is hard to imagine that all the good nutritional benefits, immunological benefits, and long-chain polyunsaturated fatty acids thought to be responsible for the IQ boosts would suddenly disappear the day after the child's second birthday!" -Katherine Dettwyler:</i><br><br><a href="http://www.prairienet.org/laleche/dettoddler.html" target="_blank">http://www.prairienet.org/laleche/dettoddler.html</a><br><br><i>"The results of a recent study in Finland suggest that at introduction of dairy products at an early age, and high milk consumption during childhood increase the level of cow's milk antibodies in the children's systems. This factor is independently associated with increased risk of insulin dependent diabetes."</i><br>
from "101 Reasons to Breastfeed" at link below, reason #18<br><br><a href="http://www.promom.org/101/index.html" target="_blank">http://www.promom.org/101/index.html</a>
 

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Cow milk is essential for proper brain development in little cows. Human milk is essential for proper brain development in little humans.
 

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And face it, them cow's brains are not developin all that much!<br><br>
Noble beasts tho they are. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/bow2.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="bow2">
 

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Explains a few things about our primarily-cow-milk-fed population, doesn't it, DaryLLL? <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/winky.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="Wink">
 

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oh the truth you all speak! I was just really disappointed when I left my drs appt. I've had several good visits with drs being pro-breastfeeding or atleast acting like they were, then at one year old, bam!, bm isn't good anymore? It's sad that what they are sharing with the masses is 1.) not right and 2.) showing support for a practice that ignores what is natural and best for our babies.<br><br>
Thanks for all the links, momtwice. I'll certainly enjoy checking them out! And to the rest of you for reinforcing what I already felt was right.<br><br>
If I ever win the lottery, I promise to use a portion of my winnings to make many doctors do research on the benefits of breastmilk versus cows milk or formula and have them publish the undeniable results in every mainstream magazine known to woman!<img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/orngtongue.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="Stick Out Tongue"> OK, wishful thinking I know. But I do seriously think about these things<img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/orngbiggrin.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="orange big grin"> We all know that bm doesn't produce a bazillion dollar market so there aren't a lot of people jumping at the chance to really prove its worth.
 

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<i>Originally posted by Momtwice</i><br><br><i>"Talking to patients about dairy products is a lot easier than it used to be because the “problems with milk” are better known than just a few years ago. Still, it’s hard to combat the $400,000,000 annual advertising budget available to the purveyors of dairy products.....<br><br></i><br><br><a href="http://www.drjaygordon.com/pediatricks/dairy.htm" target="_blank">http://www.drjaygordon.com/pediatricks/dairy.htm</a><br><br><img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/yikes.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="EEK!"><img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/yikes.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="EEK!"><img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/yikes.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="EEK!"> Am I reading that number correctly? A four hundred million dollar annual advertising budget? That's a LOT of money....just think of how many IBCLC hours for women who need breastfeeding help that would pay for. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/mecry.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="crying">
 

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I understand what you mean. I think the message is really intended because people are so into non and low fat that there was a trend that all fat was evil...But when ds turned one and all the moms at daycare began feeding whole milk it was as if it was a requirement at age 1 for some of them...I even heard one say that she "had to wean and start giving him a cup".
 

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It is irresponsible of a DRs office to be disseminating such crap.<br><img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/angry.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="angry"><br><br>
The Sears breastfeeding book has a great paragraph on cow's milk vs. human milk. I can't quote it exactly, but the gist is that cows primarily need strong BODIES, and the cow's milk is therefore good for bones etc, but since humans live primarily by their wits, human milk is designed for developing BRAINS.
 

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find an LLL meeting you like for good info and support.<br><br>
tell your dr. the line about the cows.<br><br>
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<table border="0" cellpadding="6" cellspacing="0" width="99%"><tr><td class="alt2" style="border:1px inset;">Cow milk is essential for proper brain development in little cows. Human milk is essential for proper brain development in little humans...<br><br>
...And face it, them cow's brains are not developin all that much!<br><br>
Noble beasts tho they are...<br><br>
...Explains a few things about our primarily-cow-milk-fed population, doesn't it, DaryLLL?</td>
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OMGOSH! You two are hilarious! :LOL <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/ROTFLMAO.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="rotflmao"> :LOL
 

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the cow brain/human brain joke is an excellent topic for activism in the form of art.<br><br>
1. any kind of visual art would make the point.<br><br>
2. a children's/family book.<br><br>
3. a pamphlet for pregnant women.<br><br>
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ulrike, tell us about breastfeeding culture in heidelberg. how about extended breastfeeding?<br><br>
we lived a year in neumunster, schleswig holstein and then another summer in berlin. i talked a little with some LLL leaders from hamburg at the international LLL conference in san fransisco in july.<br><br>
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<table border="0" cellpadding="6" cellspacing="0" width="99%"><tr><td class="alt2" style="border:1px inset;"><i>Originally posted by rrr</i><br><b>the cow brain/human brain joke is an excellent topic for activism in the form of art.<br><br>
1. any kind of visual art would make the point.<br><br></b></td>
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<a href="http://greenhat.5u.com/images/cow.jpg" target="_blank">http://greenhat.5u.com/images/cow.jpg</a>
 

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He said we should continue the nursing relationship as long as we both want to and that IF I introduce milk give her whole milk BECAUSE my breastmilk has the fatty make-up of whole-milk at this point.
 

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<table border="0" cellpadding="6" cellspacing="0" width="99%"><tr><td class="alt2" style="border:1px inset;"><i>Originally posted by rrr</i><br><b>ulrike, tell us about breastfeeding culture in heidelberg. how about extended breastfeeding?</b></td>
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Well, you really don't see bottle feeding in ads, but I think that's a Europe thing. They seem to take that part of The Code a little more seriously. I've been told that "everyone" starts out breastfeeding in Germany, but that "everyone" also weans by 6 months. I really have most of my contact with American military families here, so I don't know from personal experience.<br><br>
I used a German midwife, and she said if she based her assumptions about American culture on her clients, she'd think we all breastfed for YEARS, used cloth diapers, homebirthed (unassisted, as she's never actually ATTENDED a homebirth on base - always arrives about 15 min afterward, simply because we wait so long to call her), etc.
 

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