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Why is it that something so natural can be so difficult? I have just had my<br>
2nd dd 11 days ago and really hoped breastfeeding would be easier the 2nd time around.<br>
With my first dd (6 years ago) we had problems bf and it took about 4 months to get it right. I had to use a nippleshield which were completely inpractical and had much pain and many many tears and threatened to quit bf (not really) constantly.<br><br>
This time around has been a total repeat performance. I just can't seem to get my dd to open her mouth enough to latch on correctly on both sides and because of that my nipples feel like that they are on fire. I have been using a nipple shield because it hurts so much be she definitly doesn't seem to get enough milk to satisfy her with it. I dread hearing her wake up from her naps because I know I will have to feed her. This is just not how it is supposed to be. I am going to go to a bf support group this week to see if anything can help.I just don't know if I can take this for 4 months again.<br><br>
Is there anyone out there who can relate to my misery?<img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/greensad.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="greensad">
 

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Yep. Tongue tie + thrush for us in the early days of nursing.... not good!!!! I really encourage you to get on the phone with a LLL leader, don't wait til the meeting! The meetings are great for encouragement but talking one on one with a leader can help a lot. It's part of their job to take calls and advise moms by phone. If you haven't found one yet you can call 1-800-LALECHE to find a local leader.<br><br>
hang in there, keep seeking answers and solutions.<br><br>
In the meantime, you can take tylenol to take the edge off the pain so you don't dread it quite so much, and use cold compresses after your dd unlatches to reduce swelling and pain. I did this in the early days and it was the one thing that got me through some days.<br><br>
Also if possible, don't nurse without giving yourself some distraction - put on the radio, a cd, the tv, listen to an audio book with headphones - something to place at least part of your attention on in order to make sure you aren't sitting there concentrating on the pain. It does help.<br><br>
Kellymom.com might be a good place for you to do a search on latch issues and any other questions, their advice is very accurate and helpful.
 

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Yes! I can definitely relate! Thankfully we are past that with ds, but I know it could happen again with another dc. You CAN get through this! You've done it before. I have confidence in you. I hated the nipple shield, too. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/irked.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="irked">:<br><br>
Just wanted to let you know you are not alone.
 

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Hang in there, mama!! I agree...call an LLL leader RIGHT NOW. They are happy to help in any way they can, and possibly would meet with you before the meeting (my leader would in a heartbeat). Have you seen a lactation consultant as well? Get lots of support and surround yourself with it!!<br><br>
Take care, and I hope things get better soon!
 

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Awww, I've totally been there and it's absolutely NO fun! When Mia was born, she wouldn't latch for anything and I ended up pumping full time for 2 months while trying to get her to latch on. I went to LLL meetings, LCs...and finally after 2 months she got it! I remember pumping one time and the milk was pink, and I couldn't figure out why....until I realized it was (TMI) blood because my nipples were so raw. One thing that helped the pain there was filling up 2 coffee cups with warm water and putting a dash of salt in there and hanging my nipples in there (yeah, DH got a good laugh out of that, but I didn't care I was desperate). That really helped. Tylenol also helps the pain, too. The hold that helped me the most too was the football hold...have you tried that? Here's a good link with a pic:<br><a href="http://www.pregnancystore.com/nursing_nest_nursing_pillow.htm" target="_blank">http://www.pregnancystore.com/nursin...ing_pillow.htm</a><br><br>
It will get better, I promise!!! Just grin & bear it for a bit and it will be okay!!
 

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*hugs*<br><br>
From your description of the problems you are having, I'm assuming the nipples feeling like they are on fire is a result of cracked and blistered nipples... Have you tried these <a href="http://www.soothies.com/index.html" target="_blank">http://www.soothies.com/index.html</a>. I have heard great things about them helping cracked nipples. With my first two I had horrilbe cracked nipples and we used something similar in design (a gel based product that they use for burns), I can't remember the name of it sorry.<br><br>
I second the recommendation to call LLL today.
 

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Thanks for all your replies. It made me want to cry just reading them. The crazy thing is that my nipples aren't even cracked and bleeding (at the moment), they are just raw. I have been trying to go without the shield but it hurts too bad so i have resigned myself to using the shield and at bedtime pumping to supplement so she can fall asleep better. I guess at this point I just need to accept pumping and supplementing when necessary. We go to the ped tomorrow and i am anxious to see if she is gaining enough.<br><br>
I will contact a LLL group asap and do whatever i can to get through this.<br>
thanks for letting me know that i am not alone!
 

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Ooh yeah, the first few months were tough. Definitely get over to an LLL meeting... aside from support and reminding you that you're not alone, they can also check your DD's latch and make suggestions on how best to change things. And they usually have a good lending library... I always found that reading books on how normal everything was helped me continue.<br><br>
Lasinoh was my best friend. Any purified lanolin will do, but I found that Lasinoh was really smooth and soft and didn't hurt going on (whereas the Medela kind was harder to rub onto already sore nipples).<br><br>
Try not to think of this as "4 more months of pain" Just get through each feeding, you'll see improvement as you and your baby learn to work together. Hang in there mama! <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/hug.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="hug"><img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/hug.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="hug">
 

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We also had to use a shield - between Blake not opening his mouth enough and my breast being way too firm, it was very difficult the first while. And when I weaned off the shield it was pain all over again as I got used to the direct contact.<br>
We eventually got through it, but those first weeks were pretty awful. Oh..and there is no LLL here, so there wasn't that option open to me.
 

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<img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/hug.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="hug"> WE had thrush mainly on though sometimes off for the first 9 mos. and I feel your pain! Hang in there and just keep taking each day. If it helps, I now have a wonderful nursing 15 mo. old and no pain and I keep thinking even those 9 mos. were worth it when I can comfort DS in any situation with his nursies! LLL definitely helps though so find them if you can!!
 

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My friend had cranial-sacrial therapy for her newborn to help him open his mouth wide enough.<br><br>
Also, if you nipples turn white after feeding, you might want to research "raynaud's syndrome" of the nipple, also called nipple vasospasm. There are several treatments for this--the first time I had it, it just went away on its own after 4 months. The second time, it didn't go away on its own and I ended up taking evening primrose oil for several weeks and that really fixed the problem.
 

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also check out <a href="http://www.drjacknewman.com" target="_blank">www.drjacknewman.com</a><br><br>
Dr. Newman has been associated with LLL for many years and his new website is beyond fabulous. So many great resources.<br><br>
Hang in there, you can do it - you've got some great advice above.
 
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