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Okay, I have a question for you savvy budgeting folks!

I am using a preprinted Home/Office Budget book from Adams publications to track our spending and come up with a budget. The book itself is about 6x15 or so, and it's organized like a ledger or a spreadsheet, with days of the month along the top horizontally and expense categories in a column along the left side. The categories are predetermined, and are the most common household items--housing, insurance, utilities, loans, credit cards, groceries, transportation, child care, medical/prescriptions, dining out, clothing, etc. There are a total of 30 categories, including a miscellaneous category, and then there spaces for you to write in categories. I have written in the categories of "Dogs", "Home Maintenance" and "Personal Care". Overall I'm pretty happy with this system thus far. One of the problems I have had with budgeting in the past is that I can be a little bit, uh, shall we say, perfectionistic, and can get bogged down in the details.

Anyway, though, this is giving me a better idea of how much we spend on the major categories--utilities, cell phone and phone/internet, groceries, eating out, etc. I'm still trying to track pretty decently so that I actually know where our money is going and can thus set more realistic numbers and also target where we need to cut spending and/or increase income. Right now it's more "descriptive" still rather than completely "prescriptive" as I just started this in September so I wanted to get a really good idea of how much our expenses actually are before I set a target/limit for how much we "should" be spending in different categories.

So, my question however is about tracking purchases that fit into a number of different categories, but are purchased on one receipt. Do you actually break that total down into the component parts and separate them out into different categories, or lump the total into "miscellaneous"? For example: I went to Walgreens. I bought two children's toothbrushes for DD for $4.00. I bought a children's toothpaste for $3.99. I bought a humongous bottle of ibuprofen for 19.99. I bought some burt's bees intensive hand repair cream for 11.99. I bought some soda for 1.79. Total bill was 45.33. (Please don't comment on the actual spending choices here--this is just an example, as I am only asking about how to *classify* these purchases for the sake of keeping track of spending, not whether these purchases were adequately frugal or sensible!!
) Would you put the toothbrushes/toothpaste/hand cream totalled in "personal care" and the ibuprofen in "medical/drugs" and the soda in "miscellaneous"? Or would you just put the whole total bill as a miscellaneous expense? Similar question about Target: We bought some cleaning supplies. We bought some hand soap. We bought some pens. We bought some food/grocery items. Would you break these down into those categories or not? Same question with things like personal care items or cleaning supplies that you purchase at the grocery store--do you consider those part of your grocery bill, or do you categorize them separately?

I guess the question is: How specific do you get with budgeting for these sorts of items? How specific are you with categories, and with breaking down purchases into categories? Do you have a place to seperately list the items that are "miscellaneous" so you know exactly what you spent that on months from now when you no longer remember? Or--does it even matter and should I just set a limit for each category and do cash envelopes for that category and then not even pay attention to what I spend the $ on as long as it's within the budget amount? Is that realistic in the long run when you are fairly new to doing an actual budget and tracking spending by categories? I just know that in the past I have tended to overlook certain things as necessities--for instance, needing a new toothbrush now and then, or the fact that the insurance bill comes quarterly, etc.!! I want to get a good handle on what exactly our expenses over a typical year, so I want to be specific enough but I don't want to be too obsessive/compulsive and nitpicky either.

Thanks!
 

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My DH does our budget and money tracking in an elaborate Excel spreadsheet, and he's a bit, um, anal about it.


If we're only buying a handful of items, then we'll pay for them all at once. Then, when DH enters the purchase into the spreadsheet, he will look at each item, figure out what category it goes into, and then enter the amounts into their appropriate spreadsheet categories.

If we're making a large purchase where that would be a PITA, then we divide the items up at the register and pay for each category separately so that we have a separate receipt for each category. However, we pay with a debit card, instead of something time-consuming like a check, so that it only adds a few extra seconds work for the cashier.
 

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Would you put the toothbrushes/toothpaste/hand cream totalled in "personal care" and the ibuprofen in "medical/drugs" and the soda in "miscellaneous"? Or would you just put the whole total bill as a miscellaneous expense?
Similar question about Target: We bought some cleaning supplies. We bought some hand soap. We bought some pens. We bought some food/grocery items. Would you break these down into those categories or not? Same question with things like personal care items or cleaning supplies that you purchase at the grocery store--do you consider those part of your grocery bill, or do you categorize them separately?
All of this would be under groceries in our house. We don't break any of that down, everything that is consumable, either thru eating or using, is under groceries in our budget.

It's going to be a personal choice for you to figure out. Do you really feel the need to break it all down and know how much you are spending on toothpaste and cleaning supplies? If the category ends up being "high" do you really have the ability to cut that expense down? Or is it not really relavant after all? I mean if you put Advil under medical and at the end of the year that catergory is deemed too "high" will you really cut back on using the said Advil?

Good luck on figuring out a system that works best for your family.
 

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I don't break things down in as many categories as you do. But when I do purchase items from different categories at the same store, I break it down on my budget sheet.

For example, yesterday at Target I bought Christmas Presents, household stuff, and groceries. So on my spreadsheet, I broke down the amounts and put the appropriate amount in each column.
 

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We definitely break it down. Just go through the receipt and figure it out. I try and group th eitems together if it's at the grocery store, so they're all together on the receipt. Occasionally, if there is a definitive split between say groceries and clohthing (or grocery store sells a lot of cheap clothes), I'll get a subtotal on the receipt.
 

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I'm totally anal with my spending tracking, too. (OK, I'm totally anal with pretty much everything in life, LOL!
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In your example, I would lump most of that stuff into "Miscellaneous." I used to get all bound up with my Wal-Mart receipt, tracking Health/Beauty separate from Cleaning Supplies, for instance. At some point, I gave that up, and now use Health/Beauty only for haircuts/nails. Most Wal-Mart spending (toothbrushes, soap, paper towels) goes into Miscellaneous. I have a $100/month Misc. budget. Some months it's paper towels & toothbrushes, some months it's laundry detergent & cleaning supplies & batteries. I keep the cash in an envelope, and when it's gone, I know that any Misc. stuff has to wait until the next pay period.

Any medicine that can be reimbursed through our FSA comes out of my Freedom Account/Medical sub-account.

Have you heard about the Freedom Account concept? It has made the hugest difference in our finances. http://www.getrichslowly.org/blog/20...he-unexpected/
That's where we save the money for stuff we KNOW we will spend, but not exactly when. Stuff that's not every month, like car insurance, personal property taxes, Christmas, medical co-pays, and home maintenance. Yes, it's a separate account to track, but I find that the spending from this account isn't frequent enough to be a headache.

Hope that helps!
 

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Denvergirlie and AuntNi, you've reminded me of a good point--which is that I think although I can lump some things together, I realize that I *should* definitely track spending for medical items, at least ones that are reimbursable by a flex-spend account! It may not change the amount I spend, but I'll have a better idea next year at open enrollment when we go to set an amount for the FSA! With our plan they give us a "benefits credit card" which we can use just like a credit card, except that it's a prepaid/secured type of credit card, funded through our pretax witholdings. This year we ran out of "money" from that halfway through the year, and I should have done a better job of tracking what we actually spent out of pocket after that, because again this year we just had to sort of guestimate the witholding for that (we just doubled it from last year.) I could have paid for the Advil with pretax dollars!!


annethcz, I like "household stuff" as a category--maybe I'll have to add it!! It encompasses a lot (decor, cleaning supplies, toilet paper, etc.) but is a bit more specific than "miscellaneous"! I don't want to have to have fifty million categories, but just enough to be specific enough that I know where the heck our money is actually going!

And yes, I did hear about the Freedom Fund concept--maybe even from you previously posting it here before! I decided it was a good idea, so we've shuffled around our banking/accounts, and I figured out what our major irregular but expected expenses are--car insurance and registration on both cars, oil changes, annual renewal of termite contracts on house and garage. I added them all up and divided the yearly total by 12 and we're going to start treating it like a monthly bill.

Thanks for the input--keep the ideas coming!!
It's helpful to know how other folks actually figure these things out!!
 
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