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Had an ultrasound this morning for other reasons and the baby is frank breech. I had an idea she was but I am just discouraged because I already have other medical issues to deal with. (I'm on a blood thinner and need to decide to wait until spontaneous labor or schedule an induction - plus I want another VBAC. A breech baby at this point just complicates things)<br><br>
I've been doing some research on how to encourage her to turn - yet I don't know which suggestions will be the right ones for her position (head in on right side and legs up on my left) and there's a fear that maybe she is breech for a reason and I should just let things be. However, I don't want another c-section and don't think if the OB will deliver a breech baby vaginally.<br><br>
It's so stressful.
 

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That is very stressful! I'm sorry that you have to deal with it as well.<br><br>
Have you tried finding a chiropractor to do the webster technique to encourage the baby to turn? It's non-invasive and if the baby has a reason for being breech it won't bother it.<br><br>
Also, DD was breech until 36 weeks and then she turned, but while I was waiting for her to do that I found out that there is a practice in my city that does vaginal breech birth. I would put out feelers in your community to see if anyone there does them and if you meet their criteria. That might be reassuring, at least you would know your options.
 

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Oh I'm so sorry!! I 2nd the chiro recommendation. The webster technique has helped us turn this little flip-flopper into a better position. Looks like you're about 35 weeks and still have a bit of a window for this babe to turn.<br><br>
In addition to the chiro here are two sites that deal with helping babies get into a head down position.<br><a href="http://doula4birth.com/ofp.htm" target="_blank">http://doula4birth.com/ofp.htm</a><br><br><a href="http://spinningbabies.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=25&Itemid=32" target="_blank">http://spinningbabies.com/index.php?...d=25&Itemid=32</a><br><br>
Good luck!
 

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I'm so sorry to hear that your little one is not in an easy position for you.<br><br>
As the mama of three breech babies (all mine were footling breech!) I have tried lots and lots of things to get those little heads to go down. All of my babies were pretty stubborn and stayed put (actually, I have a "heart-shaped" uterus and they just got their heads wedged in too tight to go anywhere else....)<br><br>
Of all the things that I have tried, I would recommend moxibustion the most. During my moxibustion treatments, I could feel my body working to turn those little babes- it was pretty intense- but not invasive at all. I am sure that had they not come up against the wall of my uterus, they would have flipped to be head-down.<br><br>
I hope this information helps and that you are able to bring that little one into this world in a peaceful manner.
 

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Sorry to hear you have a breech baby! I was actually born (naturally, no meds) frank breech. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/smile.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="smile"> I agree with all the other suggestions and I wanted to say relax. You still have time and it is not uncommon at all for a baby to turn at this point!
 

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Hey! My baby is breech too!<br><br>
As for having another c section. If I were going to the hospital I wouldnt consent to another surgery just because my baby is breech.<br>
If I dont consent, they cant do surgery... so who cares if they 'say' they will do it or not. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/smile.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="smile"><br><br>
Good luck getting baby to turn!
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;">As for having another c section. If I were going to the hospital I wouldnt consent to another surgery just because my baby is breech. If I dont consent, they cant do surgery... so who cares if they 'say' they will do it or not. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/smile.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="smile"></div>
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This is easier said than done, especially if you live in an area (as I do) where every hospital and Dr's policy is to do a c-section for a breech baby, which means Drs are no longer being trained to/getting experience with breech births. I have a midwife, but legally she cannot be my primary caregiver if my baby is breech when I go into labour. My care would be transfered to an OB, and she would be there for me, but not be in charge of my care.<br><br><a href="http://web.mac.com/breechbirth/iWeb/Site/Welcome.html" target="_blank">http://web.mac.com/breechbirth/iWeb/Site/Welcome.html</a><br><br>
Also, they can do surgery without your consent, based on fetal rights.<br><a href="http://www.alternet.org/story/18493/" target="_blank">http://www.alternet.org/story/18493/</a><br><br>
My baby seems to be head down pretty consistently now, but s/he was flipping back and forth between head down, breech, and some kind of transverse for a while. I too wondered if I should encourage the baby to go head down, or was there a good reason for the position? Personally, if my baby were breech when I started labour, I would very likely just not call my midwife so I could homebirth.<br><br>
I'm not trying to be negative or contrary, and I think having a positive attitude like your post shows is so important to having your wishes and rights respected. But I don't think every (or even most) women who arrive at the hospital in labour with a breech baby will really have a choice or be able to decline consent.
 

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Sending you some <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/dust.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="dust"><img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/baby.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="baby"><img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/ROTFLMAO.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="rotflmao"><img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/fingersx.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="fingersx">: (that's baby turning good luck dust, BTW)!!
 

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I wish I could have a homebirth but with trying for another VBAC and my other clotting issues I don't feel comfortable having birth at home. I also don't have any contacts with any experienced midwives.<br><br>
I haven't the slightest experience with chiropractors or acupunture and wouldn't know where to start in finding a good person for either the Webster techinique or moxibustion. Plus, I already have 2 doctor's appointments per week right now - i don't know how I could fit in any more with 2 preschoolers.<br><br>
I tried the flashlight idea and the ice pack idea last night but I don't think it worked. She seems to be in the same position. I'll try the tilt board thing for a couple days and keep talking to her and hope she moves.<br><br>
I so don't want to be cut again <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/greensad.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="greensad">
 

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My favorite and totally non-invasive method of turning a breech baby is sitting on a radio. Or at least positioning a radion low on your abdomen. Most babies will gravitate toward the music. Crazy, huh?<br>
I actually had a client who this worked for. She was scheduled for an external version (sp?) and when they went to do it, the baby was already turned. I love Mother Nature for things like that!!<br><br>
I also second the Webster and moxibustion. They have great success rates. A radio is easy though and free!!
 

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DD was breech, but ds seems to be head down, thankfully. I did the slant board, playing music down low, ice packs, and moxa. Moxa seemed to do the most in terms of making her active and more likely to turn, although nothing actually worked in our case to flip her. Just wanted to let you know that the accupuncturist came once or twice and did moxa, showed dh how, and gave him the special moxa sticks to use. So it might not have to overload you with appointments too much. You might be able to do one appt and have your partner or a friend do repeated moxa at home.
 

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Another vote for Webster here-- the day after I had it done the first time, the baby turned. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/smile.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="smile"> It also really helped my RL pain as a side benefit.
 
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