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can AP hurt my marriage?

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I was talking to a friend the other day and she was telling me how she started putting all her kids in her own rooms when they were about 1 month old. she said she did this because of her marriage, because she didn't see how a marriage could survive if the kids were constantly in the middle.
well, I'm concerned, we cosleep in my house (did with dd, now 3 and in her own bed) and currently with ds (4 months) and the kids are our #1 priority right now, my baby is too small for me to leave him with anyone, and I have never ever left him with anyone other than dh. and I won't until he's at least 2. can this affect my marriage? I mean, dh and I manage to have dates when the kids are asleep (at home, but they are still dates) and we find time to be intimate as well, so could this be a potential problem? can AP be harmful to a marriage?
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I think it could if you let it. DD co-slept until she was 5 (yes 5). It didn't affect our marriage at all. Is your husband bothered by it? My DH wasn't. If we wanted to be intimate we'd either go somewhere else or put DD in her own bed. It was never a big deal with us.
it depends on the expectations of the couple. if a guy gets married and thinks having a kid in his bed is strange and sick, then yes, cosleeping would have a deleterious effect on that marriage. but it sounds like you and your dh have already worked things out pretty well, and that he is supportive of your parenting ideals.

just like AP isn't for every family, other cultural expectations won't be true for every couple either.

you might want to read "our babies, ourselves." it has some wonderful comparisons between cultures and family traditions... i found it very enlightening, and it helped me be more tolerant of parents whose ideals were very different from mine... it's just that we value very different things for our children, not that one of us is more "right" or a better parent than the other.

let's see if i can find it on amazon for ya: our babies, ourselves by meredith small. enjoy!

katje
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we both decided to cosleep and we both love it. we both agree with practicing AP because it's really how we are as parents... so that's not an issue... I was just thinking that maybe putting too much time and thought into parenting and not thinking about the relationship as much can affect it? right now everything is fine, I am just wondering in the long-term..
I totally agree with the PP, if you and your partner are making the joint decision to AP than, no it shouldn't hurt your marriage. Even Dr. Phil, who is not a co-sleeping advocate, said on a recent show about parenting, that the issue at hand is how BOTH parents feel about the situation. Personally, our decision to AP has made our marriage stronger, I feel, as we learn and grow with DD.
What I was going to say has already been said.

It sounds as though this was a husband and wife decision. Not something you decided to do, whether or not dh agreed!

Your friend, perhaps she wants the babies in bed, and her husband doesn't. That's totally different.

My dh didn't exactly want our ds in bed with us, so I did what I could with that. We had a bassinet and I had it right next to the bed. When he woke up, I pulled in him bed, fed him, and most nights, fell asleep doing so. If I didn't, as soon as dh left for work (military at that time) I'd sit up, pick up the baby, and cuddle back in bed. Little funny here, at one point our bedroom heat didn't work (base board, in january!) so When I TOLD (yes told) dh that Jack would be sleeping with us, he said, good because I was going ask what we were going to do about enough covers for him! We were both fully dressed, with two blankets on the bed, and Jack had on two pair of socks and two sleepers, poor baby hated hats so he wasn't wearing one. But pull him in bed, and both of us lost a layer of clothing.

Anyway, sorry to hi-jack your thread, but I don't think it will hurt your marriage. You find time to be alone together, and as long as you are both comfortable sleeping with the baby, then it's the right choice for you!
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we both decided to cosleep and we both love it. we both agree with practicing AP because it's really how we are as parents... so that's not an issue...
You've already gotten some good advice. Seems like it's a non issue. If you are treating DH with the same respect you are treating your children, then how can you not have a good marriage.


mom to Lyndsey who at 3 1/2 is still in our bed because that's where we all want to be
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You've already gotten some good advice. Seems like it's a non issue. If you are treating DH with the same respect you are treating your children, then how can you not have a good marriage.


mom to Lyndsey who at 3 1/2 is still in our bed because that's where we all want to be
oh my, you just revealed the reason to my problem... I am not treating dh with the same respect that I treat my children. I mean... it sounds silly but I actually never thought of it that way!


thanks!
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I think that, overall, AP has made our marriage stronger. We spend a lot of time and energy being mindful of our children's needs and showering them with love and encouragement -- a natural consequence of that has been an increased tendency to treat EACH OTHER that way.

Attachment Marriage!!!


There are some things that are more difficult -- having a baby in the bed does make intimacy harder, BF on cue leaves me touched-out, constant attention to our children makes me less interested in talking at night. But, we're both aware that this is a temporary state and that, eventually, we'll have more time for each other again. We also recognize when it's time to put our marriage first -- those are the times that Ean goes to bed early or gets to watch some extra Noggin so that mommy and daddy can talk.
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Originally Posted by Mindful Mom
Attachment Marriage!!!



that's what I need!

any ideas on how to have a happy "attachment marriage"???
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I think it's all in how you look at it. To me, "attachment" is equivalent to "mindful". Being present, in the moment. You can apply this to your marriage too. When having coffee in the morning, make eye contact, reach out to your spouse. Really listen to what your husband is saying, and tell him you'd like him to do the same. When going for walks in the evening, grab 2 travel mugs filled with coffee (or whatever) and use that time to catch up with each other. Basically, treat each other with the same respect you would treat your children or another person. This is easier said than done, as it is usually the people we are closest to that we are the hardest on!
Whatever you put into your marriage is ideally what you should recieve back.

Good thread topic!
What China White said!!

Think about how much you love and respect your children, think about how gentle you try to be, think about how important they are to you. Then think about your partner the same way!

In some ways, the term attachment parenting has always bugged me -- because it only encompasses the parent-child relationship. I like to think of us as an attachment FAMILY. That reminds me to treat Rich as kindly as I treat my children. I try to understand his POV, I try to anticipate what he might need from me, I try to make time for him. I try to let him know that he's as much of a priority as the children.

Sometimes it works well, sometimes it stinks -- but it's always getting better!
interesting. I will talk to dh about this. we have been getting into a lot of stupid, non-sense arguments lately, over so many stupid stuff, that I am just tired of it.
I think we try to hard to be the best parents that we forget about each other a little bit
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This is such an important question, and such an individual experience!

I have friends who shy away from many of the practices dh and I use (extended bfing and cosleeping) because they don't think it will work in the context of their relationships. I give them credit for knowing what they are willing to try and where their limits are...it's a difference in what we expect to "get" from a marriage. Dh and I are raising a family, and we get a huge deal of fulfillment from that--and that is a good thing, since there are certainly weeks in our life when we don't get any "coupleness" at all! At the same time, we waited a little longer into our marriage to have kids, and we were really, really ready to feather and fill our nest!

That said, we are now ready to make a few adjustments into the "next stage" of our cosleeping situation, to give us more time in actual physical contact. I realized I'm really starting to miss it, and he is at the same time, so it's time for a (small) change.

I guess it all comes down to agreeing on parenting approaches. When both parents have truly "bought into" it, I don't think it can hurt. When someone is not totally with the program, I think it is then that resentment can build. For example, if I work hard to approach discipline gently, and my partner thinks slapping hands is appropriate, we need to work that out--or I'll seethe anytime I find out my kid was hit, and eventually it's going to come out somewhere.

Since "AP" refers to so many things besides cosleeping, though...and, while I have left my kids in others' care (rarely and with carefully considered care providers), I consider myself an AP parent...in a healthy marriage.
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A lot of it, like others said, is about expectations. DH and I both grew up in cosleeping families and expected nothing less for ourselves. Sleeping cuddled up with our babies has always been a happy ideal for us, not some kind of compromise situation whereby we lose intimacy. Intimacy is about day-to-day connections with your partner, not about sleeping with just each other.

There is a very different issue if your partner does not respect you as a parent, and vice versa. If your partner sincerely believes that AP will raise a "brat" and doesn't respect your opinion, this is a HUGE issue - this is pretty much the only way I can see where AP would actually lead to any large-scale marital discord.
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Originally Posted by Mindful Mom
I like to think of us as an attachment FAMILY. That reminds me to treat Rich as kindly as I treat my children. I try to understand his POV, I try to anticipate what he might need from me, I try to make time for him. I try to let him know that he's as much of a priority as the children.

Sometimes it works well, sometimes it stinks -- but it's always getting better!
ITA with this sentiment. Thanks for phrasing it so well.

I think AP practices themselves might not necessarily be detrimental to a marriage, but could be used to find fault within a marriage that is already ailing, if that makes any sense.

Mia
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Nothing to add. Sweet thread. DH would love for me to AP him, lol.
Definitely agree that when it's joint and there's an atmosphere of whole-family attachment, it can only help!!!

How to get started being a whole-family-attachment family?

Here's a good start for most people in western cultures:

Nonviolent Communication: A Language of Compassion

Good luck!
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I don't think any particular method of parenting is going to adversly effect a marriage- but what will affect a marriage is if the parents disagree with what the other is doing- in other words if Dad's ap and mom's ap, then parenting together will probably go smoothly and maybe even stregthen their marriage. But if parents disagree on how to raise kids, then that will be a source of tension and could cause trouble... imo of course...
For me, I didn't marry Daednu to spend two to four years with her. I married her with the intention of spending my life with her and growing with her. OK, so I was a minor nutcase she's had to put up with for a while, but thankfully she's stuck through it.

Some people would look at the side-effects of AP, in terms of parental intimacy, etc. and say "no way!" But the way I look at it- my kids are going to need AP for what, two three years? What's that out of the grand scheme of the time we're married? Better to give it to them, cause it can't be re-done.
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