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Ok so I need some opinions on how to handle this. My dh just had his teeth taken out and dentures put in a little over a week ago. We paid over 1000.00 for each the top and the bottom. Since he got them, they have not fit right. There is a gap between the gums and his teeth on the front of the bottom, which is causing them to be painful. Basically the dentist made them too large.<br>
So fast forward to a week after they have been done and my dh told the dentist after he has been in 4 times for adjustments that for the cost of them he was not happy with the way that they are fitting. The top has play in them as well, they don't fit his mouth really at all.<br>
The dentist set up the chair and told him that some people are just never happy and basically he had to deal with it. Now don't get me wrong, I understand that they will never been like his real teeth, but they should not be this way, they will fall out for crying out loud.<br>
The other comment the dentist made was he may have to make due until it was time for the realignment which is another 600.00 about 6 months down the road.<br>
We want him to either redo them, or refund out money and we will go have them done elsewhere. We are also wondering if we should turn him into the American Dental Association because this isn't good.<br>
So please someone help me know what rights we have on this.<br><br>
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I would call another dentist and talk to them. i wouldnt say who your dentist is now jsut give the run down like you did. Ask them what they would do. I would defintley want my teeth to fit in my mouth. I dont think that your current dentist must be that great is he is acting like this. SOrry that you are having such a rough time<br><img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/Rainbow.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="rainbow peace"><br>
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In our area dentists dont make the teeth, the dentist makes a mold and then it is sent off so someone who make the dentures. All that so say I really dont know if a dentist make adjustments they usually send them back to the maker.<br><br>
The only reason I know any of this is a gal I knew as a child is married to a guy makes dentures and other such dental items.<br><br>
Sorry no advice, but is sure sounds to me like he needs to start all over again and not try to make ill fitting ones fit which sounds like a recipe for disaster.
 

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Well I know that this dentist takes the mold and then has the dentures made. But then when the adjustments are made, he does them himself. He is getting rather snippy which is hard to swallow when he has gotten over 2000.00 from us and over 2000.00 from our insurance, JUST for my dh's teeth, not includign what I have had done, but there will be more for mine. If he doesn't make this right, I for sure will be finding a different dentist as well, so he is also out that money.<br><br>
Dh just told me another piece of info, when he sat him up in the chair he also said that "when we take the mold, you still have teeth, so they have to GUESS how much gum you will have when your teeth are gone" Ok to me that says that they guessed wrong and they need to redo it!<br><br>
I was thinking that I would call another dentist tomorrow and explain the situation and get their opinions, but I also thought maybe someone here would have some suggestions or opinions on it as well.<br><br>
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Okay they never never should have taken the mold before pulling the teeth.<br>
thats about as dumb as keeping your braces on while they make a retainer mold...<br><br>
I am jaw surgery queen and any good dentist/denturist would know that the mouth is unpredictable and not really ever stable but to take a mold before pulling? I could see one before and one after to make the teeth like the old ones. Like you never know how much tooth was under the gum and I am sure he didn't send an xray and if they are being pulled I am also sure the gum is swollen etc....<br><br>
The fit might be bad for him but it also might be your husband, I just got my first retainer...and thats a small piece compared to a plate of dentures and they drove me crazy!<br><br>
I'd look into permanent screw ins or permanent 'dentures'<br>
as his dissatisfaction might also be the emmotional feeling of dentures, loosing his teeth etc.
 

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I think this dentist of yours is a jerk! What a total attitude! Yeah, if they guessed wouldnt they be expecting to do something like 'a fitting' before finalizing? Why the realignment in 6 months? is that what it takes for one or the other to have a chance to 'grow into' the mold? -obviously i know nothing about this but his manner is terrible and i'd be upset too.<br>
Hang in there!
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;">Okay they never never should have taken the mold before pulling the teeth.<br>
thats about as dumb as keeping your braces on while they make a retainer mold...<br><br>
I am jaw surgery queen and any good dentist/denturist would know that the mouth is unpredictable and not really ever stable but to take a mold before pulling? I could see one before and one after to make the teeth like the old ones. Like you never know how much tooth was under the gum and I am sure he didn't send an xray and if they are being pulled I am also sure the gum is swollen etc....<br><br>
The fit might be bad for him but it also might be your husband, I just got my first retainer...and thats a small piece compared to a plate of dentures and they drove me crazy!<br><br>
I'd look into permanent screw ins or permanent 'dentures'<br>
as his dissatisfaction might also be the emmotional feeling of dentures, loosing his teeth etc.</div>
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The fit is horrible. For an example, he can use fixadent on them but only on the back because that is the only place that there is contact with his gums.<br>
We are unhappy with the fit, there is room side to side on the tops as well.<br>
We are unhappy with his latest bedside manner and we need to figure this out.<br><br>
What are our chances of getting our money back on this? We can not afford to do them again, but we have to make this better.<br><br>
I figured it up and our cost is 2700.00 and the insurance paid 2000.00 so that is quite a lot for our dental bill, the dentures themselves were 1075 each plate.<br><br>
As for the realignment, I guess it is because your gums change after the teeth are removed. But everyone we have talked to has never needed this to be done.<br><br>
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I can't imagine why the dentist would think this was OK. That is a lot of money for something that doesn't work right! Of course it isn't going to be as if they were his original teeth, but that doesn't mean they should be uncomfortable and not fit properly.<br><br>
The dentist sounds like a jerk. I have no real idea how to make him behave properly, though. Perhaps you could complain to your insurance company? Let them know you aren't satisfied with the service. They may have some power, since he must be on a list of approved dentists for them to be paying so much of the bill?
 

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OK, I can't really speak about your specific situation, but I am a dentist, so I can tell you a few things.<br><br>
-what he had done...having the dentures made before the teeth are pulled is fairly commonly done. We refer to that as an immediate denture. You can choose to have dentures ready to go when the teeth are pulled. If you do not choose that option, you have to go toothless until everything has healed. 8 weeks or longer for healing and then time to have dentures made.<br>
For a lot of people, waiting that long without teeth is just not acceptable, although the wait does make fitting the dentures much easier.<br><br>
-there are drawbacks to immediate dentures. The lab DOES have to guess what the bone structure will be like when the teeth are pulled. These dentures are often loose, or at the very least, the fit changes over time as the bone heals and remodels.<br><br>
-Soft, temporary relining CAN be done in the interim to help improve the fit until the typical 6 months have passed and those dentures can be permanently relined for a better fit.<br><br>
I can't say if there is more to this or what kind of dentist you have though. I do these kind of dentures rarely, but I have never had someone choose to wait for healing either. Usually they don't present an issue but occasionally they do.
 

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I know that it is not uncommon for the dentures to be done this way, but there is a lot of space in these that are causing for the illfit. They are very uncomfortable. Being a dentist yourself if your patient came to you with this info, would you do everything possible to make these fit better knowing that you would want this person and their family to continue to use you as their dentist?<br><br>
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Here is an update on the situation. My dh called the dentist this morning and said that with the issues we are having that we were getting to the point that we were going to need a refund and we would go else where to someone who could make the dentures to fit since this dentist doesn't seem to be able to do that.<br><br>
Well the response was "we don't do refunds on dentures, you just need to come in and have the dr adjust them."<br><br>
I have called the licensing board and have the complaint form on the way and a call into another dentist for a 2nd opinion on it.<br><br>
Any other thoughts on this?<br>
Are we wrong to think that they should fit now since his gums will shrink more over time and by the time the 6 month mark hits they will not even stay in his mouth
 

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Yes...if I were the dentist I would have done EVERYTHING in my power to make them better. I have remade dentures for free (usually the lab doesn't charge either if they messed up). I have given refunds. I don't know what your dentist is doing, but I know that I bend over backwards for my patients.<br><br>
Sorry you are going through this.
 

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the issue might also be partly your dh like how he holds his mouth, tongue thrusting etc...<br><br>
but everyone gives refunds and why wouldn't he if your dh isn't 'functional'?<br>
like hello what else are the dentures for?
 

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Well that is our opinion as well. We go in next monday to a different dentist for a 2nd opinion on this. We know that from the way this dentist is acting it could take getting our lawyer involved, but that is not where we are trying to go.<br>
The dentures are not made properly. It is hard to explain it so that people can understand, but they are simply too big for dh's mouth. It isl ike they didn't use the right mold or something!<br>
Hugs<br>
Jessica
 
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