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A friend of mine has a daughter one week older then my Samantha. When they came home her daughter was an ounce heavier then Sam and today she is only 13 pounds where Sam is 15 pounds, 10 ounces. Needless to say she has doctors and nurses scaring the living daylights outa her over the slow weight gain. I should also mention that she is a very young (just turned 18) first time mom and she still very much trusts her doctor's advice as the word of god. The one saving grace is that she seems to think of me as some sort of mother earth guru who knows tons about this baby stuff, lol.<br><br>
So, her docs have been telling her to up the babies solid foods including giving her crackers and cherrios <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/img/vbsmilies/smilies/rolleyes.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="rolleyes">: I recomended co-sleeping and trying to get baby to nurse at least every two hours rather then pushing more solids. Any other ideas/ resources for her?<br><br>
Her baby seems perfectly happy and healthy to me but I could realy use some help getting her to relax about it.<br><br>
TIA<br>
MM
 

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what a dear freind you are!<br><br>
I think that the best thing you can do is speak from your heart about the way you parent/nurse and if she likes your input than she will accept it. sometimes i try to let people know that dr.s arent gods and that usually mom knows best. drs arent trained about bfing or parenting. they are trained to look for problems and fix them. a baby who is normal in everyway, including and especially his happiness, is not a problem to fix. tell her about the charts being based on formula babies (usually, it may have changed but i doubt it or that a dr would have that info unless they are pro-bf)<br>
be her freind and give her hugs.<br>
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Does the babe have plenty of wet and poopy dites? Is she alert and interactive?<br>
If the answers are "yes", I wouldn't give a rat's *ss how slow the weight gain was, as long as the babe was healthy and nursing frequently<img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/thumb.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="thumbs up"> Plus, those charts are for formula fed babes, not BF ones. You may want to mention that, as well, and have her ask her doc if he has any BF baby weight charts.
 

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I don't know how old this baby is, but if the baby is taking solids, make sure to tell the mom to nurse first as human milk is much more nutritionally and calorie dense than other foods. She doesn't want to replace milk with less nutritionally sound foods. Also, crackers and cheerios don't really have much fat in them. Something like avocado would be much more appropriate. Also, I have read recently that in other parts of the world, olive oil is often added to baby food to add fat and calories.<br><br>
All this is of course is if the baby is old enough that solids are appropriate.<br><br>
Dr. Jay Gordon has a great article on his web site that is called something like "Look at the Baby, not the Scale" that is very reassuring. Weight gain is just one tool in assesing how well a child is growing.<br><br>
And on a personal note, all my children have been very petite and just hanging on along the bottom of the growth charts. They are now 11, 8, 6, and 2 and healthy and smart.
 

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You don't say how much both your babies weighed at birth. There is no reason on earth your baby and her baby would gain at the same rate.<br><br>
The <b>average</b> bfed baby doubles his birth weight by 6 mos. Not all babies are average. Some babies, and moms and dads, are small. This is just genetics.<br><br>
Reducing breastmilk feeds (the perfect food) to add useless things like crackers and cheerios (potentially allergenic b/c of wheat content) is <b>terrible</b> advice.<br><br><a href="http://www.kellymom.com/bf/normal/weight-gain.html" target="_blank">http://www.kellymom.com/bf/normal/weight-gain.html</a>
 

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Be aware though, my doctor's nurse told me that "the average baby they see double's birth weight by 4 months"<br><br>
My baby is now 10 months and I think has FINALLY doubled birth weight. She took off like crazy in one month and gained 5 lbs.<br><br>
My answer to your friends questions would be to nurse, nurse, nurse. and if baby is reaching for mama's food maybe introduce solids.
 

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<table border="0" cellpadding="6" cellspacing="0" width="99%"><tr><td class="alt2" style="border:1px inset;"><i>Originally posted by kerc</i><br><b>Be aware though, my doctor's nurse told me that "the average baby they see double's birth weight by 4 months"<br></b></td>
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Consider this:<br><br>
Speaking of averages (if you are living in a hip place like parts of CA or OR, you will not fit, or if you are in a very conservative place like parts of the Southern US, YMMV):<br><br>
60% of new US moms bf in the first few days.<br><br>
the average US baby is weaned off the breast (if she ever got any) by 3 mos<br><br>
So, if you are in an average town, and you got the info, "the average baby doubles its weight by 4 mos," well chances are good she never got any breastmilk, and if she did, she is no longer getting any.<br><br>
So that statement is useless.
 

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Well, I just thought I'd add something I saw yesterday. I got a pamphlet in the mail a while back from Gerber about introducing solids. It says that baby should have doubled his/her birth weight and weigh at least 13lbs before even STARTING solids (thin cereal). That's what Gerber says, and they are trying to sell the stuff, so what does that *really* tell you <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/winky.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="Wink"> If the baby is that small, I would think that she should be feeding as rich and high caloric foods as possible. Also, I think that the baby must just be a petite build. As long as she is alert and happy, then she must be getting everything she needs. Hope the little mama can calm down some. It is worrysome to have Dr.s telling you this stufff <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/greensad.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="greensad">
 

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daryl, I totally agree with you. and told the doc's nurse so. luckily our ped. was VERY hesitant to take any steps beyond nursing. and now that dd has grown and blossomed, admitted to me that he was really worried about all of us -- me in the nursing part, dd in the not growing part, etc.
 
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