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Canadians - the Liberals have proposed to increase daycare funding, which ignores SAHMs, SAHD's, grandma care, casual babysitters, job shares, tlecommunting, etc - every way that we look after kids, except those in licensed daycare.<br><br>
Here's an easy way to register your disagreement with this - the site explains the issue better.<br><br><a href="http://www.livemarch.com/marchHome.jsp?marchID=73" target="_blank">http://www.livemarch.com/marchHome.jsp?marchID=73</a><br><br>
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Thanks for the info. Although I see this as an important issue, I don't think it will be enough to determine my vote one way or another. There are so many issues to weigh out!
 

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Sorry - I didn't mean to sound like I was trying to tell people how to vote in the actual election. I just thought this was a way to register your specific opposition to this one particular proposal.<br><br>
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I do agree that more needs to be done to support families who care for their children in their home, or who make other arrangements - my husband is a stay at home dad, and it's definitely difficult for us financially. More parity of treatment would be great.<br><br>
However...I don't see the point in pitting single-income families against dual income families. Presumably many of us make the choice to have one parent in the home because it is important to us to prioritize children's wellbeing, and in our own family, that way of doing it seems like the best fit. Children are in daycare for all kinds of reasons - some parents both work because they need the $$, single parents need good care for their children, and some parents really love their work and feel that they are better parents overall if they love what they do. Bottom line is, children deserve to grow up with great care, regardless of the source.<br><br>
Although my daughter isn't in daycare, I have absolutely no problem with services improving, waitlists decreasing, and $1000/month fees going down - because it's good for kids who are in daycare. When I was pregnant, I thought that I would need daycare while my daughter was still an infant. My choice was licensed group care - having seen the dark, tv-dominated basement of my stepdaughter's home daycare - but when I looked into it, I found that my city of 300,000 people had only 40 spots in licensed group care for infants!!! That's 40 total, none of them open, with long waitlists. That's simply not good for the children who are in need of care, for whatever the reason.<br><br>
I guess I don't see filling someone else's needs as taking away from mine - yes, I wish the government would do more about our situation, but in the meantime should I hope they do nothing for anyone else?
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;">Although my daughter isn't in daycare, I have absolutely no problem with services improving, waitlists decreasing, and $1000/month fees going down - because it's good for kids who are in daycare. When I was pregnant, I thought that I would need daycare while my daughter was still an infant. My choice was licensed group care - having seen the dark, tv-dominated basement of my stepdaughter's home daycare - but when I looked into it, I found that my city of 300,000 people had only 40 spots in licensed group care for infants!!! That's 40 total, none of them open, with long waitlists. That's simply not good for the children who are in need of care, for whatever the reason.<br><br>
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Excellent points. I for one am in strong agreement with the idea that I should pay for the services in my community, regardless of whether or not I use them. I love our social system here in Canada and hope to see it get better, not worse. Because of that, I'm happy to have my taxes to go to fund community programs I may never take part in.<br><br>
However, I don't think throwing $5 billion at licensed daycare is the solution to this problem. It's a bandaid solution, meant to patch the holes rather than determine why the issue is there to begin with. I think advocating better early learning and childcare programs is a grand idea. So how about putting money toward cheaper housing so fewer families need to have two parents working just to pay the bills? Or community programs where parents can drop off their kids for a couple of hours when they have something they need to get done but no support around to help them? Or more subsidized daycare programs for parents who really need the help?<br><br>
No offence against people who have more and can afford to do it without government help (because I am one), but why should money go to support all parents who use daycare rather than working with those that really need the help?<br><br>
I think the government is wrong in thinking that this is what the Canadian people really want. I don't want them to make it easier for parents to leave their kids with strangers. I want them to make it easier for parents to choose not to. Consider how this money can be better used - through community support programs for those who need it, when they need it, not with a blanket policy that rewards one parenting choice at the expense of another.
 

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Some excellent points have already been raised. I'd just like to add that the promise of more daycare funding and support for parents has been made many times before, and is always broken or watered down.<br><br>
As much as I'd like to see increased funding and more spaces available (especially since the wait lists I'm on are for 1-3 years!), this one issue isn't enough to determine my vote.
 

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Just wanted to add that there is a thread about the election that is ongoing and discusses all 5 major parties and their platforms (some more than others). I want to thank Janice for posting in with another angle for Mothers in Canada to be aware of.<br><br>
This is a vital election....lets empower ourselves and vote effectively!<br><br>
The other thread is in TAO...whos following the canadian federal election.
 

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Just watching the PM's conference with the "real" people and Peter Mansbridge from CBC. I think it was in Winnipeg this afternoon? A woman asked some awesome questions about the day care plan, and made some spectacular points. Anyone here know who it was? Any chance it's a mama that hangs at MDC? <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/orngbiggrin.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="orange big grin">
 

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I saw part of that too - she asked some great questions. He was pretty dodgy with his answer, though. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/img/vbsmilies/smilies/eyesroll.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="roll">
 

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What did she ask??<br><br>
It's such a shame that children's development issues are always the first thing to be shelved post-election - very discouraging. Not to mention that they're rarely even presented as children's development issues, health issues, or education issues. It's all just presented as being about the cost of babysitting, which is just the tip of the iceberg...
 

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You can watch the item on CBC here:<br><br><a href="http://www.cbc.ca/national/#features" target="_blank">http://www.cbc.ca/national/#features</a><br><br>
"Click on watch the national online"<br><br>
Then the whole, one hour newscast is available. Go to about minute 27, she'll be on next, the redhead from Winnipeg.<br><br>
I imagine this video will only be available until tonight.<br><br><br>
She was amazing, and really hung in there. You can see Martin looking over at Mansbridge to bail him out of this speaker, and they just let her go on and on!!!<br><br>
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<img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/smile.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="smile"> Bumping this because this issue is very important IMHO <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/smile.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="smile">
 
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