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I never get canker sores while pregnant...but when I'm not, I get at least one BIG one every 2 or 3 weeks. They last about a week at a time...and they are so painfull. I just got over a bad one about 2 weeks ago, and now I have another very painfull one. They sometimes get to be the size of a skittle/smartie. When the canker sore hits it's "peak", I can't even talk to my own children because it hurts so bad. I asked a doctor about this after my 1st son was born (so about 1 year ago) and he said that some people are just prone to get them and that i cant do anything about it. I have read it can be caused by hormone problems. Should I just go demand blood tests to check my hormone levels or can I take something herbal or whatever to level out my hormones? Anyone have any ideas?
 

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Hi there! I'm not sure why you get them so often or so serverly, it sounds miserable! <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/greensad.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="greensad"> You should probably bring it up with your doctor again. Anyway, to relieve them in the meantime you can bite a fresh green grape in half and rub it on the canker sore a few times a day. My grandmother was always prone to them too, and this worked wonders for her, usually they were gone within a day or two. I hope it works for you too! Good luck! <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/smile.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="smile">
 

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I don't know anything about taking hormones, but I too get canker sores alot, and the one I get are very painful. (sometimes I'm not even able to eat) Anyway a couple of years ago, I found the quickest cure. It is called oral cleansing antiseptic, I got it at CVS, I'm sure you can get it at any drugstore, I just got the generic store brand. But it is awesome, I apply it about 3-4X a day and after one day the sore is usually almost gone. HTH! I feel your pain.<img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/img/vbsmilies/smilies/hug2.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="Hug2">
 

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What really helps my and my dd is L'lysine. As soon as I notice that I have one coming on I take a big dose of it and it doesn't even come out. It dries right back up.<br><br>
Gosh, we used to get them all the time, too. Since we both take the L'lysine right away, we don't even seem to get them any more.<br><br>
My nephew gets them also. So one day I suggested it to him. He bought a huge bottle of it because he gets them so often, about 6 months ago and just the other day he e mailed me saying they work really well for him. Turns out he never got another canker sore since he bought the bottle of L'lysine.<br><br><img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/lol.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="lol"><br><br>
Hope it works like that for you, too.
 

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I agree that lysine supplementation can be helpful if you are prone to cold sores, but don't take it every day, b/c you can build up a resistance to it. Lemon balm and licorice root tincture, used both internally and externally on the sore, is amazingly effective. If you feel one forming, prompt use of lemon balm and licorice can prevent it from getting any worse. Also, topical use of calendula oil is effective and soothing.
 

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Oh for sure don't use the L'lysine every day. ONLY when you feel a cold sore coming on and then hit it with a pretty big dose. Thanks for the reminder vermontana.
 

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You can get Lysine at any health food store and sometimes even in the vitamin section of the grocery store.<br><br>
You may also want to look at the toothpaste you use ... I know many people who react badly to most of the big brands (Crest is a really big culprit as is Colgate). If you think that might be it, try switching. As well, your diet might be too acidic ... you might want to look at really increasing your probiotic intake (homemade yogurt and kefir are best ... or take capsules such as Kyo-Dophilus); they will help to prevent/reduce canker sore and cold sore breakouts. One of my homeopathic books suggests <i>Sempervivum 6c</i> for "ulcers inside of mouth, gums bleed easily, whole mouth very sore, worse at night ...". so that might be an idea to use when you feel one coming on to see if it helps heal it more quickly. HTH - I have herpes simplex 1 and know how painful cold sores inside and out of the mouth are. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/greensad.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="greensad"> (The biggest thing for me in getting them under control - I don't even remember the last time I had a cold sore - has been working on my gut flora and vitamin/mineral supplements ... it seems getting my overall body chemistry in order has helped to balance my system and make me much much less prone to breakout.)
 

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I get these as well, and just about as frequently....tend to pop up during very stressful times too. Someone once told me to pour salt on them - DON"T DO THIS!!! It didn't help and it was pain I would never wish on anyone <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/blush.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="blush"><br><br>
As I understand it, Lysine works on cold sores more than canker sores, although I would suppose it depends the cause of the canker sores. Someone metioned toothpaste. I would look into that, because I notice canker sores pop up for me if I've been chewing gum recently....especially mint gum. Hmmmmm.<br><br>
I'm going to try the grape idea though.<img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/winky.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="Wink"><br><br>
And now you have me thinking of the hormones, because my canker sores seem to be less frequent now that I'm done nursing my youngest...seems my hormones are SLOWLY settling into their new place of a non-childbearing lady!<br><br>
Well, don't know if I helped...but I sympathize with you!!!
 

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Ok, here's one of those "not sure that's helpful" remedies - I put a drop of tea tree oil directly on mine, and HOLY FREAKIN CRAP it hurts, tastes terrible, and for a moment you wonder "WHY did I do this???" but the sore is gone by the end of the next day, if you do it first thing in the morning. An herbalist told me about this after I had my wisdom teeth out and the dentist cut my mouth all to shreds with the instruments.
 

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Alum! My grandmother swore by it and always put it on ours when we had them growing up, and it works! It's my understanding that hormones play a big part in them, thus why teens are more prone to them also.
 

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Canker sores are a problem for me too. I have a m&m sized one on my inside upper lip right now, ouch!<br>
Small ones are common and not worriesome unless you get alot of them or get them frequently.<br>
I've read that they are autoimmnune in nature and are caused by acidic gut/mouth environment, stress, hormonal changes, viral illness, injury to the mouth (like dental tools rubbing on an areas, or a mouth guard or retainer rubbing a certain spot), B vitamin or mineral deficiencies, and food allergies. Huge ones and ones that occur frequently can be a sign of an underlying autoimmnue disorder.<br>
Most of the treatments I know are medical (taking note of the natural remedies, thanks!) and include steroids, antibiotics (for secondary infections) and a swish solution of liquid benadryl mixed with liquid antacid and liquid viscous lidocaine.<br><br>
But I have heard that avoiding toothpaste with sodium laureth sulfate can help prevent them. Apparently this is a big culprit for alot of people. I know that regular toothpaste in contact with my canker brings tears to my eyes. I've been using baking soda. Making a mild saline rinse with salt and warm water can help relieve pain as well as a warm water and baking soda solution to swish with. Also, dabbing on a liquid antacid (any of them) can put out the fire instantly.
 

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My grandmother taught my mother to wet a teabag and rest it on the canker sore. Regular old black tea. The tannic acid was supposed to be helpful.<br><br>
I had them as a child, and don't remember the tea bag hurting at all (just the yukky taste of black tea to a child).<br><br>
My mother ALSO took something called CamphoPhenique (I assume oils of camphor and phenol,) put some on a qtip and onto the canker sore. Don't know if those are good or bad chemicals OR if it's even sold any more!
 

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The one I am "suffering" with now is about the size of an M&M now too. Hurt like heck! I go to the dr monday though to ask about a few things, and I'll ask her about the hormones, allergies, etc. I'm going to start keeping a food diary now too just in case it is allergies.
 

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It's a mineral. Generally in any health food store but I've seen in at Walmart in the vitamin section also.
 

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babygrant-<br><br>
Definitely try switching toothpaste. I used to get horrible canker sores too. Huge sores that felt like they were taking over my mouth, it would hurt awfully to talk and I did not eat for days. Then I read about chemicals in commercial toothpaste that causes the sores. I switched to <a href="http://www.tomsofmaine.com/" target="_blank">Tom's of Maine</a> and have not had one since. Honestly, it changed my life! (No, I don't work for Tom's--any natural toothpaste or baking soda would work too.)<br><br>
I would try that first since it is a simple change and easy to fit into your life. You can by Tom's almost anywhere. It is available in most stores (Walgreen's, Target, regular grocery stores).<br><br>
HTH, I feel your pain <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/greensad.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="greensad">
 
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