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Uggh.<br><br>
Sorry to all the first time moms, but now that this is my second, shouldn't I be able to leave the confusion and hours of fruitless research to someone else?<br><br>
I know I should probably ask over in Family Safety rather than complain about it in my DDC, but after hours of reading car seat forums I just don't feel like it. After all my searching, I've decided I need to find a magical convertible seat that rear faces to at least 40 lbs, if not 45, but also will install comfortably behind the driver's seat or in the center position of my tiny Imprezza so I can leave the Boulevard RF on the passenger side (after we're done with the bucket).<br><br>
If such a seat dosn't exist, I'll probably end up having to replace the Boulevard with a narrower convertible so the passenger outboard/center configuration works because DH swears hes miserably uncomfortable with Boulevard behind him (although it looks close enough to me for safety). I think DH just really wants to turn DS FF after talking to his parents who are much more into convenience than safety.<br><br>
Sorry done venting. I feel like MDC is the only place on earth I can find other mamas concerned with keeping their kiddos RF as long as possible and I'm tired of fighting for it.
 

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Car-seat.org forums are good for this and very searchable. You can probably find pics or at least a description of what will fit.<br><br>
I just ordered 3 Radian XTSLs - they RF till 45 lbs, but I don't know how that would be in an Impreza. We have a Sedona minivan so space is not an issue.
 

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I have a Radian XT for DD that is RF. Takes up a ton of space front-to-back in my Toyota Corolla (awesome and slim width-wise). The front passenger seat is pushed so far forward that no one can sit up there and it wouldn't be safe anyway b/c they'd be so close to the airbag.<br><br>
I have been so, so frustrated with carseats, too every since I starting looking before DD was born. I don't know why the whole thing has to be so hard.<br><br>
I'm annoyed right now because DD's old Chicco Keyfit bucket seat also only installs behind the passenger seat (even in the middle position the bucket seat touches the drivers' seat which is a no-no for my car). Not sure what we're going to do. DH's old 4Runner does allow the car seats to touch the front seat (we have a second Radian installed in his car and it touches the front seats although the bucket could go in too without touching) but his car is really old, no side airbags, no stability control, etc.
 

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I decided to post over at car-seat.org. Will see if anything comes up. There doesn't seem to be a ton of info on shortest front to back ERF seats but there are so few I guess you just try it out and see if it works.<br><br>
tribord that sounds so frustrating! In some ways, I'm glad we don't have Advanced Airbags in this car so the seat is allowed to touch. It gives just that extra little bit of room.<br><br>
DH seems to have finally gotten how important this is to me and we started negotiating how much room he really needs to drive comfortably - nothing crazy, just whether he can sacrifice another notch upright for his children's safety. Seems like it is working out better and we'll go try out these seats soon.
 

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Where do you find info on what's allowed to touch what? Is that in the car's owner's manual, or online somewhere? I only briefly looked at my manual and should probably get it out again, but I don't remember seeing anything like that in it.<br><br>
I've got a 2009 Volvo convertible that I think I can manage to continue using even with a carseat. We inherited a bucket seat from a friend, and it seems to fit, but maybe I just don't have all the info I need to be sure everything's safe?
 

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XM--Since your DD is a toddler, can you try a more upright installation of the Radian (if you haven't already)? It's hard to do, but for older RF kiddos, it's safe to have them more upright than 45 degrees, and that could give you more space in the center position. Then you could install the KeyFit outboard? Just a thought...
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;">Where do you find info on what's allowed to touch what? Is that in the car's owner's manual, or online somewhere? I only briefly looked at my manual and should probably get it out again, but I don't remember seeing anything like that in it.</div>
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It was in my owner's manual that nothing should be touching the back of the front seats because it would interfere with the airbags.<br><br>
Our car seat manuals didn't say anything about touching, but the tech who checks our seats says it is safer for them not to touch because they need room to move a bit during a collision. However, I recall also reading online somewhere that it is safer to have them braced against the front seat. So from the kids' point of view I'm not sure which is better if you have the option.<br><br><div style="margin:20px;margin-top:5px;">
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I have no issues with her being more upright, but I'm not sure how to get the seat to install more upright. Before I spend her whole naptime over at car-seat.org do you have any quick tips? <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/smile.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="smile">
 

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While you ladies are discussing this, I have a question maybe you can answer.<br>
We also want to keep our kids rear facing for as long as possible, but it gets to the point where their legs are all scrunched up and they are basically sitting cross-legged in the seat (I think this happens between 12-18 months for us). At that point I turn them around. DS1 only weighs 44lbs right now at nearly six years old and though there are seats that RF until 45lbs, there is no way my six year old could be rear facing. How does this work?
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;">We also want to keep our kids rear facing for as long as possible, but it gets to the point where their legs are all scrunched up and they are basically sitting cross-legged in the seat (I think this happens between 12-18 months for us). At that point I turn them around. DS1 only weighs 44lbs right now at nearly six years old and though there are seats that RF until 45lbs, there is no way my six year old could be rear facing. How does this work?</div>
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DD has room for her legs to be kind of straight out, but she prefers them crossed, thrown over the side of the seat or some other contortionist position. I assume if we turned her FF she's still cross them. I can't imagine having them dangle in the air would be too comfy.
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;">I have no issues with her being more upright, but I'm not sure how to get the seat to install more upright. Before I spend her whole naptime over at car-seat.org do you have any quick tips? <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/smile.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="smile"></div>
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I don't; I'm sorry. My car has lots of room behind the passenger for our Radian RF. I mentioned it b/c one of my friends is a carseat tech, and she suggested it once. I think it's something you just have to play with? If you do find out anything at carseat.org, let me know!
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;">I have no issues with her being more upright, but I'm not sure how to get the seat to install more upright. Before I spend her whole naptime over at car-seat.org do you have any quick tips? <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/smile.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="smile"></div>
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They just suggested this to me at car-seat.org - copy and paste:<br>
To get a more upright install:<br>
1.) put the car seat into mechnical recline for RF as the insrtuctions tell you to do.<br><br>
2.) put the car seat onto the vehicle seat RF<br><br>
3.) pull the base of the car seat out from the back of the vehicles seat bight (where the bottom & back meet) about 1/2-2 inches<br><br>
4.) run the vehicles seat belt or the LATCH strap through the RF belt path<br><br>
5.) install as you normally would, except when tightening the seat belt or LATCH strap, push down where the child's feet would go, not their bottom.<br><br>
6.) when the seat is nice & tight, with less than 1 inch of movement at the bely path only, your seat will be more upright.<br><br>
Keep repeating untill you have the seat at 30 degrees. If you pull the seat out to right at 1 inch, then that should help you to achive it faster.<br><br><br>
ETA: PS- this is the suggestion for my Boulevard so you might not have the same mechanical recline part. There are other suggestions around too if just that doesn't work for you.
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;">While you ladies are discussing this, I have a question maybe you can answer.<br>
We also want to keep our kids rear facing for as long as possible, but it gets to the point where their legs are all scrunched up and they are basically sitting cross-legged in the seat (I think this happens between 12-18 months for us). At that point I turn them around. DS1 only weighs 44lbs right now at nearly six years old and though there are seats that RF until 45lbs, there is no way my six year old could be rear facing. How does this work?</div>
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Well, mean mommy here but, comfort be darned. DS just usually sits with his feet up on the seat, or crosses them. I know it will only get worse but I don't care at all for him to be as safe as possible. Right now, he is not uncomfortable in his seat. The only thing that gets tricky is the seat back gives him all kinds of leverage to fight me when he doesn't want to be put in so it is pretty much impossible just to forcibly strap him in.
 

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Thank you! I'm planning to pull out the car seat in the next month or so so I can clean it and my car and DH and I can give this a try when we put it back in.
 
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