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Ok, my husband just picked up two safety first alpha omega elites from freecycle. They are in EXCELLENT condition. 3 years old. The lady assured me they were never in an accident, even a minor one. She also said she was the only owner. They were barely used. Came from a very nice home. I plan to get new harnesses for them. And they will be for my husband's truck, just so he has seats for when I am not around, which is not often. We have the super Britax boulevards in my car. I am very paranoid about car seat safety, and usually would never do this, but I have given carseats away on freecycle, and they were ok, so what so you all think?<br><br><br>
**Ok, so when my husband got these home, come to find they expired May 2009. So I guess you just never know. I ASKED this lady when they were manufactured, she said she couldn't find the date, but that they were only 3 years old or so. NOT! It must have been meant to be for me to get these though, because now they will definitely be getting recycled and nobody's child will ever use them <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/smile.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="smile">**
 

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I wouldn't take a used carseat unless I personally knew the owner and trusted them implicitly. Free is nice, but a child's safety is priceless.
 

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As I said on the other thread, no. Even nice people from nice homes can lie. If you don't know this woman personally, it's not worth the risk to take over an item that is designed to save your child from death or serious injury. A food processor? Sure, go ahead <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/wink1.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="wink1">. The device that is supposed to keep your child from becoming a vegetable in a children's nursing home? Nope.<br><br>
If you showed up at a checkpoint, you would fail on the question "Do you know the complete history of this seat?" The seats would be confiscated.
 

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No, I wouldn't use those. Besides the potential safety issue, there's the fact that they probably won't fit your 3 yo.
 

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You guys are totally right. Sigh. What should I do with them? Bring them to the thrift store? Re-freecycle them?
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;">You guys are totally right. Sigh. What should I do with them? Bring them to the thrift store? Re-freecycle them?</div>
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If you want to be environmentally friendly, look for a car seat recycling place (there are a few, but not many unfortunately.) You could also see if the local car seat colation or SafeKids coaltion needs seats for training purposes. Do not put them back into the general population, though. For all intents and purposes those seats are no longer 'safe' to use.<br><br>
You could also destroy/recycle the shells, but remove the covers and freecycle them to someone who needs an extra cover <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/thumb.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="thumbs up">
 

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I'm kind of torn as to what you should do with them, because there ARE people who use used seats regardless of what they're told. And those people will often used used seats found in a back alley, 10 years old, over the head shield, cracked, missing parts, etc. Assuming these seats have no visible signs of damage (stress marks and/or cracks in the shell, etc.) and aren't expired, they've got to be better than the type of seat I mentioned earlier.<br><br>
The background section on this page is useful to read <a href="http://www.nhtsa.dot.gov/people/injury/childps/ChildRestraints/ReUse/RestraintReUse.htm" target="_blank">http://www.nhtsa.dot.gov/people/inju...raintReUse.htm</a><br><br>
I am in no way advocating use of a seat with unknown history that may have been in an accident, I'm just pointing out that a newer seat with NO visible damage is not likely to have been in a moderate or severe collision and if in a minor collision, would be safer FOR PEOPLE WHO WOULD USE an expired, over the head shield, with straps that no longer tighten and have been degraded by the sun, cracked and stressed shell, etc.<br><br>
If you are NOT a person who would use the latter mentioned seat, then I wouldn't use these either.
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;">If you showed up at a checkpoint, you would fail on the question "Do you know the complete history of this seat?" The seats would be confiscated.</div>
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OT, but-- what??? At what sort of "checkpoint" is this question asked, and who confiscates car seats? I have never heard of anything like this.
 

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Yikes, I'm glad you got them rather than somebody who would happily use them for the next few years!
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;">OT, but-- what??? At what sort of "checkpoint" is this question asked, and who confiscates car seats? I have never heard of anything like this.</div>
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I was wondering the same thing. What if you arrived at the checkpoint with children in those seats, would you be forced to stay there until someone could deliver new seats to you?<br><br>
It doesn't seem legal that someone could just confiscate a person's carseats.
 

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No no, we replace expired/unknown history seats with new ones free of charge; I assume this is whar she meant, and it's never forced. If someone wants to keep their old/expired/broken/etc seat we just document it.
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;">No no, we replace expired/unknown history seats with new ones free of charge; I assume this is whar she meant, and it's never forced. If someone wants to keep their old/expired/broken/etc seat we just document it.</div>
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Oh! Well, that's nice-- I was just imagining *forced* confiscation, and I couldn't imagine how that would work... Thanks for the info <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/smile.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="smile">
 

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**Ok, so when my husband got these home, come to find they expired May 2009. So I guess you just never know. I ASKED this lady when they were manufactured, she said she couldn't find the date, but that they were only 3 years old or so. NOT! It must have been meant to be for me to get these though, because now they will definitely be getting recycled and nobody's child will ever use them <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/smile.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="smile">**</div>
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Yup. Even nice people in nice homes lie, unfortunately <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/greensad.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="greensad">
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;">No no, we replace expired/unknown history seats with new ones free of charge; I assume this is whar she meant, and it's never forced. If someone wants to keep their old/expired/broken/etc seat we just document it.</div>
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RIGHT! The whole point of a checkpoint is that the children leave safer than they came in. If we confiscate a product, it is replaced with a FREE, BRAND NEW, AGE AND SIZE APPROPRIATE child restraint <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/winky.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="Wink"><br><br>
As a general rule, we take the inappropriate seat (unless of course it was a safe, non-expired, uncrashed seat that could be used for another child of a different size).<br><br>
On a few occasions we had a parent dig his heels in about giving up the seat. We tell them that is their choice to bring it home, because it belongs to them, but the police officer will deliver a few choice words about how they have been put on notice that it is illegal to use and that if he ever catches them, he'll write a huuuuuuge ticket, blah blah blah. That's generally enough for the parent to quietly relinquish the crap <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/orngtongue.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="Stick Out Tongue">
 

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So I politely let this freecycle lady know these seats were expired, and was really nice about it- like, "oh, no biggie, I will dispose of them properly. Glad they came to me so there aren't other children with parents who didn't pick up on this riding around in them"<br><br>
Well she was rude! She said she never in her life heard of carseats expiring, and that they were mine to keep, but she would prefer if I gave them back to her because there were plenty of other people who wanted then and would use them anyway!<br><br>
Um, NO! No way I would od that in good faith. i thought for sure she would be mortified to have given someone expired seats, but that was not the case.<br><br>
I sent her some links to carseat expiry info and crash test videos. Maybe she will learn a thing or two!
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;">So I politely let this freecycle lady know these seats were expired, and was really nice about it- like, "oh, no biggie, I will dispose of them properly. Glad they came to me so there aren't other children with parents who didn't pick up on this riding around in them"<br><br>
Well she was rude! She said she never in her life heard of carseats expiring, and that they were mine to keep, but she would prefer if I gave them back to her because there were plenty of other people who wanted then and would use them anyway!<br><br>
Um, NO! No way I would od that in good faith. i thought for sure she would be mortified to have given someone expired seats, but that was not the case.<br><br>
I sent her some links to carseat expiry info and crash test videos. Maybe she will learn a thing or two!</div>
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What year were the manufactured? I have never seen an expiry date on a seat, just a manufacture date and Alpha Omega seats are good for 8 years. I just gave mine to my SIL, it was manufactured in February 2005 and should be good until the end of 2012
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;">What year were the manufactured? I have never seen an expiry date on a seat, just a manufacture date and Alpha Omega seats are good for 8 years. I just gave mine to my SIL, it was manufactured in February 2005 and should be good until the end of 2012</div>
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Mine has an only use until Dec 2015 stamped into the plastic on the bottom.<br><br>
I can't believe the lady was so rude to you!
 

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They weren't alpha omegas- I thought they were. Not sure what they were. Safety first something. But the manufacture date was May 2003, so I assume they are expired. I thought 6 years was the rule of thumb for most seats?
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;">They weren't alpha omegas- I thought they were. Not sure what they were. Safety first something. But the manufacture date was May 2003, so I assume they are expired. I thought 6 years was the rule of thumb for most seats?</div>
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From what I've heard most are 6 years so those would definitely be expired. I've been told that Alpha Omega is good for 8 years.
 

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If you take a look here <a href="http://blog.safetysquad.com/photos/safety_1st/s1st_fr.html" target="_blank">http://blog.safetysquad.com/photos/s...t/s1st_fr.html</a> it gives you a walk through with pics on how to find the expiration on a Safety 1st seat.
 
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