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Here's the new thread. Hope you're all doing well. It's a wonderful day here! Tuesday - the sorrowful mysteries. Doing a decade with the kids during morning prayer.<br><br>
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Me too <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/smile.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="smile">
 

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<img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/wave.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="wave"> Good Morning Ladies.<br>
Anyone up for a '10 Tough Issues' discussion. Two of my friends/clients went to regular Bible study and one of the times they covered the 'tough' issues for Catholics. I'm not sure what they all are but I am sure we can come up with most of them.<br>
I don't necessarily mean to debate them but while training a convert Catholic I learned sooooo much! She is a scholar and very devout in the faith <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/smile.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="smile"> I think there are issues we should be concerned about as Catholics that many of us were never educated about.<br>
Here are a few I can think of off the top of my head:<br>
Birth Control<br>
IVF/Fertility issues<br>
Sex - what's condoned & what isn't<br>
Natural Death<br>
Divorce/Annulment<br><img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/confused.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="Confused">: Ok, I'm drawing a blank.<br><br>
I am the first to confess I don't follow all of the rules but from an apologetics standpoint I like knowing the reasons behind the beliefs and even if I don't follow them I think it's important not to be ignorant to the stand the church takes on these issues.<br><br>
Anybody up for this or is everyone too tired of having these discussions with oposing non-Catholics?<br><br>
I thought it would be good to be enlightened and maybe see a few "I didn't know that - thanks for the info"<br><br>
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I am here subscribing too! I have got some really good news. I just got a phone call that my kids got into the Catholic school we really were hoping for!!!! I am going to home school ds#2 and my nephew but the other 3 will all be at the same school!!!!! DS#1 will remain at his school for the arts. I am really excited - can you tell? This school is a Montessori based Catholic school - how cool is that? Now I really need to get started on my plans for home schooling. Amy expect a few pm's from me :LOL.<br><br>
I am going to join a Padre Pio novena group at my parrish tonight. It is such beautiful devoution. Of course of will be praying for all of us here to continue growing in love and faith.
 

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I'm in!<br><br>
First off, can I ask for BIG prayers? I got a very faint line on an EPT pregnancy test yesterday. I'm very nervous since my miscarriage a couple of months ago so I'm not really considering myself pregnant yet. I haven't even told dh because I want to get my blood drawn first. I guess I shouldn't be posting it here for the world to see but I don't want to freak him out unnecessarily, KWIM? Anyway, please pray that this is a "sticky" pregnancy. I am really ready for another baby. Dh has really relaxed his NFP "rules" lately, obviously, so here we are. Thanks and I'll keep you updated.<br><br>
That said...Birth Control - I learned SO much from the Theology of the Body class I took with mcimom and ColleenM this past winter. It really helped explain why the sexual act should always be considered a union not only with our spouse but also with God and being open to bringing more people into the world that will also be followers of God. The family is so very important, raising a family is the most important thing we can ever do. Using one another as instruments for our own satisfaction but not procreation is like saying that you are denying what that person's body is really for. Of course sex is supposed to be enjoyable but it's also suppose to bring about the possibility of new life. It is not always in our "plan" but is ALWAYS in God's plan. It is important to discuss it monthly with your spouse. NFP is about communication. Why is it a good or bad idea to add another member to the family right now? What can we do this month to make the steps to solve the issues we have? What are our values? How would our other children handle a new member right now? All are very important to discuss.<br><br>
I have to go now but that is a little to chew on. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/smile.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="smile">
 

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I'm visualizing a Pac-Man smiley! :LOL<br><br>
Amy, you're in my prayers.
 

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Ok, if anybody is interested I e-mailed my friend and there are 12 tough issues:<br>
Contraception<br>
Abortion<br>
Authority (church authority)<br>
Women's ordination<br>
Priestly celibacy<br>
War<br>
Capital punishment<br>
Economic justice<br>
Artificial conception methods<br>
Homosexuality<br>
Conscience formation<br>
Divorce & remarriage<br><br>
The book is called Twelve Tough Issues by Archbishop Daniel Pilarczyk. There's a revised version called Twelve Tough Issues & More... I think he revised the original 12 with updated church documents, etc, and added euthanasia and maybe stem cell/cloning and politics.<br><br>
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<img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/hug.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="hug"> Amy - Wishing our DH's could meet <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/smile.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="smile"><br><br>
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Amy - Praying for a <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/sticky.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="sticky"> babe.!!!!!!!!!! <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/love.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="love"><br>
Novena to St Gerard Majella for sticky baby<br><br>
Oh Great St Gerard, beloved servant of Jesus, perfect imitator of thy meek and humble Saviour, and devoted Child of the Mother of God: enkindle within my heart one spark of that heavenly fire of charity which glowed in thine and made a seraph of love.<br><br>
O glorious St. Gerard, because when falsely accused of crime, thou didst bear, like thy Divine Master, without murmur or complaint, the calumnies of wicked men, thou hast been raised up by God as the Patron and Protector of expectant mothers. Preserve me and my unborn child from illness and danger. Shield the child which I now carry, that it may see the light of day and recieve the lustral waters of baptism and become a servant of our Lord, through Jesus Christ our Lord. ~ Amen<br><br>
OK, that said, here is my first theology question. What in the heck is a seraph?
 

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From my Catholic dictionary:<br><br>
seraphim : Heb., plural of seraph. The highest of the ninie choirs or orders of angels described by Isaias in his vision.<br><br>
Seraphic Blessing : May the Lord blessthee and keep thee. May he shew his face to thee and have mercy on thee. Mayb he turn his countenance to thee and give thee peace. May the Lord Bless thee, brother Leo.<br><br>
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Hi,<br>
Thanks for starting the new thread.<br>
Ekblad, may your baby be sticky if it be God's will.<br><br><br>
I have one more tough issue- the truth of the Bible. I get so confused because some of the stories don't match, like who found the tomb empty? Each book tells a slightly different story and I'm the type of person who wants to know for sure~ very analytical. A priest from one of those question/answer sites told me that some of the details don't matter, but the Holy Spirit makes known what needs to be known.<br><br>
I have a question. Does anyone have a recomendation for a Catholic Bible geared toward young teens? My 12 yr old dd is above the little kids' Bible, and has trouble understanding the regular Bible. I looked on Amazon and I couldn't decide. Also, what about some sort of work books to learn about the faith? We're home schooling through the district next year and will use their curriculum and I want to suppliment with something religious.<br>
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email Patrick at <a href="http://www.seedsoffaith.com" target="_blank">www.seedsoffaith.com</a> (email is <a href="mailto:p[email protected]">[email protected]</a>). He has a bunch to choose from and would know what to recommend. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/smile.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="smile">
 

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<a href="http://www.smp.org/AlternateDetail.cfm?AltId=2" target="_blank">http://www.smp.org/AlternateDetail.cfm?AltId=2</a><br><br><a href="http://www.aquinasandmore.com/index.cfm/FuseAction/store.ItemDetails/SKU/18755/Category/3/AEB8363F-65B8-D4D4-DDB9179B1C647C5A.htm" target="_blank">http://www.aquinasandmore.com/index....9B1C647C5A.htm</a><br><br><a href="http://search.barnesandnoble.com/booksearch/isbnInquiry.asp?userid=34Y93OHC1L&isbn=0310928168&itm=7" target="_blank">http://search.barnesandnoble.com/boo...10928168&itm=7</a><br><br>
We've been using this with our Youth Group, and they really like it (it's just the NT, though):<br><br><a href="http://search.barnesandnoble.com/booksearch/isbnInquiry.asp?userid=34Y93OHC1L&isbn=0718003586&itm=9" target="_blank">http://search.barnesandnoble.com/boo...18003586&itm=9</a>
 

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I use "Catechist" magazine extensively with my 5th grade RE class...I get wonderful ideas and insight. Can't say enough good things about it.<br><br><a href="http://www.pflaum.com/catechist.htm" target="_blank">http://www.pflaum.com/catechist.htm</a>
 

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Oh, wow, thanks everybody. I think these resources will work well for us. That one New Testiment one looks like something that'll really apeal to dd. In the past I tended to use materials that were above her head (a problem the first time around at home schooling). I need to let her be herself while teaching her about our faith so it can become part of her as she grows, not just something on the side that mom makes her do. KWIM? What great resources you have given us. Thank you so much.
 

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Ok,<br>
How about we pick one tough topic per day so that it's not too overwhelming <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/smile.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="smile"><br>
Having said that we just got hme from the gym and I have 4 hungry kiddos.<br>
In my best coffee talk voice <i>The topic is <b>Contraception</b>... Discuss.</i><br>
PS I would love to hear ALL views and what does and does not work for you and how you reconcile your choices with the teachings of the church.<br><br>
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We have used nfp in the past, and will again at some point... I stopped charting about a year into ttc Iris because it was painful to see that we were doing everything at the right time and still no baby. (It took 2 years to get pregant, but that's another story!)<br><br>
DH and I are open to what happens, though he isn't sure he is ok with having another after he's 40, several years away. I am sure I have a different view on nfp/ etc since we have infertility problems than, say, my friend with 6 kids who gets pg really easily, though they use nfp as well.<br><br>
These discussions will be interesting, especially since I am a divorced/annuled and re-married Catholic.
 
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