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I'm currently a provisional Bradley instructor. I'm *very* unhappy with my dealings with the Bradley Academy and I'm beginning to see that I'm not too happy with teaching Bradley anyway (not that I don't see tremendous value in it - I just don't think it's the right thing for ME to teach). Anyway, I'm really struggling with whether or not to continue with them. I know that once I'm certified I will next to never have to deal with the Academy again (which is the primary source of my pain) and I've invested so much time and money into it already that it will be hard to walk away from. I currently live in a place where I'm not too sure I could get students without the Bradley name so that's a major issue. I can barely get students now. I'd love to hear suggestions on what you all think might be right for someone like me. Here's what's bothering me about what I teach:<br><br>
- I'd like to condense the info in the first 3 classes into something that I mention but don't harp on (nutrition, exercise, fetal development). I don't like spending a full class on each topic. We don't even begin to discuss childbirth until the 4th week which seems an awfully long time for the students to wait to hear what *I* think they're paying to hear.<br><br>
- There are 2 classes on 1st stage & 2 on 2nd. I'd prefer to just teach 1 class on each.<br><br>
- The last class is about the new baby and goes into how to parent to a degree. I really want to teach about BIRTH. I feel preachy telling them how to parent, even if I *do* agree with what we're telling them. I can't help but wonder if the students didn't know they weren't going to spend 12 weeks learning about birth, kwim?<br><br>
- Although Bradley gives me the freedom to interject my earthy-birthy philosophy into things a bit, I still would prefer to be more direct with this. I think I'd just like to be trusted to teach the class the way I see fit. Once I'm certified they really won't know the difference unless someone should complain. But ideally I'd like to just teach the way I want without worry.<br><br>
I think that what might suit me best is to develop my own curriculm and be an independant teacher. But will I get ANY students that way? I really do want to be active in the birth community and help to make a positive difference. I'd much prefer to being midwifery training but my kids are very young and I'm not even done yet. I plan to wait until they're in their teens which leaves me an awful long time to fill.<br><br>
Advice appreciated.<br><br>
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will you email me?????? I know what you are feeling and I think I can help you. I am a Bradley teacher.... Please email me. there are things I want to tell you but I don't want it posted to the public. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/mischievous.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="mischief"><br>
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Just emailed you. Thx!
 

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Hi ,<br>
It must be pretty tough finding out what you have invested so much time and energy in is not giving back.<br><br>
I am considering going down the ALACE path. I also feel my job is to "mentor" about birth and informed choice rather than preaching about parenthood and what to eat. This course is adaptable to your own needs. They set a basic outline and then you can adapt (it says in their own words) to suit your clients and area.<br><br><br>
I also know what you mean about the name. i am actually from the UK and am taking the University of Luton/National Childbirth Trust diploma in antenatal education (1/2 way through) but am doing ALACE alongside because i felt that my NCT qualification may not be recognised when trying to find clients. Much as I don't like the thought of a name meaning something, it can be a big help in the early stages when trying to find clients.<br><br>
I suppose with all the time you have invested into this, if you can finish you at least won't have to do it all over, but, it must be really really hard doing something you are having reservations over <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/greensad.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="greensad"><br><br>
Good luck in whatever you decide to do
 

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I just attended a 3 day training to become a CBE for Hypnobabies and I am thrilled about it. The founder is a former Bradley teacher of something like 10 years. She became unhappy as well with many things that she was teaching.<br><br>
The Hypnobabies class is taught in 5 separate 3 hour sessions. The first class is an intro and goes into what exactly hypnosis is and how it can be applied to birth and then starts right into the anatomy of the woman's body and the baby (uterus, placenta, etc). The second class hits on nutrition...<br><br>
I really feel like it addresses everything that needs to be addressed in a fairly concise way.<br><br>
But....there is one *huge* difference between Bradley and Hypnosis and that is the main crux of the classes. Hypnosis and more particularly Hypnobabies is about using medical hypnoanesthesia to create a pain-free birth. From what I understand Bradley is more about embracing the pain in order to birth. This is a huge and fundamental difference in the two approaches. I do believe that some people need to have a Bradley like method (my sister is like this). But many, including myself, do not. I have had two babies born using hypnosis. My first I used the Hypnobirthing method which is not as comprehensive in so many ways to the Hypnobabies method. I still felt very in control until transition and even then was able to relax a lot more than most. However my second birth was absolutely wonderful, 95% pain free using hypnosis. I had no idea that my baby was posterior, he was actually born posterior, and I had no back labor. I was completely present and involved with both births, in fact more like having a heightened awareness. I was up and about in between contractions (birthing waves) and then when one would come on i would use my hypnosis and relax and the waves really did feel like pressure. I had a 6 hour labor and I felt wonderful.<br><br>
So you would have to think about how you feel about childbirth and if this would ever jive with you.<br><br>
Many of the ladies in my training were already child birth educators with no official affiliation. They had their own websites and networked with local healthcare providers. One had a great idea of buying some birthing balls that had her name and practice's name (she's a professional hypnotherapist) and leaving 6 of them at one of the hospitals that she attends births at. I think there are a lot of creative ways to market yourself. Don't feel locked into educating in one way esp. if it doesn't completely fit with your philosophy. Good luck!
 

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When I took Bradley classes, our instructor personalized the lessons to fit our needs. We were taking private instead of group lessons, but there was another couple taking them with us. We skipped around in the workbook, and condensed a lot of classes. I think we took six or seven instead of twelve. Why can't you change the lesson plans to fit the students? It only makes sense to do that. If they need more help discussing breastfeeding, focus more on that subject. If someone is hesitant to listen to the dangers of certain interventions, focus more on that. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/shrug.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="shrug"> I think if I were you, I'd go ahead and get the certificate so you can use the Bradley name, then do what works for you *and* your students.
 

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I'm currently considering becoming a CBE and one of my remaining choices for certification is Bradley. I'm wondering what you decided and how things are going for you since you posted.
 

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I ultimately decided to not continue with Bradley. At this point I still could (I'm still listed with them) but the new year will be here soon and I'm opting not to renew my affiliation. I just am not happy representing the Academy, think they need to update a few things - simple things like the "coach" terminology and a few other things to move them into this century - and being the tight-knit family run <span style="text-decoration:underline;">for-profit</span> biz that they are, I just don't see these things happening. It's too bad too, because they have lots of wonderful teachers who have volunteered to step up & give their time & expertise to really grow TBM into something extra-special. Anyway, I'm pg now and not up for teaching (or much of anything) at this time so I'm just going to take a break from everything for awhile, read a lot more, and find the "method" (or whatever) that fits best with my heart.<br><br>
Unfortunately I think it's going to be hard to know if you fit in with them until you've already invested your time & money. Really in my case I chose them b/c it's what I had taken when I was pg with my first and besides Lamaze (which I knew I didn't want to teach) I didn't know of anything else. I'm guessing that if you're on MDC (and I see you post plenty) that you know there's more out there and have done your homework. That was my own mistake/learning experience. Oh, and I've spoken to lots of other teachers who do not agree w/the Academy at all but are fine teaching for them since once you actually finish your certification you really don't need to deal with them again. So that might work for you. It just doesn't for me b/c injustice just doesn't sit well with me (I guess I love the fight and can't just leave things alone :LOL).<br><br>
Feel free to PM me if you want any behind the scenes info - I'd be happy to tell you what I know.
 

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many of the folks who started with Bradley style- changed/ shifted to a more "mother" centered approach-- the group I use-to-teach with based in Portland (NBA) had bought the movies and sent them out on loan when you showed them- things like that- now we have VCRs and can own our own copies of movies we want to show--- I think it is important to meet the needs of your clients and if they want something different than the format you are teaching then adapt it
 

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I know you had mentioned that you did not want to teach Lamaze, but I think it would be a good idea to investigate all of your options and make sure it is truly not right for you. The Lamaze organization and it's philosophy have really shifted in the last several years and all of the "hee-hee-hoo" breathing that we have seen on tv, is no longer the focus of Lamaze and it's newer instructors. The philosophy is now much more in line with my personal philosphy about normal birth. I have been really happy and enjoy writing my own curriculum and teaching what I believe. A lot of local Bradley instructors are having issues similar to those that you described and have considered certifying through Lamaze. Just another option you may want to explore!
 
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