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DP and I just spent the entire weekend in an intensive Birthing from Within course. It was indeed intense but a lot of fun too!<br><br>
Is anyone else attending prenatal classes?
 

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My old man and I did a BFW prenatal class with our daughter's pregnancy. He really got a lot out of it so it was well worth the money!<br><br>
No classes this time - they just don't work out since my husband has been traveling so much lately. Blah.<br><br>
Here's my new issue - maybe somebody else can relate (??), but my vulva/labia are sooo swollen, raw and sore. I was having discharge last week (more than my usual amount during a non-pg time, but nothing to write home about, yk?), a little itchy, a little "puffy" (not really swollen, but something was going on), etc. Then we had some really rough sex on Saturday and not I'm really swollen, pretty itchy and the same amount of discharge. I'm trying to figure out if this is normal or not. I see my OB next week so I can bring it up to him if it doesn't get better, but I'm really not enjoying this right now. Thoughts?
 

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that sounds awesome Carmen. I did the BFW book solo, and I bet the class was *really* helpful! how did your partner like it?<br><br>
AFM, here's my update: nothing new <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/smile.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="smile"> Which is good I guess. I made it a week in the hospital, and we're creeping our way toward 34 weeks (this Saturday). I've talked to every doc here, my homebirth midwife, and the hospital midwife, the neonatologist and probably every nurse too... and the best place I can be right now is here with quick access to care if something went south quickly. It is nice to have the support of my hb midwife, because believe me it is hard to choose to stay in the hospital over fighting to go home.<br><br>
Little Dominic is doing great on the NST's so that is good. I'll be doing another u/s today to see how the fluid levels are doing in there. I'm harboring secret hopes that they have gone back up since my leaking isn't as severe as when we first came in. I'll definitely update.<br><br>
I miss my home, my family, etc. I'm so glad to have such a rockstar hubby who has totally risen to the challenge of taking over my position as CEO of our household <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/smile.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="smile"> He works really long hours (16 or so) when he works, and graveyard shift too, so my mom just takes our son for the days that he works. My little boy seems to be growing up too <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/greensad.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="greensad"> and is taking this all like such a big dude. He's already adjusted to our new "norm" of visiting mommy in the hospital and then having to leave. It is so hard watching him grow and change from afar... normally they grow and change with us right there!<br><br>
I'm doing fairly well mentally, I do have my moments of wallowing but for the most part I've had a lot of wonderful friends & fam coming to visit, and give me a myriad of things to do. I appreciate all of your kind words & thoughts as well!<br><br><b>Remijo</b>, I was so sorry to read about your dog. Big hugs, it is hard to make that decision even when they're doing really poorly <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/hug.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="hug"> I know you have lots of wonderful memories about your dear friend.<br><br>
hope everyone has a fabulous week!
 

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Regina - I didn't know you guys already picked out a name. Dominic sounds lovely!
 

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Carmen- That class sounds great! I have that book and love it! I am doing Hypnobabies Self-study course this time around. I love it!<br><br>
Angela- Are you sure it isn't a yeast infection? Other than that I am not sure what could be going on down there. One of my labia is puffy, but that is from the pressure of the babies. It has stopped being painful though.<br><br>
Regina- So good to hear from you! Like Angela, I don't think I knew your baby's name! Maybe I just forgot. I love it! Hang in there mama!<br><br>
I am doing pretty good. No more contractions! YAY! The babies have really slowed down their movements and it sometimes scares me. Thankfully though, I am seeing the midwife about once a week now. I go back tomorrow and I am looking forward to checking in on them. I am slowly cutting down on our to-do list. But everything is just so overwhelming right now. Kinda stressing about getting everything ready for the birth/ babies AND Christmas.
 

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Angela - it sounds like a yeast infection. You can get quick relief from plain yogurt (internal : ) or a raw garlic clove (also internal. Attach it to some thread to make it easier to pull out). Both are safe during pregnancy, as per Aviva Jill-Romm's Natural Pregnancy Book.<br>
What a bummer. You'd think we get some kind of bodily break being pregnant, you know?<br><br>
Regina - Great news! And that's wonderful of your husband to take over without complaint. Not that he has much of a choice, but still <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/img/vbsmilies/smilies/joy.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="joy"> Cute name!<br><br>
Carmen - I just got that book from the library. We're not doing an official course this time but I am doing the Hypnobabies home study course. It's going okay, sometimes the scripts drive me crazy and I can't even listen to them.<br><br>
nummies - I hear you on worrying when the baby(ies) aren't as active. In your case, they are getting bigger and probably running out of room faster than singletons. Glad you're feeling well.<br><br>
We're good. My family and DH's family are coming in for Thanksgiving. I was planning on cooking (which I'd still prefer to do) but everyone (well, the Moms) are pushing for takeout/catered or going out to a restaurant. Sigh. I know they just want to make it easier, and frankly our apartment is way to small to fit 7 adults and a Thanksgiving feast. The thing is, we still have to eat every other meal for the rest of the week and I have NO INTEREST in takeout/restaurants for an entire week. Bleh.<br><br>
I so need to be working on my sewing and crafting to do list, but I find myself unable to spend my free time doing anything but surfing the internet. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/orngtongue.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="Stick Out Tongue">
 

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I should have mentioned this earlier, but my clitoris is the only itchy part. I think I've only had one other yeast infection in my life and it was an internal itch...which is why I didn't put the two together.<br><br>
Felicia - you're funny because I'm in charge of Thanksgiving this year and am thinking of catering out the whole event! I hate cooking. With.A.Passion.
 

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Angela, I must have been typing while you posted! I didn't see yours til now.. anyways, I had an experience last week with my labia... just on the outer edge, like where the skin is still mucous membrane, I had itching & weird soreness. I took a look with a mirror (and much contortion, lol) and I could totally see a vein right at the surface. I wrapped an icepack with a paper towel and went and laid down with it for a while, probably about 15 minutes. I reapplied the ice pack a little later & after that no probs. Not sure what caused it, but it didn't return. If it's just your clitoris hurting then hmmm, not quite sure. I know we have a lot of blood flow going to the hooch right now, and things are definitely engorged, so that combined with your passionate lovin' might have just irritated stuff. I'd try ice and if that doesn't work, maybe a bit of yeast med for a few days. I have had an external yeast infection before. Hope it wraps up quickly!<br><br>
Mandie, that's awesome you have no more ctx! keep it up girl <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/smile.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="smile"> holidays + new baby is stressful enough, but you are throwing 2 into the mix! hang in there, I'm sure this year the holidays will be a big blur for all of us.<br><br>
Falicia, could you get the meal catered from Raley's/Bel Air? something like that? then you could have a nearly home-cooked meal without having to cook it in your place. I hear ya, when you've been eating out too much it does NOT sound like a treat!<br><br>
thanks guys! I love the name Dominic too, it really seems to fit him. It's my grandpa's name, he died when I was 13 but we had a special bond. My son came out red haired & blue eyed; I'm curious to see if this little guy will take after the Italian side (my side) with his name <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/smile.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="smile">
 

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Mandie - how many weeks does your MW think you'll make it with twins?<br><br>
Regina - any word on if they'll let you out at a certain point to deliver at home?
 

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My partner got a lot out of it. I think the "intensity" of the labour and actual birth is a little more real for her now. Not that she was being naive about it - she just doesn't read about it and discuss it with others as much as I do <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/winky.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="Wink"><br><br><b>ratrodgrl</b>, glad to hear things are stabilizing with the new "arrangement" <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/smile.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="smile"><br><br>
Yay for no more contractions, <b>nummies</b>!
 

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We went through BFW with our first pregnancy & really loved it. Even DH said it was worth the time & money. We aren't taking anything this time around though...I'm totally cool with it since I've had 2 births under my belt now. I just hope & pray this birth is smooth & uncomplicated. I can handle length-I just don't want to transfer from our home.<br><br>
Glad to hear everyone is doing relatively well.
 

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We did BFW with our first and really loved it. I would like to meet privately with a BFW leader in our area to work through some issues.<br><br>
Angela- I had an atypical YI a few months ago. If the trouble persists, might be worth a trip to the drugstore for one of those tests you can do at home now.<br><br>
Regina- I'm happy to hear everyone is adjusting to the temporary new normal. I hope you are doing okay with all of this!<br><br>
Mandie- YAY! Great news!<br><br>
Mary- Glad to hear you are doing well too!<br><br>
As for us, we saw JingleBelle on ultrasound on Friday at 32 weeks exactly and she is HUGE! Estimated weight was 5lbs 7oz and she is in the 90th percentile. She measured 34w4d. This is typical for us and I am not alarmed. We had a biophysical profile done and she passed with flying colors.<br><br>
We put up the Christmas tree last night and I only have three more weekends to work. I am really ready to meet my baby.<br><br>
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I am here. And I cannot believe how fast time is flying!<br><br>
I am in the middle of one of our birthday seasons. Just had one daughter's birthday, DH's is this week, and another daughter's birthday next week. Not to mention Thanksgiving!<br><br>
My head is dizzy in just trying to keep up!
 

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Nummies- yay for no more contractions!<br>
ratrogrl- leaking fluid is not good- I hope things go more smoothly from here out!<br>
remijo- I'm sorry to hear about your dog<br>
falicia- we had thanksgiving last month (canadian), but I'm planning on doing a full-out turkey dinner for DD's birthday- birthday/American Thanksgiving extravaganza! I was GOING to do it Nov 28- her actual b-day- but then SIL made her christmas party the 28th (grr) so now I'll probably have to push it into December. Bummer.<br><br><br>
We're not doing a prenatal class with this baby. We did one with DD, and DH was an AWESOME support person, so I think we're good to go this time.<br><br>
Also- thank you everyone for the well wishes for my dad.<br>
He is almost back to normal- yay! It turns out ALL of his problems were caused by hospital errors. He went in with a bowel obstruction, they told him no food or water until it passes. This is where it went wrong.<br><br>
First Error: gross miscalculation of body weight, he was underhydrated by 7 litres of fluid. He was so underhydrated that hospital #2 was scared to move him (after hospital #1 delayed his transfer to an ICU by 5 hours so they could "work on his chart") to run any tests. We're talking ADVANCED dehydration. The kind an 8 yr old kid in Scouts would be able to spot.<br><br><br>
Second Error: too high sodium content in the IV they hung. His sodium was so high by the time they got him into a DECENT hospital, they were rushing him in for CT scans to check for brain swelling and had him on watch for seizures.<br><br>
Third Error: they put in a tube to help drain stomach acid with his bowel blockage. It slipped because it wasn't taped properly, they just retaped it with the SAME piece of tape (they didn't even put on a second piece) and then left him alone, no one checking him, for 6 hours. At this point he was so out of it from dehydration and excess sodium that he didn't notice. The tube slipped, he inhaled stomach acid, and ended up with a very severe case of pneumonia. The dr at hospital #2 said only several hours worth of aspiration would have caused that kind of damage.<br><br>
Fourth Error: refusing to listen to his chest OR call a dr when he started complaining about pain and difficulty breathing. Ignoring his extreme labouring for breath.<br><br>
Fifth Error: ignoring a drop in blood pressure (his normal is high- 130/86. It dropped to 90/50-something and the doctor said "it's normal"). His heart rate also shot up from 80 to 120 and no one was worried.<br><br>
If mom hadn't gone in when she did and raised hell (literally SCREAMING at the nurses to make the doctor come in the room) and demanded a transfer, he would have died. When he arrived at the ICU at the second hospital, they said if his transfer had been delayed by even 1 more hour, he would have died. I'm just SO freaking ANGRY at this stupid hospital. My mom overheard his dr telling one of the nurses, "this man would have been better off staying at home and drinking 7 litres of fluid from a garden house. There isn't one thing that stupid hospital didn't screw up."<br><br>
The visit was gruelling- lots and lots of driving, waiting in dirty waiting rooms, tons of money spent on fast food and hotel rooms and gas, no one slept properly, and now DH, DD and I all have nasty colds. I'm so glad to be home, so glad that my Dad is going to be OK, and am now even MORE frightened to wind up in hospital to have this baby.
 

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Astraia- Sounds awful! It also sounds very familiar. Some of those things happened to my grandma last year and she passed away because of it. Thankfully your mom raised hell about it!<br><br>
Amy- Glad things are going well with your BIG girl! <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/smile.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="smile"><br><br>
Angela- Right now, we have no reason to suspect that I won't go all the way with these babies. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/smile.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="smile"> I am hoping for sometime after 37 weeks though.
 

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Astraia, that's terrible that they made so many mistakes at that hospital! I am reading the book "Overtreated" right now and it talks about those sort of things happening. It makes you just hope that you don't have to go into a hospital ever! I am glad he is doing better!!!
 

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Wow. Are you guys going to formally complain to the hospital, Astraia? (Sorry, I have no idea how the Canadian structure works and if there's a complaint avenue.)
 

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My mom is writing a complaint to the hospital and has a consult with a lawyer tomorrow to talk about something more formalized. Not sure what yet- neither does she- but we're hoping the lawyer can tell us what we can do.<br><br>
We don't care about $ or suing or anything like that, we just want to make sure that the people who screwed up really know they screwed up and never do it again. So many things went wrong, with so many different nurses and doctors, it almost seems like they were TRYING to kill him. It's mind boggling.
 

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GL with the consultation, Astraia.
 

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Yow, Astraia! That is awful! I hope your dad heals well and soon!<br><br>
No prenatal classes for me this time. I do have the Birthing from Within book, and am rereading portions as a refresher. I go for my next midwives appointment including GTT tomorrow, 29 weeks now. Babe has been moving a lot lately, and likes hanging out on the left side...I feel her butt under my ribs a lot. I am going to my in-laws and parents (long drive) for Thanksgiving week, so at least I don't have to cook! <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/smile.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="smile">
 
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