Child dies from abuse, parents used Pearls

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gridley13

Discussion Starter · Mar 28, 2006

I apologize if this has already been posted...

http://www.newsobserver.com/102/story/418676.html

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· #2 · Mar 28, 2006

I don't think it matters where she got the "advice".
She killed a little boy and should be held accountable for her actions.
Not only did she kill a 4 year old, but it was a 4 year old whose parents thought they were giving him a better life by putting him up for adoption.

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aussiemum

· #3 · Mar 28, 2006

I think it does matter from where the murderous parent got her information, mitb. According to the original link, the Pearls have sold 400,000 copies of their book on parenting 'advice'. That's helluva lot of abused children, imo, & the more bad press the Pearls get, the better. People need to know that if you follow their advice, you could kill your child.

Not saying at all that she shouldn't be held accountable....

dallaschildren

· #4 · Mar 28, 2006

The Pearl's have a website right? And with that website they are able to reach a whole lot of people. They are able to sell their disgusting books easily. So, I went to godaddy.com and looked up two domain names for websites that could be set up as an anti-Pearl. One could link articles etc and have people make comments on them...whatever. The sky is the limit. I came up with www.stopnogreaterjoy.com and www.stopnogreaterjoy.org as domain name possibilities and as of right now they are BOTH still available! So if someone were to register both of them and then set up simple websites using a cheap host provider, they could effectively speak out against their techniques.
Domain registration is relatively inexpensive...about 7 bucks a year....a host provider would be about 7 bucks a year also. I have a good host provider recommendation for someone if you need one.

I posted the above on the other thread about this child last week. The sites are still available if anyone is interested. ????

DC

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· #5 · Mar 28, 2006

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Originally Posted by aussiemum
I think it does matter from where the murderous parent got her information, mitb.

Why? What happened to personal responsiblity for your actions?

I think ppl use the Pearls as a way to commit atrocities upon children and not feel personally responsible.

Just like the Rap musicians and the news saying that children who shoot other children did so because of the music.

I am sure their are thousands of parents who have read the Pearl's and have not killed their children.

Rather than rag on the Pearls, why not work on promoting a better parenting book that does not advocate violence of any kind?

If the Pearls can reach a million ppl, we could work on reaching a billion ppl, kwim?

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DoubleOven

· #6 · Mar 28, 2006

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simple living mama

· #7 · Mar 29, 2006

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Originally Posted by MamaInTheBoonies
Why? What happened to personal responsiblity for your actions?

I think ppl use the Pearls as a way to commit atrocities upon children and not feel personally responsible.

Just like the Rap musicians and the news saying that children who shoot other children did so because of the music.

I am sure their are thousands of parents who have read the Pearl's and have not killed their children.

Rather than rag on the Pearls, why not work on promoting a better parenting book that does not advocate violence of any kind?

If the Pearls can reach a million ppl, we could work on reaching a billion ppl, kwim?

I like what you are saying here but I also like putting some energy in to discrediting the Pearls.

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pumpkinsmama

· #8 · Mar 29, 2006

there is a thread in Activism about this and Amazon selling the book. The whole situation is disgusting!

ETA: I believe that it is vital to inform those thousands of parents who read Pearl's and haven't killed their children...YET of what they risk. ITA with putting energy into discrediting their books and any like them, as people are reading and believing they are safe methods of rasing children. The idea of thousands of children being raised by people who would buy a book like that is sick! I'd like to disbelieve that those parents would intentionally kill their children, however. They need to know the danger.

goodcents

· #9 · Mar 29, 2006

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Originally Posted by MamaInTheBoonies

Just like the Rap musicians and the news saying that children who shoot other children did so because of the music.

Give me a rapper and a quote MITB. Back up your statements please.

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· #10 · Mar 29, 2006

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Originally Posted by goodcents
Give me a rapper and a quote MITB. Back up your statements please.

Why? What does it have to do with the OP?
Or are you just happy to see me online again?

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Victorian

· #11 · Mar 29, 2006

keep in mind that the books are also being used in some church-based parenting classes to show parents the ONLY way that god approves of raising children.

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· #12 · Mar 29, 2006

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Originally Posted by simple living mama
I like what you are saying here but I also like putting some energy in to discrediting the Pearls.

I understand, now and ITA. It just seems so much energy is used to "defeat evil" and not enough is used to "spread love", kwim?

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· #13 · Mar 29, 2006

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Originally Posted by Victorian
keep in mind that the books are also being used in some church-based parenting classes to show parents the ONLY way that god approves of raising children.

Now, that is a scary thought.

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Victorian

· #14 · Mar 29, 2006

I completely agree. And it is affecting A LOT of normally sane people.

goodcents

· #15 · Mar 29, 2006

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Originally Posted by MamaInTheBoonies
Why? What does it have to do with the OP?
Or are you just happy to see me online again?

Because your making a comparison, and a poor comparision at that. Not to mention that is completely without merit unless you are able to backup your statements.

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· #16 · Mar 29, 2006

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Originally Posted by goodcents
Because your making a comparison, and a poor comparision at that. Not to mention that is completely without merit unless you are able to backup your statements.

ITA. It was apoor comparison. I have never been good at such things.

I just don't think the mother in question should be acquitted of her crimes because of the Pearls.

calicokatt

· #17 · Mar 29, 2006

I don't think that was anyone's intent. At least I hope not.

CerridwenLorelei

· #18 · Mar 29, 2006

reporter Mandy Locke. It was about homeschooling/the pearls/robert fugate/etc
If you are interested in some of it you can email me off forum.
I haven't seen the follow up article yet after we talked but then I haven't been here and looked...

goodcents

· #19 · Mar 29, 2006

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Originally Posted by MamaInTheBoonies
ITA. It was apoor comparison. I have never been good at such things.

I just don't think the mother in question should be acquitted of her crimes because of the Pearls.

so then edit your OP if you concur that it was a poor comparison. not only that it likens violence to rap, and while some rappers engage in violence many do not. it doesn't help to add fuel to the fire when it comes to rappers and stereotypes.

Oceanone

· #20 · Mar 29, 2006

How does someone so lose their sense of self-reliance and self-trust that they could overcome their natural protective instincts and wrap their screaming babies in blankets so tight they die? Or whip them with piping? All because some Christian discipline book says so? I am so shocked and revolted.

Churches have no business advocating this sort of sickening behaviour. That is so screwed up.

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