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About six months ago I attended a conference for women to support each other through graduate studies in my field. It was an out-of-town Friday-Saturday conference and I brought with me my six-week-old boy.

There was no real breastfeeding room set up, and certainly no child care, and I was the only one who had brought a child to the conference. I contacted one of the organizers in advance and mentioned that I would need a space to breastfeed and/or pump, and she said I could use her hotel room. (I did not; instead I breastfed in the back of the seminar rooms and in the hallways -- anywhere the baby wanted to nurse. Because, after all, aside from the conference staff, we were all women.)

The baby slept through the morning seminars in my front-pack like a champ. However, after lunch, he became less patient and more fussy. It was a challenge... but we would leave the seminar room when he started crying, and everywhere I looked I got encouraging, understanding, or curious smiles.

If leaving in the middle of a lecture, I would approach the speaker later and apologize. She would say, "Oh, don't worry, honey, I have one at home. I think it's great you brought your little one!"

Near the end of the first day, the organizer, the one that had offered me her hotel room earlier, came up to me as I was nursing my grumpy baby outside the main lecture hall.

"Do you plan to bring your baby tomorrow too?" she asked.
"Yes," I answered. "Why?"
"Oh..." she said, "one of the other organizers was wondering. They find it kind of disturbing to have a baby here."
"He's just six weeks old," I said. "I don't have anywhere else to leave him."
(There was a pause as I died a little on the inside.)
"Well, it's OK, don't worry about it. It's fine." She said, blushing.
"I'm sorry," I stammered. "There is no other way."

She went away and chatted with the other organizers as I sat wondering which one has a problem with a six-week-old. Or with breastfeeding.

I have been thinking about this encounter for a long time. I wish I could have said something more. Something about how graduate student women should support one another, and how this is exactly the reason I came here with a baby.

Life does not end when you have a baby, and it's unfair to assume that graduate student women that have a baby either (a) stop coming to these kind of events, or (b) find childcare for their too-young infants.

I came to the event expecting unilateral support from the other women (which I received, except for this one case). I used the baby as an icebreaker, because graduate student women frequently have questions about starting a family.

Instead of feeling empowered as a new mom and a continuing student, I left feeling undersupported and underrepresented. I felt like a minority, and like I nearly was asked to leave. And instead of remembering the positive encounters, I remember this one best.

So, I've been thinking about this event and wondering if I should contact the organizer (the one that implied I shouldn't have brought my baby) and write her a letter. And if so, what should I say?

Thanks for reading.
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I think you should contact her. You could post your letter here for suggestions (if you want) before you send it to her.

I didn't have kids while in grad school, but I do remember the extreme pressure I felt in graduate school to put everything else (family, the job paying my way through school, friends, outside interests) on the very back burner - in a kitchen in a different house!
: Depending on your field of study, that pressure may be more or less - mine was anthropology. There were some very cool profs who absolutely 'got it' and were very supportive, but I had a friend who, when he told his thesis advisor that he and his wife were expecting after years of infertility, was told, "Great. One more thing to distract you from your thesis."


I do think that there continues to be a dichotomy in terms of what women who are in graduate schools (and in society in general) believe, in terms of balancing family/outside life with academia and professional careers. You may have bumped up against someone who believes that children are not compatible with that .... I do think she needs to be reminded that the glass ceiling is enough to struggle against, without women pulling each other down as well.

I had a lot of great profs whose children were very much a part of their academic lives -- but there is just a tremendous fulcrum applied in grad school, IMO anyway.
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I think contacting the organizer to discuss both the good stuff and the bad stuff in your experience at the conference is a good idea. Presenting the bad stuff as concrete suggestions for how to improve attendees' experience next year is probably the most constructive approach.

Work/family balance is really a big issue in academia these days. It shouldn't matter if the conference was all-women or not -- there needs to be space in our professional activities for our caregiving responsibilities.

Graduate students are at a huge disadvantage in this realm, b/c university parental leave policies for employees don't apply to them. You have this tiny baby, are newly postpartum yourself, and you're still attending conferences -- what dedication to your work! AND you're thinking of how to make it all work better for other grad student mothers -- what commitment to your community! YOU GO!
It sounds like the problems are more with the baby himself than the nursing. It also sounds like you did what you needed to do to minimize distraction as much as possible. It might be a great segue into topics involving balancing family life and school or how being a mother impacts academic life or if the field is more social science gender constraints, attachment theory, feminism and family, or breastfeeding in the modern world.
I'm sorry about the way you were treated, but I'm really impressed that you're able to continue your graduate studies with a 6-week old! Whoo!
I'm so sorry you've encountered this behavior
I agree wih HappyFox05 though- Great Job and good for you!!!

I think you should definately write a letter. Too many of us mom's encounter this behavior, because that's what it is to me- it's not quite discrimination, or any kind of harrasment, it's bad form lol. I would hope you could write a letter to help them prepare for this possibility in the future. I could see being frustruated over a 5 or 6 MONTH old- but a new born???? No chance in hockey pucks. Kudo's to you too over your respect for the presenters and other ladies there by ensuing you did everything you could to keep the distraction to a minimum. If they don't see it, then oh well.
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Graduate students are at a huge disadvantage in this realm, b/c university parental leave policies for employees don't apply to them. You have this tiny baby, are newly postpartum yourself, and you're still attending conferences -- what dedication to your work! AND you're thinking of how to make it all work better for other grad student mothers -- what commitment to your community! YOU GO!
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it is really really hard having kids in grad school. i am dissertating myself, and well, sometimes i get really down on how hard it is to teach, research, and afford the child care i need in order to teach and research when i'm making next to nothing.

i'm super-impressed, OP, that you even attended a conference with a 6 week old. if i'd been there, i'd have totally been receptive and supportive. i am ALWAYS receptive to mothers bringing their kids around the academic environment--it is so incredibly brave and HONEST, and when you do that, you are paving the way for the next person. it might not seem like it, but i promise you, you are!
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Thanks for the kind words of encouragement, everyone.

I'll be drafting up a letter to send to the organizer with (hopefully) some constructive criticism and ways to improve next year's experience. I didn't mention that I was fully-funded at this conference when DS was 6 weeks. The organizers may have been upset that I wasn't "fully utilizing the resources" or something, because I was stepping out frequently. But -- one of the big goals at these events is to network, and I was sure doing a lot of networking.

I am going to another all-women conference in a few weeks with DS, now 8 months. This one is much better funded and has on-site complimentary child care and a nursing room. When I was there last year (4 months pregnant) there were several women students and faculty that were willing to talk to me about the school + babies thing. I'm looking forward to seeing the same women again -- now with an infant.
No advice, just hugs.

I'm sorry you had to go through that.
To me it sounds like the issue was with the baby, not the nursing.

Which honestly, I can understand. It sounds like you did everything you could to minimize disruption (sitting in the back and leaving right away if he started fussing). As working mom, in a field that is no way birth/baby-related, I would consider it totally innapropriate for me to bring a baby to any work-related event without prior permission. I am adamently pro-bf (and pumped at work for 15 months) but just showing up with a baby at work is not something I think a mom or a dad should do without arranging it in advance.

I totally understand that you couldn't just drop the baby off at daycare on the way to an out-of-town conference on a weekend, but I don't think the way you handled it was the best either. In the future I think you need to ask if it is ok to bring your nursing infant, and respect their decision if they say it isn't ok.

I have seen this come up even in birth/baby related fields- say a multi-day training class for doulas, or whatever. Sometimes they have no-baby rules, because either the mom ends up missing the class because she takes the baby out at every peep, or the rest of the class ends up disturbed when the cranky baby stays in class. My point is that it isn't a grad-school-specific phenomena.
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I totally understand that you couldn't just drop the baby off at daycare on the way to an out-of-town conference on a weekend, but I don't think the way you handled it was the best either. In the future I think you need to ask if it is ok to bring your nursing infant, and respect their decision if they say it isn't ok.

I have seen this come up even in birth/baby related fields- say a multi-day training class for doulas, or whatever. Sometimes they have no-baby rules, because either the mom ends up missing the class because she takes the baby out at every peep, or the rest of the class ends up disturbed when the cranky baby stays in class. My point is that it isn't a grad-school-specific phenomena.
I was under the impression she did ask about the baby/nursing before hand.
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To me it sounds like the issue was with the baby, not the nursing.

Which honestly, I can understand. It sounds like you did everything you could to minimize disruption (sitting in the back and leaving right away if he started fussing). As working mom, in a field that is no way birth/baby-related, I would consider it totally innapropriate for me to bring a baby to any work-related event without prior permission. I am adamently pro-bf (and pumped at work for 15 months) but just showing up with a baby at work is not something I think a mom or a dad should do without arranging it in advance.

I totally understand that you couldn't just drop the baby off at daycare on the way to an out-of-town conference on a weekend, but I don't think the way you handled it was the best either. In the future I think you need to ask if it is ok to bring your nursing infant, and respect their decision if they say it isn't ok.

I have seen this come up even in birth/baby related fields- say a multi-day training class for doulas, or whatever. Sometimes they have no-baby rules, because either the mom ends up missing the class because she takes the baby out at every peep, or the rest of the class ends up disturbed when the cranky baby stays in class. My point is that it isn't a grad-school-specific phenomena.
She did contact an organizer prior to her arrival to discuss her options- I would think if it was going to be an issue, it should have come up at that point, no?
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I have seen this come up even in birth/baby related fields- say a multi-day training class for doulas, or whatever. Sometimes they have no-baby rules, because either the mom ends up missing the class because she takes the baby out at every peep, or the rest of the class ends up disturbed when the cranky baby stays in class. My point is that it isn't a grad-school-specific phenomena.
Yes, it's a phenomena of a baby unfriendly culture. I often wish that there were more venues with "crying rooms" for mothers who want to attend these events. I also think it's a vicious circle, if it's not that acceptable for mothers and nurslings to go to lectures, etc, when they do attend, the mothers are nervous, what if their baby cries, and I think sometimes the baby senses that and is fussier.
Someone has to be the first for these things and it got to be you. Think of the model you showed to other women and take your pats on the back here. Good for you for showing up, kid in tow. I'm sure a lot of people were freaked out and I'm sure a you've given a lot of people something to think about. I wrote an essay once about being a pumping pioneer.

My mom continued working throughout her pregnancy with me at time when it wasn't done. She's got a few good stories and I'm really proud of her.
My understanding was she asked about a place to pump, not about bringing the baby. I guess I misread.
Thanks for clarifying.

The conference is a support "cohort" for women students in my field of computing -- which is largely male-dominated (I taught a class of 28 this summer with no women).

I did not outright ask if I could bring my infant. I did not think to ask because at another conference of the same nature, women brought their babies; furthermore, I didn't see any other options (and I'd already gotten approved for funding by the organizer even though I listed 'nursing room' as a special request).

Here is what I asked, a week before the conference:

Will there be a place for me to nurse my infant and/or pump and
store milk?

Here was the reply:

There is not a room for this per se. I don't know whether or not any of the hotel rooms have a refrigerator so you may want to bring a small cooler. You could use my hotel room to nurse if you like
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to you. So sorry they made you feel unwelcome as a new mom. Just goes to show that things have not changed much. They just expect women to act like men when in the men's world, even if it's all women around.
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