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Our older ds turns 4 on December 17th. My MIL has already been asking what he wants for his birthday/christmas, and dh & I are struggling with this for some reason. Anyone have any good ideas or things your 4, 5, 6 year old boys love that I might not have thought of? Thanks. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/smile.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="smile">
 

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I am not sure that I read your post properly but are you questioning what to get him or combining the two gifts?<br><br>
The combining the two gifts struck a cord with me. My whole life, I have always felt sad for kids whose families combine birthday and Christmas. As opposed to the rest of the world, who gets a birthday and a Christmas. Have you thought about having a birthday party (with no hint of Christmas) on like December 13th and then having Christmas too?<br><br>
In regards to gifts, one of my favorite catalogs is Toys To Grow On. They have a LOT of really cool stuff. I think that they may be online. Check it out!<br><br>
HTH!<br><br>
Love,<br>
Nicole
 

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My ds who is 5 loves mechanical things. He has a set of gears that he builds in all different ways and then he turns the handle and they all move. It's been a hit since day one.
 

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My ds is turning 4 next week and absolutely loves tinker toys! I got them for him yesterday thinking they'd be a good birthday present but I couldn't wait that long to give them to him - I was right, though - they would be a great b-day gift for a 4 year old, judging by his reaction.
 

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I second the tinker toys. Also Lincoln Logs, Lite Brite and Games. My kids love games of all kinds, that is all we do most days. Also what about Legos? My kids love these as well.
 

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Board games!!! DS loves to play board games and work puzzles, and I don't mean the little toddler puzzles, but realy 60+ piece puzzles <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/orngbiggrin.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="orange big grin"> Wooden train, legos, tinker toys, lincoln logs, anything they can build with is usually fun <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/orngbiggrin.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="orange big grin">
 

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Just agreeing with kanpope, keep Christmas and birthday's seperate. My birthday is the 26th of December (my mother actually said that if I was born on Christmas day that we would celebrate my birthday in June). It isn't a nice feeling when you're young to get combined gifts, regardless of the quality.<br>
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One idea, for birthday focus on "summer" gifts and for Christmas focus on "winter" gifts. Ideas might be sports equiptment like balls, bats, helmets, mits, skates, etc. Or camping or hiking or beach even!! Another idea is including match box cars in pockets of clothes or with a gift certificate to be saved for a 1/2 way party.<br><br>
I was born mid-Dec and my sister was born mid-June. I was always painfully jealous of the fact that I not only got one gift, but that I never ever got "summer" things. Alot of summer stuff is on sale or clearance now too!!
 
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