[lauraess]

Have you seen this new commercial for Chlorine bleach??? it goes on and on about the myth of the dangers and bleach and says how when it is used as an additive in washing machines it just ends up as salt water.
so, given that the understanding was how potent,harmful it is for the environment and such.
Whats the deal???
laura

 

[Meiri]

I'll have to ask DH about the chemistry behind that statement, but salt is NaCl (sodium chloride). Depending on what's being done in the waste treatment plants, it's possible.

But that just begs the question as to whether it's good to be releasing salt water into the river after it's been treated. I would have to say "no".

 

[crazy_eights]

My understanding is that Clorine is very unstable chemically, so it doesn't remain in anything for long.

 

[stafl]

chlorine reacts very readily with other chemicals, that's how it works. It leaves behind lots more than just NaCl - but Dow chemicals has lots of money and any studies showing a definite link between chlorine and horrible toxins like dioxins are quietly gotten rid of...

 

[srain]

Well, I believe chlorine is made by putting an electrical current through plain ol' salt water, which separates the Na (salt) from the Cl (chloride). So it makes sense to me that after reacting with whatever it has a chance to react to, most of it would be likely to re-bond into NaCl. But I'm not a chemist....

 

[NatalieS]

I don't have anything to say on this topic jus that Lauraess- my kids are named Aidan and Amelia! Such good taste in names you have

 

[pilesoflaundry]

I haven't seen the commercial but I still won't use bleach, it makes me sick to smell it. I get dizzy even if I'm using the smallest amount possible in the washing machine when it goes in the rinse I can smell it through the whole house

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Sorta OT but makes you wonder if splenda is safe then because supposidly it's made from chloride like salt is. Something like adding it to the sugar to take out the fat hmmm???

 

[sadean]

Quote:

Sorta OT but makes you wonder if splenda is safe then because supposidly it's made from chloride like salt is. Something like adding it to the sugar to take out the fat hmmm???

Sugar doesn't have any fat in it. It is just simple carbohydrate. I don't know what they add to Splenda, but whatever it is prevents the consumer's body from absorbing the carbohydrate. Therefore it tastes like sugar, but it is not absorbed and it simply passes through the digestive system undigested. I cannot speak to how "safe" it is. I have had it on occasion, but prefer evaporated cane sugar for cooking/baking uses.

 

[pilesoflaundry]

I was talking about this link:
http://www.mercola.com/2000/dec/3/su...e_dangers.htm#

Quote:

How it is Manufactured Sucralose is produced by chlorinating sugar (sucrose). This involves chemically changing the structure of the sugar molecules by substituting three chlorine atoms for three hydroxyl groups

Now I know his site isn't 100% scientific fact but it does make you wonder..

And this one too:
http://www.holisticmed.com/splenda/

Says the manufactuer claims it's made like salt but really they use more dangerous stuff. But I'm taking this topic wayy OT so I'll stop now

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I guess my point was if they are trying to say bleach is safe because it breaks down to salt than what about splenda. And you're right sugar doesn't have fat in it, minor oversight of mine, tried to think and type with a kid in my lap :LOL.

 

[stafl]

Here is the mis-information being peddled by the companies that make big money selling chlorine
http://c3.org/chlorine_issues/unders...xin_index.html
that same Chlorine Chemistry Council has another site www.dioxinfacts.org which, is in itself, kind of scary to me.

Now, I wonder why they feel such a need to discredit any source that says there's a link between chlorine and dioxin? hmmm....

and here's the other side of the story, which to me is much more believable than what Dow chemicals wants us to hear
http://www.greenpeaceusa.org/media/p...burningtoc.htm
http://www.elmhurst.edu/~chm/onlcour.../issue397.html
http://www.cqs.com/edioxin.htm
http://www.ping.be/~ping5859/Eng/ChlorineDioxin.html

 

[PikkuMyy]

It's not the chlorine but the dioxin that's produced by its chemical reactions that is dangerous. You can't make chlorine without producing dioxin so the whole system is horribly dangerous.

I use hydrogen peroxide in a strong dilution as bleach and disinfectant.

 

[lauraess]

pikkumyy: And the Dioxoin is what- a fume?
~L