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Ok, I am new to the mothering thing and kind of new to the earthy-crunchy thing too although am probably more au naturale than I come off but I have a diaper dilemna.
I REALLY feel that I want to go with cloth diapers after having done some reading on the subject. Few reservations:
1. Price. They are so damn expensive, how can people say you save money? You must need about $700 just to get started from birth to 9 months!
2. How many do you even need to buy in each size? I have not had any babies before. How many are you likely to go through in two days (which would probably give you enough to always have a day's supply on hand and one washing)?
3. How the hell do you choose which diaper to go with? The all in one thing sounds great to me...I think those are either the Bummkins or the Fuzzibunz. But the Kissaluvs also look adorable. Which is better for someone looking for cheap and SIMPLE? And if you have to add covers to the diapers and inserts doesn't that sort of wind up adding up to more money than disposables?
4. I thought I read something about flushable inserts. This way you don't have to scrape stuff off. You just flush the liner and throw the partially soiled diaper in the wash. That sounds awesome but I haven't seen anything about these online. Do they really exist? Which diaper do you use them with and where do you get them?
Ok, that is a heck of a lot of questions to start out with but I really need to get informed and when I read around at the websites my head was SWIMMING!
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This is quick since I have to get to work, but I was suprised by the cost when I first started, too. I bought 2 dozen prefolds and 3 covers. My DD was in the small size until she was 13 months old (she is very small) and then we bought the next size up. I'm learning how to make my own covers to save money since we're having a boy and my covers are all girly. I find that this is actually too many diapers- we wash more often than we use!

I'll be lurking to see what others say, since I'm interested in fitteds and such...

Shannon
Yesterday I noticed that Kelly's Closet is having an anniversary sale; 15% off with the code 5YEARS I believe, and free shipping over $75. And they have package deals too. http://www.kellyscloset.com/ I'm considering placing an order because A.J. needs some more XL sizes for overnight, and they have the Bumkins wraps in Cat In The Hat prints. I got my Bumkins used originally, and after 2 boys they're finally starting to lose their waterproofing in spots. So I figure this is an excuse to buy a couple of cute new diapers for the new baby as well!

- Krista
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And if you have to add covers to the diapers and inserts doesn't that sort of wind up adding up to more money than disposables?
The deal with covers and prefolds is this: for wet diapers, you can toss the wet prefold (or whatever your stuffing the diapers with, heck, an old sock would probably work, LOL) into the diaper bin, lay the wrap to air out until the next diaper change, and put on a new wrap with prefold on, and then at the next diaper change re-use the first wrap. As infants I used a wrap/cover 2-3 times before washing. So you can double or triple up on the prefolds and soakers compared to the number of prefolds you use. I buy my ProRaps and prefolds on eBay from the seller: Granitesmith.
I love Bumkins, but I use ProRaps more because they're cheap, and I've never ever ever had them leak. Kissaluvs are very soft and absorbent, but I found them to be bulky and heavy, and take longer to dry, though I know a lot of people love them.
I can't comment on the FuzziBunz, since I've never used them (I use Happy Heiny's for pocket diapers instead because they go on just like disposables and my husband likes them). Everyone I know who uses FuzziBunz either loves them or hates them, LOL.

- Krista
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my start up kit cost me 350.00 canadian from motherease. I love my diaper system. I bought the onesize unbleached. I have since bought about 4 more covers at around 13.00 each. I have been using them since my dd was 1 month old. she is now 22 months old. I plan on usingthem with #2. much cheeper than sposies and so much better for child and earth.
Oh, my new favorite subject! I am a newbie to CD too & at first found it COMPLETELY overwhelming, but thanks to mamas here & great resources on the web, I think I've pretty much got the hang of it
A few quick basics:

The cheapest way to CD is using prefolds & covers exclusively. Prefolds are what our mothers used on us- a thick rectangle of cotton w/ many layers sewn together. You can either get Chinese (CPF) or Indian (IPF). The difference b/w the two seems to be that Indian are softer & more absorbant, while Chinese might last a bit longer (I'm going w/ Indian). Also, instead of PFs you can use flats, which I think is a much larger piece of cotton that you fold in to many layers.

Covers are either PUL (some kind of water proof material) or wool. Brands you'll hear of PUL are Bummis, Prowraps, Bumkins, Mother-ease Air Flow, Bumpys, etc. You can buy wool covers (Aristocrats) or knitted wool called soakers. The nice thing about covers is that you don't need a new cover ever time you change a wet dipe.

You can get totally set up w/ this system for under $100 (inc shipping) here:
http://www.mtdiaperstore.com/product...roducts_id=122
You get 36 prefolds & 6 Bummis. I'd spend the extra $10 to upgrade from newborn to infant/small size to last longer.

Other options... instead of prefolds, many people used FITTED diapers. These do the same thing as PF (absorb pee & hold in poop), but have elastic around the waist & legs to help hold in poop. Brands you'll hear are Kissaluvs, Muttaquin, Righteous Baby Fits Like a Glove (FLAG), umm? These are more expensive than PFs & still require a cover for waterproofing.

Then there are POCKET diapers like Fuzzibunz & Happy Heinys. For these have a pocket inside them that you have to stuff with an INSERT (the insert if what absorbs the pee). You can either use an insert made for the dipe (made of microfiber, hemp, or??) or you can stuff w/ a prefold, wash cloth, or anything else that will be absorbant. You don't need a seperate cover w/ these, but to wash, you must remove the insert. FYI- some stores will give you a microfiber insert free when you buy Fuzzibunz, so try to shop around!

Last on my list (but I'm sure there are others out there!) are ALL-IN-ONES (AIOs). These don't need inserts. I think the advantage to pocket diapers over AIOs is that you have more control over how absorbant you make the dipe w/ a pocket dipe (remember, the more absorbant the dipe, the bulkier it's going to be on baby's bum) & by taking it apart, it will dry faster after washing. Brands of AIO inc. Very Baby, Bum-Ware, Daisy Doodles, Rumpster, etc.

To save money, I'd highly recommend the Trading Post here (nothing wrong w/ used dipes!). Also http://www.diaperswappers.com/ & http://www.diaperpin.com/forum04/forum_default.asp Ebay has cloth dipes, too but I've heard you get a better deal if you use other sites. Also, if you're interested in PFs, I'm in a co-op where you can get unbleached IPF infant size $9.25/doz (other sizes too, prices vary) http://groups.yahoo.com/group/lct_diaper_supply/

Great sites for information include the diapering forum here http://www.mothering.com/discussions...221&order=desc
http://www.diaperpin.com/home.asp & http://www.greenmountaindiapers.com/newmom.htm

Sorry this is so long! Hope it helps!
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Originally Posted by carla72
my start up kit cost me 350.00 canadian from motherease. I love my diaper system. I bought the onesize unbleached. I have since bought about 4 more covers at around 13.00 each. I have been using them since my dd was 1 month old. she is now 22 months old. I plan on usingthem with #2. much cheeper than sposies and so much better for child and earth.
Carla, are you using their one-size system? That's awesome that it's worked well from 1 month-22months!
Oh my gosh, I can't believe I thought of something else to add! Regarding strategy for not having to scrape poop off the dipe, I'd heard that poop shakes off polar fleece real easily. Someone suggested buying cheap fleece from Walmart or wherever & cutting it in to strips to line your dipe. Then when you change, just shake the poop off the fleece. I'm going to try that!

Also, regarding sewing dipes to save money- I can do a little on the sewing machine, but am not real handy or fast. I did the math & figure it's MUCH cheaper for me to buy dipes than to sew them (for what my time's worth @ work & how invaluable my time will be once babe is born).
yes I am using the one size system. my system came with 4 covers and they suggested to get four of one size. I have found 2 to 3 covers are enough. I also really prefer the reki covers vs the airflow.....too many snaps I prefer the velcro of the reki. I have not found the velcrop broke down either. I did have a 8lb 10 oz babe so she wasn't tiny
They were a bit big on her at first but it didn't take long for her to grow into them and I have never had an issue with leaking. I use the stay dry liners in my diapers (reusable) they do a great job at wicking away the moisture from babes skin and add exta aborbancy. They were 25 to 50 cents more per liner but well worth it. Even my anti cloth diapering husband likes these diapers as they are so easy to use. No folding etc. They dry nicely too because the liners snap out and the covers are seperate to there isn't alot of bulk. Hope that helps.
Carla
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Originally Posted by veganf
Yesterday I noticed that Kelly's Closet is having an anniversary sale; 15% off with the code 5YEARS I believe, and free shipping over $75. And they have package deals too. http://www.kellyscloset.com/

- Krista
From another DDC- Thank you so much for that link. I managed to get really good deal on some extra dipes. Woohoo.
Here's a thread from the July DDC w/ good explanations & suggestions for newbies: http://www.mothering.com/discussions...d.php?t=414374
I use fitteds and wool and they have last me from 4 months and still going strong at 2+ years, and I didn't spend near 700 dollars. I spent more on disposables in the first four months before we switched to cloth than I have on cloth in the past 2 years.
Wow! I knew I'd get some great replies! Thanks mama's.
I did check out that sale and purchased one of three different types as well as the Kissaluvs starter kit since I have heard great things about Kissaluvs. That will give me about 8-9 diapers to start out and see what I like best.
Jen, thanks for breaking that all down for me! I LOVE the idea of buying the fleece and cutting into strips. Mainly because it is one less thing to keep buying and it seems there is a lot of money needed up front although I am sure it pays off in a year or so cost wise.
I definately don't want to go with the prefolds cause the idea of the pins and all that seems like SUCH a hassle to me and I doubt my hubby would love the idea. But the contours, pockets and aio seem great. I just have no clue how many I would need of each size.
I also read about flushable liners and still haven't heard ANYTHING about this from people...any clue guys?
Thanks so much!
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The Lissa, what brand of fitted did you go with? That IS long lasting!
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We've used mainly prefolds and covers with dd from birth and haven't spent anywhere near $700. I never wanted to feel stressed about running out of diapers, so I bought extra and have never had a problem washing every 2-3 (occassionally 4) days. I'll share some of our experience.


We started with 36 infant prefolds and probably 6-8 small covers. She grew very quickly and was in premium prefolds and medium covers at around 4 months (we have 36 premiums and probably 4-6 medium covers). I'm not sure when she went into large covers (we have around 10), but she has been in them for a while and still has room to grow in the prefolds at nearly 17 months. Now that she pees a bit more, we use doublers (cheapo gerbers or folded flats that my MIL gave us).

Links to basic packages: Cloth Diapers 'n More or Whole Family Market or whateveritisnow and Natural Babies (I'm not skilled enough to provide a direct link with the frames, so click on diaper packages and they have a couple of basic ones there.)

As far as poop, we bought a minishower when we started solids. Most of it just falls off on its own, then I spray the rest. (Great visual there, eh?
)

I plan on getting a few more pocket diapers for out and about and am in love with the first bumGenius I got. It's a one size and it looks like it will actually work well on a small baby and dd is only on the middle setting! (It took a while for Wonderoos to fit her properly.)

I was never a fan of AIOs, but that's just me.
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Originally Posted by carla72
my start up kit cost me 350.00 canadian from motherease. I love my diaper system. I bought the onesize unbleached. I have since bought about 4 more covers at around 13.00 each. I have been using them since my dd was 1 month old. she is now 22 months old. I plan on usingthem with #2. much cheeper than sposies and so much better for child and earth.
This is what I did too, though I was given covers so it cost me $200 CDN, I used it on my daughter from a month old until she toilet trained just before 2 1/2. I did supplement with other diapers as well (fuzzi bunz for night and a few smaller fitteds which probably ran me another $150). I technically have enough for this baby but will probably get a few small sizes just for him/her.

tara
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Originally Posted by SummerTwilight
I definately don't want to go with the prefolds cause the idea of the pins and all that seems like SUCH a hassle to me and I doubt my hubby would love the idea. But the contours, pockets and aio seem great. I just have no clue how many I would need of each size.
I also read about flushable liners and still haven't heard ANYTHING about this from people...any clue guys?
Thanks so much!

You don't need to pin prefolds, at least not the chinese prefolds. You just fold them in thirds and lay in the wrap/cover. I place a non-pilling fleece liner over the prefold too. That's it.

I tried some liners, and honestly, they're not worth it until baby is older and has formed poops from eating solid foods. I found breastfed baby food just runs out the sides of the liners, or soaks right through!

- krista
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Buy used!!! You can save hundreds of dollars.... If you go the basic route of prefolds and covers you can get

24 prefolds
5 covers

for less than 100.00

and don't get suckered in by cute lol I had to learn that awhile ago!
Flushable liners are usually on the diapering accesories page of web sites that carry them. I checked out the Kelly's Closet site and they have them there. they look like rolls of TP if you want to check them out to see what they are.

As for CD advice, I'm not sure I'll be much help. I CD'd #1 from 2 to potty training at 2 1/2 then #2 from birth to a couple of months (just didn't work out for us that time). Now I think that I have a little of everything you could imagine. Not sure what will work or if I'm making it more confusing for myself (or more importantly DH), but we'll see what happens. My problem is how cute all the diapers are these days. I just hope that I haven't sacrificed cost for style/ease of use. But just think, this time next year hopefully we will all be old pros at this!!!
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and don't get suckered in by cute lol I had to learn that awhile ago!
I'm on #3 and I'm still suckered by cute!! Fine with me! As long as I have ProRaps (very plain and boring, but I throw in the cute fleece liner, haha) for those long hauls!
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