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Alright, I suppose I will try this again...<br><br>
Colorado mothers?!!<br>
Hello to all! I am brand new to this forum, in fact this is my first post. A friend of mine actually gave me the idea for this...so here I am. Since no one here knows anything about me, I will provide a short intro. I am a mother of four girls ages 9months, 3, 5, and 7. I am a breastfeeding mommy and I am cloth diapering... and homeschooling... and co sleeping... and probably many other things that are common to this site. I am open minded and I try very hard not to judge others. I am actually writing in order to get a little insight/help as to what is about to happen with us. We are moving to Colorado! My husband just found out that his company will transfer him to their Boulder, CO location. Since he and I have been planning on moving out west for the past 10 years, this is spectacular news for us! I am hoping to find some fellow mothers around this area who can educate me on the different towns and lifestyles typical of those areas. I WAS very excited about finding a more open minded group of mothers, but my neighbor (who lived in Ft Collins a while ago) just informed me of this:<br><br><span style="color:#0000FF;">"You should also be aware that there is a strong anti-south prejudice in<br>
other states. They will look at you as though you just declared war on<br>
Lincoln and wish for slavery to return. They will mock your accent and<br>
stereotype you. Bob had to deal with this big-time in Berkeley. The<br>
people in Boulder can be really snooty (like the people in Chapel Hill,<br>
Westwood, Berkeley), and NC is just not up-to-par. There is a pretty<br>
strong belief that people from the south are stupid and poor. I get so<br>
much of this, even from my own family, even from people I've known for<br>
years, from before I moved to the south. Did they think that I came<br>
south, became a racist, lost my shoes, and became stupid and<br>
uneducated? It is weird. People who would swear they haven't a<br>
prejudiced bone in their body will prejudge YOU for being from the<br>
south, as though it were YOUR FAULT that the confederacy was formed.<br>
This is not a reason not to move. You may, however, find yourself<br>
looking for an expat community (ex southerners). I used to hang out<br>
with almost all ex-CA folks, or at least, people who were married to<br>
ex-CAs. Now when we go out there I don't really care what others<br>
think! We enjoy it, and so?"</span><br><br>
Now she and I are pretty good friends. We do have a great many differences nevertheless, I value her opinion. I am sure that this information is not accurate for ALL people, but I do wonder how prevalent this sort of attitude is. We are coming from NC and my husband and I were both born in SC. While I am not particularly worried about other peoples opinions, I would feel much better to hear that my neighbors experience is a distorted depiction of the town in which I am to reside in. Any input here would be nice.<br><br>
As far as moving is concerned, we look to be moving out around June. I am assuming that we will be in a rental until we can decide on where we would like to buy a house. This is where you guys can help me out! If any of you live near Boulder, could you please give me some info on the surrounding areas? I am still excited to be moving out and I would love to get ahead of the "finding friends" game especially since I will be leaving all of the friends I have here.<br><br>
I look forward to hearing from someone!
 

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your friend may be a bit misled. We have tons of military from all branaces here, and people from all over the world. I'm from the south and have been here over 11 years now and have never run into a "southern racist".
 

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Boulder is a place where lots of rich people live. Not much low income because the cost of housing is so expensive. I have lived many places in my life, all over the country, and I LOVE Boulder. I live about 40 mins northwest of Boulder in the mountains. What I think is funny about Boulder is that the most popular cars are subarus and toyota prius hybrids. Yes, there are snooty people everywhere in the world, but I don't encounter more in Boulder than anywhere else. Boulder has a huge population of active people; running, bike riding, hiking, rock climbing, kayaking, skiing & snowboarding, etc... so due to endorphin levels, I mostly see happy people.<br><br>
If you look for snooty people you will find them, but if you look for friendly, open-minded people, they are there too.<br><br>
And by the way, I have some good friends from Boone, NC and they are some of my favorite people ever!!
 

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We just moved to longmont about 12 miles NE of Boulder. Boulder is waaaay to expensive for us. Longmont is more affordable. We moved here from AZ and really have yet to meet any true "natives" seems most everyone here is from somewhere else.<br><br>
FWIW I was born in Fayetteville and spent most of my life going back and forth fro there. I love NC(not Fayetteville though).
 

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It sounds like your neighbor has some issues to work on. I have been a Boulder resident for over 10 years, granted I don't come from the South (I am British), but have never encountered more snooty people here than anywhere else on the planet.
 

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Hi, I'm new to Boulder (although less each day as I'm approaching 6m) but I've encountered nothing but friendly people here (well, maybe not that checker at the Wild Oats off Baseline, but everyone else).<br><br>
I feel like more than 1/2 the people I've met are originally from somewhere else. Plus you have the university--so there are people from everywhere here because of that. I feel like people are busy, doing a lot between children and schooling, and recreation (skiing,biking), but I'm hopeful with the spring/summer we'll find more hours to meet more people.<br>
There are lots of nice playgrounds and I've always met friendly parents there (and they're generally crunchy too).<br><br>
As far as housing, Boulder is pricey, and you do get more for your housing$ a bit out of town (we're currently renting and have just sort of started house hunting). It seems like unless money is no object, in Boulder you can have 2 of 3 things-- nice house, nice yard, or close to where you want to be. There are also pockets within neighborhoods, so it's hard to just classify one area since there seem to be great houses tucked all over.
 

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I agree with the PPs, I would not be concerned about this issue here whatsoever!
 

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Well I am glad to hear from so many nice people...I do feel better. I am so excited to be finally moving to Colorado! i just wish that we knew exactly when and what is to happen so that I can start getting everything going. We are waiting on my husbands trip out there where he signs all of the paperwork and negotiates the relocation package. Has anyone ever dealt with a relocation negotiation?<br><br>
I know that I will miss days like today though...it is 73 outside and the kids have been out playing around in the creek for the past two days!!<br><br>
Thanks Again!<br><br>
Leia<img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/smile.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="smile">
 

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I answered your last query. It was 72 out the other day. Now it's 40. That's Colorado.<img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/smile.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="smile">
 

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Wow! was it really 72 there? when does everything start to bloom around there? I have studied the climate a good deal, but there is so much that one cannot really learn until they live there. Here, all of the trees are coming into bloom. I saw my first butterfly of the year and the birds are going crazy, especially the Cardinals! I think that this sort of stuff is what is going to be the hardest for me...I know just about every tree and bird and bug that lives here. I am really excited to be going somewhere where I will have a whole new flora and fauna, however I know that I will miss what I have grown up with. Do you guys have cardinals there? I think that you have mountain bluebirds which are very similar to the bluebirds that we have here...I need to buy some new field guides. Speaking of which, what is the growing season like out there? I very much enjoy gardening and I am wondering what kind of veggies and flowers grow out there? I should probably start a new thread for this one.<br>
oh well<img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/img/vbsmilies/smilies/peace.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="Peace">:<img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/img/vbsmilies/smilies/goorganic.jpg" style="border:0px solid;" title="go organic">:<br>
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Green things have just started to peek out of the ground. The Boulder area is zone 4. It's a short season with very unpredictable weather, but you can make due and have a very successful garden if you work with everything. You can grow cold hardy varieties of tomatoes if you start them indoors. Peach and apple trees do great here, so do all salad greens. The soil is kinda hurting and takes some time to get in good shape. But, I think all gardeners in Boulder are fortunate because I have a garden 2,000 ft higher! The trees here are mostly evergreens (pine, spruce, etc...), plus there are aspens, sycamore, cottonwoods... The coolest birds, IMO, are hummingbirds, hawks, falcons, bald eagles. Plus there are robins, stellar j's, magpies, ravens, crows, many more... I know a little more about up here where I live so I may be leaving out some great aspects of Boulder that I am not aware of.
 

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I'm in the foorhills north of Boulder and we still have some crazy weather ahead. March is our snowyest month. It's often shorts weather one day and parkas the next.We've never had any issues growing anything we like - peas, beans, squash, corn, pumpkins, carrots, lavender,.
 

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Peach trees! That is awesome! Peas, squash, pumpkins, carrots!!! well my worries are over. I have been so worried that I was not going to be able to grow anything. Man do I feel ignorant.<img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/duh.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="duh"> I am so excited now...even more than before! Speaking of which, my neighbor sent me another "rain on my parade" e-mail. I was talking with my husband and I explained to him that normally I would not be so bothered by another persons opinion but at this particular time, I am just overwhelmed with all that I have to do. I am so glad that I have found some people to talk to about all of this. I am thrilled to be learning all of this cool stuff before I move out! Peaches! wow. I love peaches. I knew about the lettuce/greens thing, not the peach thing...sorry that I am going on and on about peaches...I have been seriously sad that I was not going to be able to have fresh peaches anymore...as I reiterate my ignorance<img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/lol.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="lol"> Alright well I think that I am a little lacking in thought processes right now. I am up about three hours past my normal bed time. I had better get some sleep; besides, the baby calls!:yawning:<img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/img/vbsmilies/smilies/fbbf.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="familybed breastfeeding"><br><br>
Is it just me or is that sleeping and nursing icon super huge?
 

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It was SO stressful for us. Dh's company does not have a standard relo department (which would have been so much easier!) so we had to submit and negotiate all aspects, and everything had to be submitted and signed off by so many people. If you're dealing with a company that often does relocations it should go so smoothly. Plus you will probably have help selling your house and finding a new one---which is giant!<br><br>
As far as birds---we've had birds at our feeders all winter. We have hedges around our house and there are so many different kinds of finches (I think). We're also close to open space so we have hawks, falcons, bald eagles, great horned owls, kites, and so many more.<br><br>
The weather is also great. I think I've heard that there are 300+ sunny days a year here, and that has been our experience. I have people call me from home saying "it's so nice here today, we finally have sun and are playing outside, when do you guys in CO thaw out?" I honestly don't have the heart to tell them that every day is great unless it's snowing (which is also lovely) and we're outside playing in the sun most of the time. The wind can be serious though, I don't know that we were prepared for that.
 

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Haha, Colorado is moving "out west" to you and "east" for me. But seriously, having come from the San Francisco Bay Area to Colorado I haven't ever even heard of "southern racist." I think accents are cool! And I agree with the PP - I'm actually surprised when I meet someone who is a Colorado native - there are NOT that many around. I'm south of Boulder, but if DH worked in Boulder, I think we'd really like it there. All in all, welcome to Colorado. I love it here.
 

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If you really love peaches so much then you will absolutely love the farmers market (Wednesday evenings and Saturday mornings May through October)!!! There are several growers from the western slope who sell fruit there. I have to say that First Fruits have my absolute favorite peaches and cherries. Usually there peaches are so juicy they run down your arm with every bite, and their flavor is so intense! The cherries are the same. They also grow pears, apricots and apples (all organic of course!). Mmmm.. I can't wait for fruit season again.
 

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you know, I was just looking at the farmers market info online the other day. I am super excited about how many there are! You guys seem to have so many more that we do here! I am hoping that we can get cherries for less than we pay here...they are $7-8/lb, so we cannot usually get that much and we all love cherries.<img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/img/vbsmilies/smilies/eat.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="Eat">:<br>
So now I have a new question...don't laugh too much...well whatever laugh as much as you want...as you know, I am trying to learn as much as I can about out there. I was looking up info on bears and living with them around and all...we only have to worry about rattlesnakes and mosquito's here....and I saw information about mountain lions. I read that you should not let your children play outside at dusk and not to plant shrubs near your children's play areas and so on and so fourth. I am a little freaked out now... how significant is this mountain lion thing? I am not some wimpy outdoor phobic person or anything, I just have a different perspective now that I have little babies. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/smile.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="smile"> still, any info on this would be nice.<br><br>
I have heard a bunch about this wind thing now too. It must be pretty darn windy for so many to comment on it. How about thunderstorms? I love a good thunderstorm. Are there many around there?<br><br>
Thank you gals for being so cool! Hearing from you all has really helped me to stay positive during such a stressful time. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/img/vbsmilies/smilies/hug2.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="Hug2"><br><br>
I hope that you all have a super fantastic day!<br>
I am off to do diapers! <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/wash.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="wash">
 

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Hmm, I don't think you'll need to worry too much about mountain lions unless you're out hiking or whatever. I've been out here 7 years and have never heard anything about mountain lion sightings that weren't in recreational areas (parks, hiking trails, etc.).<br><br>
The wind can be pretty stiff at times, especially over by the foothills. I'm down in Denver, so it doesn't get too bad here most of the time, but highway 93 (between Boulder and Golden) gets closed down pretty often because of wind.<br><br>
If you love thunderstorms, you'll love monsoon season! From around July to September, the clouds roll in over the mountains in the afternoon, bringing with them storms. Lightning, rain, sometimes hail even. They usually don't last very long before they're gone.<br><br>
Mmm...cherries...can't wait for cherry season! I'm still <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/irked.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="irked">: that they stopped doing the farmers market that was (literally) right across the street from me.
 
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