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I am tandem nursing my 3.5 yo dd and my 7 mo dd. My 3.5 yo has a bad latch all the time! It really hurts. I reposition her a million times, ask her to open WIDE, and distract myself with books and the net, but it still hurts. Even if she starts off doing it right (with coaching and help), her teeth are digging in within seconds. On top of that, sometimes I feel totally against nursing her. I just look down and think, "This is gross." It's weird, because I don't think there is anything wrong with nursing a child this old or older, yet there are times when I feel it is wrong somehow because she is so big and it hurts. Maybe you remember my thread "Tell me I'm not a perv". If so, there's another issue I have with it. Still, we are not ready to wean. I am not 100% philosophically in-line with CLW (I think MLW can be done in a way that satisfies both parties if it is the right time for the child-- maybe it could be called co-operative weaning <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/shrug.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="shrug">), but I want to get past these intense anti-nursing feelings I sometimes have. Is there anyone else dealing with this? HELP!!!
 

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I am with you! My 3.5 tr old nurses this way. I think her mouth may be so big she just can't nurse right. This latching has been a problem for 1.5 yrs now. She still gets very upset when I tell her she can't nurse. I nurse her about 3 times a day, but she'd nurse a dozen times if I'd let her. To make it worse, as soon as dd2 started getting teeth, they started pressing into my breast as well, makes we wondering if it's the shape of my breast.<br><br>
For my older dd, I limit both frequency and duration, and try not to think about how it feels when I nurse her. Sometimes I just want to pinch her or throw her off my lap it hurts so much. She says she's gonna wean in June. I'm not going to hold her to it, but I am going to bring it up then.
 

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wish i had some advice... just wanted to say i'm with ya. my almost 3 yo has the same problem and i just grit my teeth and try to think of other things until we're done. relatching never seems to help for more than about 30 seconds <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/shrug.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="shrug">
 

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Same here. I agree with the theory of the mouth growth changing the latch. Whether it's size, or shape, I don't know, but it is clear that my ds simply is unable to latch the way I need him to. In fact the last two weeks it's as if he has forgotten how to do it almost completely, I rarely feel any real suction and it doesn't seem as though he could be drawing any milk out the way he's doing it.<br><br>
It seems like it's some form of Nature-led weaning, lol, since it's not my doing and ds would still like to be able to so it's not Child-led either... but each developmental phase passes, with both physical and psychological change, so it seems ok for it to be this way. It just hurts, ugh!<br><br>
Oh, Binah, I have gone thru nursing aversions too!! I posted for support during the last one, we made it through after a few weeks. I know how it feels to not want to nurse, and dc is asking, and you just don't feel like you can stand it.... I find phases of aversion are normally associated with hormonal changes as my cycle progresses during the month.
 

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I have ongoing problems with latch-on with my 3 year old nursling. Some days are better than others. One thing that has helped is making sure she doesn't tuck her chin. If anything she needs her chin tilted up from her chest. The teeth still dig in, but it's less painful. I also look at where the teeth marks are when she's done to see if she had enough in her mouth. When the marks are right by the nipple I know she didn't have enough breast in her mouth.<br><br>
Just what we've tried. Sounds like you've been working on position for a while, so you may already know these aren't the problem.
 

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Could you put ebm in a sippy for when she's not nursing for comfort? She might have fun helping you express the milk into a cup for her. That'd be slower than <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/img/vbsmilies/smilies/fly-by-nursing1.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="Fly By Nursing1">, but it'd be more comfortable for you and could make the times when she needs to nurse for comfort easier on you as well.
 

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My DD turned three in January and is still nursing, DS was born in Feb. We nursed through the pregnancy and I learned then to really work on her latch because while it was still painful, it made things bearable rather than excruciating. What worked for me was to remind her that to nurse she should have her tongue over her bottom teeth and then I'd make her practice on my finger. If she did it wrong, I'd unlatch her, repeat the reminder and practice on my finger again, if she got it right on my finger and wrong on the breast again I would end the nursing. We've only had to practice once in the six weeks since the baby came, but it is amazing what a difference having the tongue over the bottom teeth still makes (I remind her about fish lips too, but she doesn't have a lot of trouble with that).<br>
It might be worth trying.
 

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We have the same issues with my 3 yr. old. His teeth dig in and leave a purple mark that takes a while to go away (like 30 minutes). It sucks! It's worse when he's falling asleep and his weight (36 lbs!) is just hanging on his bad latch.<br>
Anyone who thinks we do this for our own pleasure is smoking crack.
 

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<img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/biglaugh.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="laugh">: <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/biglaugh.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="laugh">: It's true that we must be really in love to tandem nurse. I think the problem is that an older chils' latch is awful compared to an infant's.<br>
I hav etandem nursed twice without smoking anything, though I am possibly less sane. I am nursing only one tree yr old now.
 
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