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Hi, I asked a question about my new son's foreskin at a different message board and was advised to come over here and ask.<br><br>
My son was born on 3/24/05 at 36 weeks. He spent 15 days in the NICU with some breathing issue's and came home on a home apnea/heart monitoring system that he's still on now (and will be for the foreseeable future). He has a few "problems" that we're not sure what to make of yet but he's a sweet easy baby & a great nurser.<br><br>
First thing is that his testicles aren't desended yet, which we know is not all that unusual. The Dr.'s were able to find his right teste low in the pelvis via ultrasound but were unable to find the left one. So no big deal we figure, so long as we know he has at least one we're happy with that and are adopting the "we'll cross that bridge when we come to it" philosophy... while seeing a urologist to keep an eye on things as per our neonatologists advice.<br><br>
However what has me concerned is my son's forskin. It just doesn't look "normal" to me. I have an intact 3 y/o son who has never ever had a single problem with his foreskin or penis. Never a single infection, never a forced retraction, never any redness or pain, never any problems of any kind. He has had some smegma pearls and a little ballooning before he started to partially self-retract but I knew neither of those were cause for concern. So I'm not unfamiliar with the intact penis. However my new son's foreskin just looks "weird" to me. It doesn't pucker at the end and if I gently pull back on it it still doesn't pucker, it's rounded, which concerns me. In addition to that there is a very strange line on his penis. It's a dark brown line of skin that almost looks like a scar that starts at the tip of his foreskin and goes down to the base of his penis in a corkscrew kind of way wrapping around his penis. The darker skin feels normal and not at all like a scar but I'm just not sure what to make of it. My son has no problem at all urinating (and has gotten myself and DH on many occasions!) and it doesn't hurt him when we clean him or bathe him.<br><br>
The thing is that I'm taking him to a urologist in two weeks about the undesended testicles and I'm thinking I'll ask about his foreskin while we're there. What I'm afraid of is that this urologist will tell us we *need* too circumcise my son when in reality that most likely would not be the case. I really do NOT want to circ my son but I know that a lot of Dr.'s immediately default to the "need" to circ when that isn't really the case. If my son does for some true medical reason need to be circ'd I would agree to do it but only if it was the only solution. I have one intact son (and one son that is cut, he's 11 y/o... before I educated myself about circ) and I really want this baby to be intact too and I'm afraid of what this Dr. will say. Any information or reassurance would be appreciated... even if it's just to say that I worry too much about silly things ;-)<br><br>
~ Patti<br>
mom of 5 now!<br>
with two intact sons <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/smile.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="smile">
 

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KatScarlett said:
My son has no problem at all urinating (and has gotten myself and DH on many occasions!) and it doesn't hurt him when we clean him or bathe him.>>>><br><br>
I think at this point the above is all that matters. If you look at child or adult genital photos you will see a lot of differing looks.<br><br>
What the urologist recommends does not mean you have to do it.Personally I don't see any legitimate indications to circumcise children.If there is a problem that does not resolve by adulthood(after trying various remedies),and affects sexuality-then perhaps,but never on little ones.<br><br>
Is the testicle issue something that needs to be evaluated this early on? I didn't think they did surgery until 1-2 years or age. If it does get to that point try some homeopathy.<br><br>
Enjoy your little one!
 

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I would be up front with the urologist. Tell him you want to keep your son intact but you were concerned with how his penis looked compared to your 3 yr old. I have had friends whos baby had undecended testicles and they did drop on their own. I have had great luck with the docs for my kids and if you dont care for him I am sure there are other pediatric urologist for you to see. Like the pp said I dont think the "treat" the testicle issue until 2ish. Good luck with your little man <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/smile.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="smile"> Sorry to hear he had a rough start.<br>
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What if you had girls instead? Would you obsess over comparing their genitalia, saying the skin of one was a little longer, or a little less puckered, or a little darker, or a little more curved..............etc?<br><br>
Of course not, right?<br><br>
And if you took your baby girl to a doctor and said, "her external genitalia doesn't look exactly like her 3 year old sister's; hopefully you don't recommend cutting part of it off, but I'll have it cut off if it's really necessary," they would look at you like you were crazy!!!!<br><br><br>
Honestly, one of my ears is a little more pointed than the other. But certainly nobody recommended surgery, because my hearing is just fine!<br><br><br><br>
Any doctor who tells you to circ over cosmetic differences is just trying to make some money.
 

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You know, I was going to ask something similar about the appearance of my son's foreskin, after a regular here posted a link with pictures. I think it was <a href="http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.mja.com.au/public/issues/178_04_170203/dew10610_fm-1.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.mja.com.au/public/issues/178_04_170203/dew10610_fm.html&h=202&w=580&sz=37&tbnid=0cWwhTnJ9gEJ:&tbnh=45&tbnw=129&hl=en&start=56&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dphimosis%26start%3D40%26hl%3Den%26lr%3D%26rls%3DGGLD,GGLD:2004-38,GGLD:en%26sa%3DN" target="_blank">this one.</a> As A&A said, I do know that there is wide variety in genital appearance, but is it unusual not to have that extra puckery, lettuce-y skin on the end? Marcos doesn't, his looks just like the first picture in the phimosis example. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/headscratch.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="headscratch"> But no "fibrosis or pinhole meatus". He also has no problem urinating (the understatement of the year! :LOL) so I am not going to take him to the doctor about it.
 

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Patti:<br><br>
I have no idea what this difference is but can assure you there is no urgency to circumcise if your son is having no problem urinating. Don't let anyone tell you that there is. The penis is the most variable part of a man's body and this may be just a normal variation. Whatever the urologist tells you, bring it back here and we'll help you understand it.<br><br><br><br>
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Well thank you all for the reassurance. Having one intact son I will do whatever I have to to make sure that this newest son will be intact as well. We see the urologist in a little under two weeks so I guess I'll see what he says then. Honestly I think that my big fear is that the urologist is going to say that DS "has" to be circ'd and that my DH (who holds Dr.'s word as law <sigh>) is going to say that we should do it (even though he's anti-circ just like me). Once we see the Dr. I'll post it here and let him read all the responses and I'm sure that'll help <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/smile.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="smile"><br><br>
Truth is that I'm probably overreacting to nothing at all. Since Ben had such a rough start in the NICU and has some health issue's still (and possibly always will) I'm most likely just analyzing everything to death in a way I would have never done if it weren't for the fact that so much went wrong in such a short time with him. I notice that even when he does normal "new baby" things I worry and I need to work on that. It was a pretty traumatic experience so I guess I just need to give myself some time and ease into this baby #5 thing <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/smile.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="smile"><br><br>
One thing I was very happy to discover in the NICU though is that ALL the nurses there were very anti-circ and would advise parents not to circ when their opinions were asked! I had some long talks with a few of the nurses about circ and it was great. I even talked to the parents with the baby in the isolette next to us about it and was able to point them to some good web sites for info and they decided not to circ their new son (he left 5 days before us). It made my day that day.<br><br>
I'll let y'all know what the urologist says! Again thanks everyone.<br><br>
~ Patti<br>
mom of 5 now!
 
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