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Hi mamas....I need some advice from those who have BTDT. Dd is 4y and fully vaxed up to now (I just didn't know any better <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/greensad.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="greensad">)<br><br>
Ds is just over 2m. We delayed until his 2m visit and then gave him DTP and HiB....he was fussy for a few hours after but otherwise no rxns. We are not doing HepB until much later, and I'm not doing the rota (researched it and it sounds scary to me!).<br><br>
I was supposed to bring him in tomorrow (one week after first vax) to get Prevnar and Polio. I cancelled the appointment and rescheduled for next week b/c I'm not sure what to do. My ped is supportive of my waiting, but she does not have an alternative "schedule" to give me.<br><br>
I have searched the internet for Dr. Sears alternative schedule but can't find it and I just want some other ideas....any help is greatly appreciated!<br>
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Here's a peek at our schedule, maybe it will get your mind going on what things you want to consider in your family's risk/benefit analysis:<br><br><div style="margin:20px;margin-top:5px;">
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<table border="0" cellpadding="6" cellspacing="0" width="99%"><tr><td class="alt2" style="border:1px inset;">Originally we were just pro vax- kinda by default no research. Then I switched to no vaccination and began researching. I ended up with a selective and delayed schedule.<br><br>
Our schedule is very dependent as well on the international travel we do and will be doing, so much of what we have decided might not apply to many other people. (for example, my husband's business has its head quarters in India and in a couple years, we are scheduled to go there and be there for an entire month. We also have relatives that we visit yearly in central and south america)<br><br>
We decided to skip all together/delay indefinitely:<br><br>
Rotavirus<br>
-too new<br>
-close relative that got rotavirus like symptoms from the vaccine and then got rotavirus again<br>
-we are breastfeeding and stay at home mom<br>
-vaccine sheds too much for our comfort<br><br>
Hep B<br>
-we are leaving this up to the decision of our child if they want it or not.<br><br>
Hep A<br>
-currently skipping; however, the CDC recently changed the recommendations on this for some places we go to/near so we are re looking at the issue.<br><br>
Chicken Pox<br>
-hoping for natural immunity<br>
-will have immunity checked at later date and see what we will do from there<br><br>
Prevnar<br>
-just not convinced about its effectiveness looking at the data<br>
-seems too reactive for us<br>
-not an issue in many areas<br>
-serotype replacement<br>
-breastfeeding and stay at home so don't feel very at risk<br><br>
Flu<br>
-not convinced on effectiveness<br><br><br>
Delayed Schedule:<br>
MMR (starting at 2 years- so daughter has had hers and my son is starting, should have built up immunity by the time we travel again in July- one dose has been shown to be very effective for all three, though we are getting the second as well at 3 or 4)<br>
-did lots of research into supposed connection with autism, both through the Wakefield hypothesis and as part of my research on the 'poor excretor' theory and found the vaccine to be not connected.<br><br>
DtaP (started at 6-8 months instead of 2)<br><br>
Hib<br>
-originally we were not doing this one but we decided to do it because of the fact that we will have our oldest in school, at higher risk, when we also have a newborn infant in the house<br>
-my research has found this to be an effective vaccine that is not very reactive<br><br>
IPV<br>
-got this starting on schedule with my son (well, it was more like 4 mo instead of 2 but pretty much on schedule) and my daughter, therefore, was a little delayed because we hadn't made our choice until this time<br><br><br>
I liked the Dr Sear's The Vaccine Book and How to Raise a Healthy Child in Spite of Your Doctor.<br><br>
I make sure the "follow the trail" when it comes to evidence. So, if a web page quotes a study and gives their spin and a book does the same, I like to follow that trail and read the primary study for myself.</td>
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I don't understand how 2 months is delayed at all? The only vax approved for use before then is Hep B- which you're delaying further.<br><br>
Personally I would not vax before 2 years.<br><br>
Then I would only do ONE vax at a time and separate by at least a month. IMO there's no point in doing them separated by a week.<br><br>
-Angela
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;">I was supposed to bring him in tomorrow (one week after first vax) to get Prevnar and Polio.</div>
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What are your reasons for doing polio? There has been no wild polio in the western hemisphere in decades.<br><br>
-Angela
 

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Carriebft....thanks so much for the info, it was really helpful. I am going to spend more time this week reading and trying to come to a decision.<br><br>
Angela....I was coming here looking for info. Sorry if I'm not using the terms correctly. Not sure when ones considered "delayed". As for polio, you'll see in my post I rescheduled my appointment in an effort to do more research. I just stated that the plan had been to do Polio and Prevnar this week.
 

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I was just confused- sorry! <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/shy.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="innocent"><br><br>
I would stop all vaccinations and take some time to research. You can always do them later. I would research each vaccine and each disease individually and decide which are appropriate for your family situation.<br><br>
-Angela
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;">I was just confused- sorry! <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/shy.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="innocent"><br><br>
I would stop all vaccinations and take some time to research. You can always do them later. I would research each vaccine and each disease individually and decide which are appropriate for your family situation.<br><br>
-Angela</div>
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Thanks....That's what I'm going to do. I am calling the ped back tomorrow and rescheduling for the 4m visit when we planned to go back anyway to check on his reflux. Dh is actually a developmental biologist and next week is Spring break on campus so hopefully we can devote some time to research.<br><br>
I think, from what I've gleaned today, that we'll finish out the DTP and Hib, but spread it out more than 2m btwn doses. I'm thinking no Polio, still no roto, no Heb B, no chicken pox and then doing the separate MMRs starting at 2y. And I'll just breastfeed him until he goes to college so that should help too <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/winky.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="Wink"> Seriously, the fact that I'll BF him until he's done makes me feel so much better about this stuff in general. Dd still nurses sometimes now at 4y and I love b/c it works to get him "innoculated" against all the stuff she's exposed to as well.
 

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I'd read these before making a finakl decision on Hib.<br><a href="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/showpost.php?p=10749969&postcount=3" target="_blank">http://www.mothering.com/discussions...69&postcount=3</a><br><br>
Good luck.<br><br>
I know it's overwhelming at first.
 

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You may want to check out the ingredients in the vaccines. While I was initially a moderate - we thought we were just going to delay until after age 2 - when I saw the list of ingredients in vaccines, then researched each of the diseases, I came to the conclusion that the vaccines are worse than the diseases. You may not come to that conclusion, of course. I don't mean to imply that you will. I just thought the ingredients make for compelling reading:<br><a href="http://www.novaccine.com/specific-vaccines/" target="_blank">http://www.novaccine.com/specific-vaccines/</a><br><br>
We did do Hib, but Angela's posted a lot of info about that one. I'm not sure if we would do it again.<br><br>
Good luck in your research!
 
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