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when the visual is not very clear underwater (lets say a dim room, not very clear water), do you deal with it by touch only? is it more difficult for someone to help? how would a helper deal with it?<br><br>
is it more difficult to deal with than in the "land" birth?
 

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Well I don't believe in checking for cords around the neck...land or water. I don't find it necessary of helpful...women do find it painful.<br><br>
I cannot think of a time where a woman or her partner wanted to catch their own baby that I put my hands in the water.
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;">Well I don't believe in checking for cords around the neck...land or water. I don't find it necessary of helpful...women do find it painful.</div>
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i'm a bit confused. could you elaborate a bit? what do you mean "painful" for a woman?<br><br>
i thought when the head was out, one was to look for the cord around the neck, so if necessary to lift the baby through it.
 

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Dd was born in the water well wrapped <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/lol.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="lol"> Twice around her neck, once around her shoulder. Nothing was done until she was all the way out then we just unwrapped her.<br><br>
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I jsut had a waterbirth and it didn't even dawn on me to check for a cord. DH did ask what to do JIC months ago but when it came down to it neither of us were even thinking about it. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/shrug.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="shrug">
 

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Well in an attended birth, when a mw or dr reaches up behind the babys head to check for cord, they are often right on or close to the clitoris...and this usually results in somE sort of neg response from mom...its not pleasant.<br><br>
Its also not necessary..if the cord is tight, keep babys head close to mom as the body somersaults out.I do not like handling a cord wrap until baby is out. In many hospitals, they will cut the cord before the birth of the body if the cord won't come over the head...thereby suffocating the baby from lack of oxygen.<br><br>
I just think its one of those leftover obstetric rituals that we all assume is best...when its not, IMO.
 

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No, it's not necessary. Further, it stresses the cord, can be unpleasant for the mom and baby, and is a clinical action that interferes with the spontaneity and instinctiveness of a normal second stage.<br><br>
If that doesn't make sense, please keep asking questions. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/smile.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="smile">
 

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everything does make sense. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/smile.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="smile"> i guess i'm imagining a situation where the cord around the neck prevents the baby from sliding out--but this is very rare, right?
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;">everything does make sense. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/smile.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="smile"> i guess i'm imagining a situation where the cord around the neck prevents the baby from sliding out--but this is very rare, right?</div>
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hold the baby's head toward the upper inner thigh and the body will somersault<br>
out-- if a cord is so tight as to be a problem for the baby to emerge then -it is not going to slip over the head if you check for it-- if it is looser than the baby will be born with it or through it<br><br>
I will see if I can find a picture or video on the internet--<br><br>
there is a picture and description at this web site<br><br><a href="http://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/558124_3" target="_blank">http://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/558124_3</a>
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;">hold the baby's head toward the upper inner thigh and the body will somersault<br>
out-- if a cord is so tight as to be a problem for the baby to emerge then -it is not going to slip over the head if you check for it-- if it is looser than the baby will be born with it or through it<br><br>
I will see if I can find a picture or video on the internet--<br><br>
there is a picture and description at this web site<br><br><a href="http://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/558124_3" target="_blank">http://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/558124_3</a></div>
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thanks!<br>
one needs to register for the site, and it doesn't say that it is free <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/redface.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="Embarrassment"><br>
but i'm sure i have this info in some of my books--i'm sure i even read it during my last pregnancy, but have forgotten the details.
 

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I am thinking it is free- I am signed up I guess and I don't pay them.... probably costs in mailings <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/wink1.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="wink1">
 

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My UC waterbirth baby had a nuchal cord. She was born through it and I unwrapped it when I brought her out of the water.
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;">everything does make sense. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/smile.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="smile"> i guess i'm imagining a situation where the cord around the neck prevents the baby from sliding out--but this is very rare, right?</div>
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If the cord is long enough for the head can be born, it's long enough for the body to be born. Like mwherbs said, the baby can be somersaulted out, with head remaining close to the perineum.
 

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yes, and I think we forget that the uterus keeps shrinking up behind the baby - so it isn't like there is a fundal placenta way up high that the baby is stretching. and even then, cords stretch sooooo well. it's remarkable.<br><br>
I agree about the manuever - though in an unattended birth, women would likely do that anyway since it the body will continue to push the baby out and the head will stay close to the mother.
 

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Yeah, it's free. And a great way to get access to lots of reliable/reputable medical studies and such that are otherwise more difficult to find on the Internet.
 

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We had a waterbirth and the cord was around my son's neck. It was unwound by the midwife when his head was born. I was not even aware of it until my husband told me later.
 

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My son had his cord around his neck a couple of times, and we had a beautiful waterbirth at home. His heart tones were perfect, and when he was born, we just somersaulted him under the water to unwind him, then I lifted him onto my chest. It was lovely.
 
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