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My son has had some form of tummy troubles sice he was two weeks old. Before then he rarely cried and had normal poops. At two weeks his poop turned liquidy/mucousy and he got acid reflux. The only thing that has helped the reflux is prilosec.<br><br>
He also became extremely cranky and gassy to the point where even the doctors thought there must be something else wrong. I cut wheat, eggs, soy and milk from my diet and DS was tested for allergies - nothing. We went to a GI specialist and she diagnosed him with anal stenosis (his rectum is too narrow to comfortably pass stool) and off we went to meet with another specialist. This one agreed and we started treatments.<br><br>
Well now the stenosis is 'cured' but he's no better. He had abdominal x-rays done a few days ago and we were told the horrible screaming and straining that he does most of the day is because he has an abnormally large amount of gas in his system and the call that colic. So I was sent home with my screaming in pain baby and told 'he'll grow out of it eventually'.<br><br>
Well that isn't good enough for me - the poor little guy has been in agony since he was two weeks old and it needs to be fixed asap, not just wait for his system to mature as they said. Ive done everything I can think of including cutting out anything that might irritate him and make him extra gassy. Here are my thoughts and wondering if some sort of pro-biotics might help:<br><br>
I was GBS+ for the birth and had several bags of antibiotics pumped into me - could this have affected both of us? I've been unusually gassy since his birth as well.<br><br>
Also, I have a heavy let down, could this have anything to do with it? I've tried pulling off for let down and spraying into a towel till it slows down but that didn't seem to help, I also tried block nursing in case of a hind/fore milk imbalance.<br><br>
I'm really at a loss for what to do and our whole family is in pain from this. DS because of all the gas and tummy pain, DH and I are completely sleep deprived from the screaming, me even more so because I'm home alone with him all day, and all this crankyness is causing us to have silly petty arguments.<br><br>
Could probiotics help my little guy to feel better and be less gassy? Should I take them, or him, or both, and can you advise me on what types/brands?<br><br>
thanks in advance from a very tired and at her witts end mama
 

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I'm trying to think what I would do...given the extent and length of what you've tried and the antibiotic history I think I would have a stool study done--just to see. Maybe given the antibiotics urine too as I think it is better with yeast detection. <a href="http://www.metametrix.com/content/Home" target="_blank">http://www.metametrix.com/content/Home</a> Is what my son's doctor used. It is expensive but insurance should cover it given these symptoms. Bad thing is with this you have to pay up front and then submit it to insurance for reimbursement. If it seems doable soon maybe do that before you start probiotics as that will (hopefully) change the composition. If you can't do it I'd start the probiotics immediately.<br>
When you cut wheat did you cut out all gluten? How long? Gluten takes a long time to clear the system. I would definitely do a test for celiac as well--just in case. Keep wheat/gluten in prior to that test.<br>
Allergy testing at young ages is extremely unreliable so the pulling of foods is a good idea--especially the top offenders.<br>
But yes I'd definitely do a good probiotic. I like culturelle as it has a proven track record. They make baby specific ones too I know. But yes I certainly would--that has been shown to help with colic and pain.<br>
Are you sure his reflux pain is under control? Does he have a good dose? Is he gaining well weight wise? Elevating the mattress head 6 inches really helped my son with reflux pain. We swaddled with miracle blanket and used a tucker sling so he wouldn't slide down the elevation.<br>
You might think about digestive enzymes too (houston enzymes or enzymedica). I think especially given his need for prilosec the enzymes can help with digestion and some of those side effects. If I had it to do over again and know what I know now my reflux med guy would have been on enzymes and probiotics from the start. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/hug.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="hug"> Keep fighting for answers for him. I know how exhausted and stressed you must be. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/hug.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="hug">
 

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Thank you so much for your advice. I'l ask the dr. what he thinks about doing a stool study (that would show if he had a bacterial imbalance in his system?). I'll call Monday but if it doesn't sound like they can do it right away I'll start the probiotics. I looked at the health foods stores near us, and the only company for baby probiotics that they carry is Jarrow Baby.<br><br>
They did test for a wheat allergy and it was negative, even so, I cut out wheat and gluten for a while just in case and I didn't see a difference. Also the GI didn't think it was a food allergy because she said the symptoms didn't quite match up with what would be expected.<br><br>
Should I try to order some of the culturelle online or would the Jarrow be fine?<br><br>
The reflux seems to be under control (no more sour burps/bad taste faces/spitting up) and he is gaining well very well - the dr. wants to try reducing the meds a bit as they think he might have it under control on his own now.<br><br>
I assume the enzymes would be at the health food store also - are those specifially for a baby or for all ages?<br><br>
Also, do you know if there are any potential side effects to taking the probiotics and enzymes? I'm going to run it by the GI to see what she thinks too.<br><br>
Again, thanks so much.
 

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i just want to point out that my son has severe acid reflux since birth and is intolerant to dairy, soy, wheat gluten. all of the doctors told me he did not have food problems, and there are no tests for intolerances. he was screaming night and day even being treated for the reflux-which is a seperate story-I had to contact a doctor in MISSOURI to get my son on a PPI treatment-as all i was getting here was zantac which was worthless.but it wasnt until i put my son on necoate-a medical formula/completely free of milk/soy protein, that i saw 100% improvement. (along with his prevacid). i have learned that doctors really do not know what they are doing with infants. there is no such thing as "colic". "colic" is an excuse for we cant figure out what is wrong with your child. our gi told me that 99% of "colic" is undiagnosed reflux/food allergy/intolerance. and YES there are such things as intolerances, and dont let any doctor tell you differently.<br>
we just started the bifido complex probiotics the other day just becasue i know they are beneficial in cases like these and so far so good. He is 15 months and still on 30 mg of prevacid. good luck! do your own research-dont wait for the doctors to help you-they probably wont. infantreflux.org message boards are great!
 

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Put your ds on a good probiotic and put yourself on one as well. My dd and I are on Natren probiotics... they are expensive, but very good. I take their Healthy Trinity probiotic and my dd takes their Life Start probiotic. (I also take the Life Start so she is getting it through bm too.) You can read about them here.. Natren.com. It is all they do. We have tried other probiotics, but this is the one that works for us. It is important to use an infant-specific probiotic since the flora in a baby's gut is different than that of an adult.<br><br>
We buy them here... <a href="http://www.hollyhillhealth.com/" target="_blank">http://www.hollyhillhealth.com/</a> They do mail order and pack them in cold pack. (They don't ship on Fridays or the end of week so it won't be sitting in some ups warehouse over the weekend.)<br><br>
Also, you might consider eating fresh papaya. It was suggested to me when my first dd was extremely colic-y. There's a natural enzyme in it for digestion.<br><br>
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There is a very good homeopathy (Staphysagria and Silicea) that you could try for gas, colic pain and tummy pain for your baby. It worked for my sister’s son. He was constantly in pain screaming and crying for 6 months since he was born especially after eating. Doctors could not find anything wrong with him so they sent them home. Finally my sister tried that homeopathy and home recipe from herbalist. I do not exactly remember what was in the recipe. I remember that she cooked some seeds and added them to the milk for he son to drink. I can email my sister to ask her about that recipe if you would like me to.<br>
Apple cider vinegar is good for acid reflux. Take 1 coffee sp. when needed.<br>
Hope this will help some.
 

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not really a good idea. apple cider vinegar can also <b>cause</b> acid reflux, if not given a specific kind with a certain percentage of acidity. The kind you find at supermarkets will aggrivate it for sure, but i got mine from a nfs and that was a no go either. I looked this up and found a lot of people actually saying it makes their reflux worse, and when i tried it when i was pregnant it made mine worse too. i wouldnt want to risk that with a baby. just my 2 cents.
 

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<img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/img/vbsmilies/smilies/dizzy.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="Dizzy">: I red it in Natural Cures "They" Don't Want You To Know About by Kevin Trudeau. Also there is another book "Apple cider vinegar" by Patricia. I use it for my children and it works. Everybody is different so use common sence and do research before you take anything.<img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/redface.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="Embarrassment"><br><br><br><br><div style="margin:20px;margin-top:5px;">
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<div style="font-style:italic;">not really a good idea. apple cider vinegar can also <b>cause</b> acid reflux, if not given a specific kind with a certain percentage of acidity. The kind you find at supermarkets will aggrivate it for sure, but i got mine from a nfs and that was a no go either. I looked this up and found a lot of people actually saying it makes their reflux worse, and when i tried it when i was pregnant it made mine worse too. i wouldnt want to risk that with a baby. just my 2 cents.</div>
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