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Has anyone seen any mainstream news coverage of this as yet? The lawsuit against the rule did make the mainstream news so it seems likely that this story will too.
 

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NY SUPREME COURT BLOCKS NYC MANDATORY FLU VACCINATION
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NY SUPREME COURT BLOCKS NYC MANDATORY FLU VACCINATION

A New York Court issued a decision today overturning a Bloomberg-era regulation requiring all children age 6-months through 59 months to obtain a flu shot in order to attend pre-schools, daycare centers or Head Start programs regulated by the City of New York. The rule was set to go into effect in January 1, 2016.

Aaron Siri, attorney for the families who sued the city and the families themselves will hold a press conference at 60 Centre Street, in Manhattan at 11 am on Thursday, December 17, 2015.

Link to the Court's decision:

https://iapps.courts.state.ny.us/fbem/DocumentDisplayServl...
 

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To be accurate, this wasn't a decision based on any kind of unconstitutionality of vaccine mandates (so this is not precedent setting for SB277). It was based on the argument that vaccine mandates have to come from the state and not the city. It wasn't really a vaccine issue so much as it was a "the city doesn't have the authority to mandate this because state law says the state does" issue. It honestly does not have anything to do with vaccine refusal rights, but of who has the right to mandate them for schools and daycares (city vs state).
 

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To be accurate, this wasn't a decision based on any kind of unconstitutionality of vaccine mandates (so this is not precedent setting for SB277). It was based on the argument that vaccine mandates have to come from the state and not the city. It wasn't really a vaccine issue so much as it was a "the city doesn't have the authority to mandate this because state law says the state does" issue. It honestly does not have anything to do with vaccine refusal rights, but of who has the right to mandate them for schools and daycares (city vs state).
Thanks DORIT :thumb
 

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To be accurate, this wasn't a decision based on any kind of unconstitutionality of vaccine mandates (so this is not precedent setting for SB277). It was based on the argument that vaccine mandates have to come from the state and not the city. It wasn't really a vaccine issue so much as it was a "the city doesn't have the authority to mandate this because state law says the state does" issue. It honestly does not have anything to do with vaccine refusal rights, but of who has the right to mandate them for schools and daycares (city vs state).
Wasn't this requirement going to occur if nobody spoke up about it, and it would have been mandated if everyone keep quiet? Thankfully smart people didn't keep quiet, complained about it and their feelings how absurd it is. I'd say it's a win for those parents speaking up and refusing to put up with BS laws and requirements.

I also found this interesting from the NY times article in the OP:

At a meeting in early December between health officials and religious-school administrators, for example, some school leaders reported significant resistance from parents against the new regulation, in part because the parents said their children’s doctors were telling them the vaccine was unnecessary
Doctors are saying the vaccine is unnecessary.
 

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Wasn't this requirement going to occur if nobody spoke up about it, and it would have been mandated if everyone keep quiet? Thankfully smart people didn't keep quiet, complained about it and their feelings how absurd it is. I'd say it's a win for those parents speaking up and refusing to put up with BS laws and requirements.

I also found this interesting from the NY times article in the OP:
Well now the state can begin the process to mandate them if they want...

As I said, this ruling had nothing to do with parental rights (that's why this didn't apply to any other vaccines which are mandated through the state). The city wanted the flu vaccine to be mandated along with the others since the vaccines currently mandated by the state does not include the flu vaccine. The ruling simply said it was beyond the reach of the city to do so. The state can still mandate them.
 

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Meh. :shrug Thanks for the cross-forum eavesdropping, but I'm still optimistic in noting that consideration was carefully taken for these parents' psychosocial circumstances stemming from vaccine blackmail--er, school-based mandates. I would hope that with your alleged and avowed support of vaccine choice, Tea, that you'd agree with me.

As for SB277, there are almost 200 licensed attorneys ready to pounce on it. Time will tell.
 

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Looks like Dorit has weighed in on the issue. This is the first time I am aware of her responding to the ruling (hours after I wrote my response btw), despite what PPs suggested.

So for those interested, here it is:
 

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Meh. :shrug Thanks for the cross-forum eavesdropping, but I'm still optimistic in noting that consideration was carefully taken for these parents' psychosocial circumstances stemming from vaccine blackmail--er, school-based mandates. I would hope that with your alleged and avowed support of vaccine choice, Tea, that you'd agree with me.

As for SB277, there are almost 200 licensed attorneys ready to pounce on it. Time will tell.
Thanks for posting the link. I hadn't seen it before. I wish I had time to write to each of those professionals to thank them for their support of informed consent for themselves & others.

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This is a significant win for the parents in NYC and New York State, just because it reins in health department over-reach.

Legislators are a teensy bit harder to manipulate than health departments, who at this point are mostly in "vaccinate anything that moves with any vaccine that the CDC recommends" mode. It cheers me up faintly to know that drug companies are still going to have to shell out the lobbying money to legislators in some states to get their vaccine on the schedule.
 

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Looks like Dorit has weighed in on the issue. This is the first time I am aware of her responding to the ruling (hours after I wrote my response btw), despite what PPs suggested.

So for those interested, here it is:
Since you two are so friendly didn't she give up the heads-up?
 

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Looks like Dorit has weighed in on the issue. This is the first time I am aware of her responding to the ruling (hours after I wrote my response btw), despite what PPs suggested.

So for those interested, here it is:
Copyright infringement?

You did not source the screenshot- care to do so? Please provide the link to this quote(screenshot) you posted.
 
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