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I'm sure this may have been asked before, but I can't search CPS (it's too short a word?). Some relatives are being looked into by CPS in IL (not for vaxing) for legitamate reasons (abandonment). However as much as I hope this wakes this couple up, there is a slim possibility that someday CPS may look at me and dh for temporary placement of their kids. Being that they may one day check us out, I need to know how to cover my Ar$e. My dh and I don't vax and my ds has never seen a Dr. (born at home). I know that for school you don't have to belong to any "recognized church or organization" to have a religious exemption. (We are church members, but it's not known for being anti-vax). On the IL CPS website, I saw this...<br><br>
"Any standards involving physical examinations, immunization, or medical<br>
treatment shall include appropriate exemptions:<br>
• for children whose parents object thereto on the grounds that<br>
they conflict with the tenets and practices of a <span style="color:#FF0000;">recognized<br>
church or religious organization</span>, of which the parent is an<br>
adherent or member..."<br><br>
Can they adhere to a different standard or is the regular "We don't vax due to conflicts with our religious practices" enough?<br><br>
Also, I was thinking of taking ds to have a "well-baby" at 6 months (We see a FP in a small town and when I've brought my dd in for colds, they've never asked about vaxes, she's never had a well-baby visit, though). Should I tell them when I make the appointment that we don't vax or should I just wait until that day and tell them "By the way" when we go for the visit?? I'm not afraid at all of VPD's, but CPS gives me bad dreams. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/lol.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="lol">
 

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This fear is *exactly* why we do the WBVs. To have some third party to verify that our children are healthy, well-cared for and attended. I am not one that goes into a doctors office on the defensive, so I would wait until we got to the office and were in the room before I said...."No Vax". If you do it there, after your child is being seen, I believe it's more difficult for the doc to do anything. Especially if you say that you have a religious opposition. Plus then that is on the record.<br><br>
I think even having visited a chiro counts for care.<br><br>
Good luck.
 

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Not sure where you are, but when I lived in IL we had a non-vax friedly doc...he's in the North Suburbs. You can also check in the tribal area here at MDC to see if there are some near you.<br><br>
With CPS, I think that stating your exepmtion should suffice, I'd have it formally written up.
 

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<a href="http://www.vaccineawareness.org/" target="_blank">http://www.vaccineawareness.org/</a> This org. may be able to help <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/smile.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="smile">
 

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The clinic we go to is in Marshall, IL (east-central IL), but we are about to move to Mattoon.
 

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Here's a link you might find useful. Along with other items, it talks about S.B. 1305, a law that was passed in 2001. It excludes an exempted child from being considered by the DCFS as "neglected":<br><br>
From <a href="http://www.geocities.com/fishstep/ILVaccineLaw.html#Restriction" target="_blank">Illinois Laws and Rules Intertwining Schools and Vaccinations</a><br><br><span style="color:#0000FF;">...Gov. Ryan signed into law SB 1305, which removes the Department of Children and Family Services' regulation of medical neglect for parents who choose to delay vaccination, fail or refuse to vaccinate their children based on medical or religious exemptions....With SB 1305, doctors are free to advocate different vaccination schedules than recommended by medical societies for developmental issues or minor illnesses without writing a medical exemption....[From the amendment:] "A child shall not be considered neglected or abused for the sole reason that the child's parent or other person responsible for the child's welfare failed to vaccinate, delayed vaccination, or refused vaccination for the child due to a waiver on religious or medical grounds as permitted by the law."...</span>
 

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Thank you, PP. That was exactly what I was going to write. CPS cannot do anything to you based solely on vaccination status. But I WOULD take your children to WBV's, just to have a paper record of the fact that someone has seen your kids and thinks they are in good health and well taken care of, IF you are worried about any CPS investigation for future custody of those kids. It's just a good idea, in my opinion.
 
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