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My DSS was born via c-section after 56 hours of back labor, and though his mother was told she was "too small", I know that DSS was posterior and she just didn't have the energy to push him out. This really worries DH because he thinks I'm also going to have a big posterior baby, so I've been reading a lot about avoiding posterior babies by adopting good posture throughout pregnancy (spinning babies and whatnot).<br><br>
What I find *most* difficult is getting rid of the habit of crossing my legs. I work in an office, meaning I'm sitting on a computer chair 8.5 hours a day, and the futon we have at home doesn't exactly encourage good posture either. I've heard that having your knees below your hip level, keeping a straight back, or sitting in the cobbler's pose (or sleeping on your left side with a pillow to support the right leg), can help the baby get into an anterior position right off the bat. But damnit, every time I get up and sit back down again, my left leg automatically moves to cross over my right. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/irked.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="irked">:<br>
I honestly remember when it started: I was attending an all-girl private Catholic school when I was 13, and they TAUGHT us that good girls don't sit with their legs uncrossed, so we were shown how to cross demurely and we were punished if we didn't. I don't remember having such bad posture before learning to cross my legs (I was a ballet dancer for godsake!), but apparently we all looked too boyish when we sat...<br><br>
Years later, I'm having a heck of a time getting rid of that habit...anyone else?
 

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funny, I thought this was going to be about crossing your leggs when you cough. If I don't keep doing my kegels this is something I might have to do in a few months.<img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/redface.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="Embarrassment">
 

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Well, as I read this, my legs are crossed! I understand, it's a habit. One thing you can do, which I did for my last baby and am already doing for this one... I sat on a birth ball/exercise ball ALL THE TIME. I had one at work, and one at home. It's tough to cross your legs on that... you'll end up rolling off! Also, if you have it inflated properly, your hips will be above your knees. I had a 7lb 5oz baby, I was 105lb 5'2" before I got pregnant, and the whole last 2 or 3 months of pregnancy, he was in optimal position (I know that now thanks to spinningbabies.com) for birth. I pushed for 20 minutes with him. I have a very small frame, and he never got hung up anywhere. I think the ball really helped me out for opening my pelvis and giving him lots of room to get into position. Plus, the people at work got such a kick out of my ball. I left it at work but switched to a chair after I came back from maternity leave. They got it back out for me and reinflated it! They just enjoy trying to play kick ball with it, and seeing me bounce around on it!<br>
Also, should've mentioned that your DH's ex having a posterior baby has no bearing on whether or not you will. I'm sure it's something he's worried about, but you two could be completely different. My mom (who is the same size as me and who I tend to take after in every aspect) was in labor with me for a long time, and I wouldn't come down at all (not sure if I was posterior, etc), and they did a c/s to get me out. I was only 6lb 9oz! So I was assuming I would never be able to do it vaginally, but I sure did! I'm sure just knowing about things like this will help you avoid issues with them when the time comes!
 

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I don't have any issues about crossing my legs (except when I cough, lol). My son was posterior and it was because I spent the last two months of my pregnancy in a recliner. Um, duh! Posterior baby heaven! But it was 113 degrees out for 3 weeks in San Jose, Cali where I lived during the rolling black outs. So any position that was comfortable in that heat was where I was at!!<br>
Maybe you could try sitting on a birth ball at home instead of the futon.
 

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I guess DH is worried because in his family, babies are a bit big (he was practically 9 pounds) and DSS was almost 9 pounds, despite his mom being smaller than me (she's 5'1, probably 100 pounds before being p/g). So he automatically assumes I'm having a big baby (whereas in my family, babies are small, and I was a small one too...barely 6 pounds).<br><br>
But yeah, I'm DEFINITELY going to get a bigger exercise ball (mine's too small for the proper hip to knee ratio thing). Dunno if my boss will allow me to sit on one at work (it's a bank, they're ...*conservative*)...
 

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hehehe....I have the same habit, and have to tell myself repeatedly to stop doing it. The birth ball is a great option, and there's even a chair type holder for it. Look at Giam yoga products. How about sitting in easy pose when on the futon? With a pillow behind your back? Old habits die hard!<img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/orngtongue.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="Stick Out Tongue">
 

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Wow, I'd never heard that - does poor posture really mean you're more likely to have a posterior baby? That's a good reason as any to pay attention to my posture, especially when I'm on the computer. Unfortunately, my computer chair doesn't adjust in height anymore and it's too tall, resulting in me often putting up my feet and having really poor posture. I know it's bad, I'll really try to become more aware of when I'm sitting like that!
 

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sunmama,...actually if I could sit in an easy pose or a cobbler's pose at work, I'd be in heaven. I'm *very* open sideways (now if only my hamstrings were so loose!), so when I sit in the cobbler's pose, my knees drop right to the floor; I can even fold my torso over my legs completely. It just doesn't work sitting on my computer chair, with my work shoes and pants though!<br><br>
As for home, I think I'm going to have to pull out a mat and sit on the floor, b/c the futon tilts backwards so much that it makes any pose uncomfortable. It's a very "slouchy" couch!
 

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The birth ball is a great suggestion.<br><br>
Honestly, even though I followed a lot of the advice on Spinning Babies with my last pregnancy, and I am being even more careful earlier with this pregnancy because it's twins, I still crossed my legs last time and do a bit this time (not that it's easy anymore <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/lol.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="lol"><img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/smile.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="smile">. My DS was positioned perfectly, though. I spent a lot of time on an exercise ball or on my knees in front of the sofa leaning over with a book on the sofa to read, last pregnancy. I also did a lot of visualization while I took long walks. I'm not sure what worked or didn't, or if any of it made a difference, but he was positioned perfectly and I had a pain-free 8 hour labor with absolutely no pre-labor (I didn't even really feel BH). Some of that was pure luck, I'm sure <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/smile.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="smile">
 

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Correct me if I am wrong.....babies of Asian ancestry tend to be on the smaller size? Compared to Caucasian babies?<br><br>
I have to check out the spinning babies website. Ds was posterior and brow presenting (leading to my c/s) I want to prevent that.
 

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Well, I'm not going to be much help b/c I'm a hopeless leg crosser... but if you need any more motivation, sitting with your legs crossed, especially during pregnancy, can cause NASTY varicose veins, even extending into your labial regions... <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/grossedout.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="gross"><br><br>
While I never had any labial problems... I did get varicose veins so badly during my pregnancy with Audrey that I had to have surgery after I had Nora... not cosmetic surgery, but b/c the veins were starting to retain and throw clots. Ugh. It hurt.<br><br>
The vascular surgeon who operated on my legs (the chief of vascular surgery at Duke University) told me that it was probably caused by a combination of the fact that I had been a long-distance runner before I had children and of the fact that I crossed my legs too often. She also said that she sees a lot of dancers as well, with the deeper, more dangerous varicosities.<br><br>
So, I finally pretty much stopped crossing my legs... b/c the incision from the surgery still hurts and it's located right at the spot where your knee would rest on the opposite leg. I hope you can find an easier solution <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/thumb.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="thumbs up">, but I'm stubborn. Had to learn the hard way...........
 

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Eek! THAT might stop me! I didn't have any problems with that my first pregnancy, but I'm not going to risk it. That is good motivation!<br><br><div style="margin:20px;margin-top:5px;">
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<div style="font-style:italic;">Well, I'm not going to be much help b/c I'm a hopeless leg crosser... but if you need any more motivation, sitting with your legs crossed, especially during pregnancy, can cause NASTY varicose veins, even extending into your labial regions... <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/grossedout.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="gross"><br><br>
While I never had any labial problems... I did get varicose veins so badly during my pregnancy with Audrey that I had to have surgery after I had Nora... not cosmetic surgery, but b/c the veins were starting to retain and throw clots. Ugh. It hurt.<br><br>
The vascular surgeon who operated on my legs (the chief of vascular surgery at Duke University) told me that it was probably caused by a combination of the fact that I had been a long-distance runner before I had children and of the fact that I crossed my legs too often. She also said that she sees a lot of dancers as well, with the deeper, more dangerous varicosities.<br><br>
So, I finally pretty much stopped crossing my legs... b/c the incision from the surgery still hurts and it's located right at the spot where your knee would rest on the opposite leg. I hope you can find an easier solution <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/thumb.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="thumbs up">, but I'm stubborn. Had to learn the hard way...........</div>
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Right now I just have my ankles crossed. Baby gets squished and annoyed when I try to cross my legs.<br><br>
Do you have any straight-backed dining room chairs you can relegate to the living room for a little while? Or is getting an exercise ball an option? Not only can you sit on it, but you could also potentially use it during labor. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/smile.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="smile"><br><br>
Although fwiw, I didn't really concentrate on sitting completely properly and such until my last month or so. Because before then, kiddo will whip around wherever it wants (one time my youngest did his best alien impression and scared the wits out of my mom - he was probably 8lbs at that point, and did a painful full-body roll/spin in my poor belly). And heck, I crossed my legs and reclined and all that all the time in my first pregnancy, up until three days before I had him. He was head down and ready to roll. So anyway, I wouldn't stress out about it until later on.<br><br>
As for an exercise ball at work... maybe if you can slap the bank's logo all over it or something? <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/winky.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="Wink">
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;">As for an exercise ball at work... maybe if you can slap the bank's logo all over it or something? <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/winky.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="Wink"></div>
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That's an idea <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/lol.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="lol"> ...I could start marketing them to all those overweight bankers who have TERRIBLE posture. I can just see a bunch of suits from NYC trying to figure out why the Montreal bankers are running around trying to sit properly on their balance balls, or better yet *falling* off their balance balls in the middle of conference calls to billion-dollar clients <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/orngbiggrin.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="orange big grin">
 

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I gave birth to a malpositioned babe with my first and had utterly excruciatingly painful back labor, as well as narrowly escaping a C-section. He was also a big baby (8 lbs. 9oz. with a 14.75" head) and I am fairly small - 5'5", 125.<br><br>
My only piece of advice to you is the one thing that helped me have a properly positioned babe and a normal second birth - get chiropractic care <i>now</i>, and for the rest of your pregnancy - preferably from one who specializes in pregnant women. It will make all the difference in the world.<br><br>
I gave birth to a properly positioned babe last time that was 10 lbs. 2 oz. with a 15.25" head and it was just fine.<br><br>
Also, don't labor on your back in the lithotomy position, especially in the pushing phase with an OP baby.<br><br>
Good luck!
 

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If you can still cross your legs at 7.5 months pregnant, I'll be surprised. My first was posterior and my second wasn't. Don't know that I did much differently, but I also had wretched sciatica with the first but not the second.<br><br>
Like the PP said, I don't cross my legs any more because it encourages varicose veins - something my mom had BAD and had to get stripped (it's as awful as it sounds). So I sit knees together, ankles crossed and that's about it. Spinningbabies is a great tool. I crawled around on hands and knees a lot before DS was born (helpful to have a child/animal to crawl after) and he came out fine. So I think it did help.
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;">I guess DH is worried because in his family, babies are a bit big (he was practically 9 pounds) and DSS was almost 9 pounds,</div>
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That's not big!!!<br><br><div style="margin:20px;margin-top:5px;">
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<div style="font-style:italic;">Wow, I'd never heard that - does poor posture really mean you're more likely to have a posterior baby?</div>
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Any kind of reclining position, which is what your pelvis does when you cross your legs, encourages the baby to be posterior.
 

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We just had a big discussion about this at API last night. The leader is a doula so she had great info and resources. I had never known this about posture, but she said it can do wonders if you start sitting correctly right now. Good info!
 

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I was able to cross my legs the day I went into labor. I tried not to do it all the time, but it was a habit...<br><br><div style="margin:20px;margin-top:5px;">
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<div style="font-style:italic;">If you can still cross your legs at 7.5 months pregnant, I'll be surprised. My first was posterior and my second wasn't. Don't know that I did much differently, but I also had wretched sciatica with the first but not the second.<br><br>
Like the PP said, I don't cross my legs any more because it encourages varicose veins - something my mom had BAD and had to get stripped (it's as awful as it sounds). So I sit knees together, ankles crossed and that's about it. Spinningbabies is a great tool. I crawled around on hands and knees a lot before DS was born (helpful to have a child/animal to crawl after) and he came out fine. So I think it did help.</div>
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I certainly couldn't, not for months before my dds birth! I remember getting dirty looks on the subway--pregnant or not, people thought I was hogging the seats. Not only could I not cross my legs, but I couldn't even keep my knees together! <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/smile.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="smile"><br><br>
Thanks for this thread, great reminders!
 
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